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Aaron Glenn was hired by the Saints. He was said to be one of the guys we wanted to keep. He was our assistant secondary coach last season.

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Shouldn't our new coach determine who we want to keep and who we want to dump? It's his staff to build. I hope he cleans house and dumps them ALL.


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I definitely think he should try to retain good coaches, just because they are from the previous regime doesn't mean there is something better out there. I think they should take a long look at keeping Defillipo.

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who wanted to keep Glenn?

I suppose if Flip impresses Jackson, that could work. Flip is a young guy that can really learn from Jackson. He might find it's a great stepping stone. That could actually work out well for Jackson and Flip.

Can't see any way that O'Neil remains here. he'll end up with Pettine wherever Marrone ends up. that may include the unemployment line.

I like Tabor, hope they retain him.

I also like Montgomery but don't know if he'll fit for Jackson.

All reports I've read are saying that Jackson won't want Manziel.. Who could blame him for that.

One of them said Goff is a sure fire selection in the draft? Dunno.

The one thing I'm most happy about (and I can't tell you why) is that we were VERY quick to get our coach and by all outward appearances, he was the guy we wanted all along.

I read that Sashi Brown was instrumental in "closing the deal" with jackson. (I know I read it, but I'll be darned if I remember where, so much info coming out)


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It has been reported that Hue will call his own plays. I doubt that Flip will want to work under those restrictions ... but I would be happy if he would stay. I also hope that we keep our QB coach. I think that he did a great job getting 3 different QBs ready to play.


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Originally Posted By: Spiritbro77
Shouldn't our new coach determine who we want to keep and who we want to dump? It's his staff to build. I hope he cleans house and dumps them ALL.




No doubt it is his staff to hire. I don't hope he dumps them all and don't really hope he keeps all or some. My hope is he brings in guys he can work with and as a team they get results.


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I hope we get a DC that understands the players on this roster that are good. There are a few, believe it or not. O'Neil was a joke, and from what players have said recently, had no respect for him.

Most thought our defense was going to be a plus, even the national media. While watching the games this year, it was evident to me that what O'neil was trying to do was assinine. He preached about playing to the players strengths, and did the opposite. He, IMO, was the biggest reason this team failed this year.

Jackson is well liked around the league, I hope he can attract someone with a proven scheme that can use the talents of some of our better players. I would also love to ditch the 3-4. It seems everytime we run it we are horrible.


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(I know I read it, but I'll be darned if I remember where, so much info coming out)


That's just your age showing! Trust me, I know from personal experience... rofl


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It is probably unrealistic, but I'd love Jim Schwartz as the defensive coordinator. The last time he took over a Mike Pettine defense, he turned it into one of the best in the league.

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Another good DC would be Greg Manusky.

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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
It has been reported that Hue will call his own plays. I doubt that Flip will want to work under those restrictions ... but I would be happy if he would stay. I also hope that we keep our QB coach. I think that he did a great job getting 3 different QBs ready to play.
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In his introductory presser, Hue said he loves calling plays but that depending on who he hires as his OC, it might change and he'd move out of the way.

So if he wants Flip and Flip wants to call plays, I don't think that would be a stumbling block.


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(I know I read it, but I'll be darned if I remember where, so much info coming out)


That's just your age showing! Trust me, I know from personal experience... rofl


Yep,, I'm suffering from CRS.. Can't remember stuff.....LOL


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It has been reported that Hue will call his own plays. I doubt that Flip will want to work under those restrictions ... but I would be happy if he would stay. I also hope that we keep our QB coach. I think that he did a great job getting 3 different QBs ready to play.
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In his introductory presser, Hue said he loves calling plays but that depending on who he hires as his OC, it might change and he'd move out of the way.

So if he wants Flip and Flip wants to call plays, I don't think that would be a stumbling block.


You're right. I heard it wrong the 1st time around.


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I hope we get a DC that understands the players on this roster that are good. There are a few, believe it or not. O'Neil was a joke, and from what players have said recently, had no respect for him.

Most thought our defense was going to be a plus, even the national media. While watching the games this year, it was evident to me that what O'neil was trying to do was assinine. He preached about playing to the players strengths, and did the opposite. He, IMO, was the biggest reason this team failed this year.

Jackson is well liked around the league, I hope he can attract someone with a proven scheme that can use the talents of some of our better players. I would also love to ditch the 3-4. It seems everytime we run it we are horrible.


LOL,, he said in his presser yesterday that he got 142 texts from coaches.. many asking him to get them into Cleveland.

That was a pretty informative presser. Obviously he can't answer some questions yet.. Like who he wants to keep on staff or as players..


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... he said in his presser yesterday that he got 142 texts from coaches.. many asking him to get them into Cleveland


I've not listened to the presser yet, but I like hearing that above line. Hopefully it's a tough decision for Hue and has to select from a group of very qualified coordinators and etc.

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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
It has been reported that Hue will call his own plays. I doubt that Flip will want to work under those restrictions ... but I would be happy if he would stay. I also hope that we keep our QB coach. I think that he did a great job getting 3 different QBs ready to play.
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In his introductory presser, Hue said he loves calling plays but that depending on who he hires as his OC, it might change and he'd move out of the way.

So if he wants Flip and Flip wants to call plays, I don't think that would be a stumbling block.


I want Hue Jackson calling plays.

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... he said in his presser yesterday that he got 142 texts from coaches.. many asking him to get them into Cleveland


I've not listened to the presser yet, but I like hearing that above line. Hopefully it's a tough decision for Hue and has to select from a group of very qualified coordinators and etc.


On top of that he emphasized that it wasn't just about getting good coaches, it was important to get the RIGHT coaches.


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j/c:

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#Browns QB coach Kevin O'Connell isn't being retained>Hue Jackson's bringing his own guy..KOC would be a good fit for NFL or college staffs.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/687682925924450304


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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#Browns QB coach Kevin O'Connell isn't being retained>Hue Jackson's bringing his own guy..KOC would be a good fit for NFL or college staffs.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/687682925924450304


O'Connell is one of the guys I was hoping we'd keep. Hue Jack is an offensive guy though, he probably has specific guys in mind to do what he wants to do. I'd guess that very few of our current guys on that side of the ball will survive.

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#Browns QB coach Kevin O'Connell isn't being retained>Hue Jackson's bringing his own guy..KOC would be a good fit for NFL or college staffs.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/687682925924450304


O'Connell is one of the guys I was hoping we'd keep. Hue Jack is an offensive guy though, he probably has specific guys in mind to do what he wants to do. I'd guess that very few of our current guys on that side of the ball will survive.


I'd also like to add that O'Connell was the closest to Manziel on our staff. He trained with George Whitfield prior to the draft.

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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#Browns QB coach Kevin O'Connell isn't being retained>Hue Jackson's bringing his own guy..KOC would be a good fit for NFL or college staffs.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/687682925924450304


I find this....disappointing, I guess.


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#Browns QB coach Kevin O'Connell isn't being retained>Hue Jackson's bringing his own guy..KOC would be a good fit for NFL or college staffs.


https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/687682925924450304


I find this....disappointing, I guess.


Same here. But HueJack probably has a certain guy in mind.

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Why have you deviated from Coach Bootyskins to Hue Jack?


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Why have you deviated from Coach Bootyskins to Hue Jack?


It depends on how I feel. Both are pretty good.

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Browns HC Hue Jackson targeting Tennessee's Ray Horton as his DC, but uncertain whether Titans will grant permission to leave, per source.


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/687694592569962497

Wow.

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Browns HC Hue Jackson targeting Tennessee's Ray Horton as his DC, but uncertain whether Titans will grant permission to leave, per source.


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter


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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
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Browns HC Hue Jackson targeting Tennessee's Ray Horton as his DC, but uncertain whether Titans will grant permission to leave, per source.


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter


Beat you to it.

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Browns HC Hue Jackson targeting Tennessee's Ray Horton as his DC, but uncertain whether Titans will grant permission to leave, per source.


https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter


Beat you to it.


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Crossing fingers for a 4-3 system. frekaing hate the 3-4.

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Bring back Horton!

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Crossing fingers for a 4-3 system. frekaing hate the 3-4.


I like whatever is successful. Both are successful given the right combination of players and coaches.

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Horton? Really? How was the Titans D this year? PASS PLEASE!

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I'm feeling a little ambivalent about Horton. I'd welcome him back, for sure, but it's not like our defense was setting the world on fire in 2013.

We had a good ranking in yards per game (9th), but we were 23rd in the much more important Points per Game.

Yes, this was the season of Chud, and the team laid down and quit in those last seven games, but, it wasn't exactly thumping opponents before then... and neither were the Titans this year.


Browns is the Browns

... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.

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Horton? Really? How was the Titans D this year? PASS PLEASE!


Horton would not be my first choice, but he is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than O'Neil. Not even close.

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A ham sandwich is better than O'Neil. Add a slice of cheese and it's better than Horton.

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I remember a lot of posters were upset w/Horton's defense as the season wore on. Many got sick of him talking so much and said he was making excuses.

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I have read that Horton rode Mingo pretty hard his rookie season. This is not in full detail, but I think it shows a little bit of it.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/12/cleveland_browns_dc_ray_horton.html

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yes, we we're 9th in yards per game

and 27th in points per game(31.19)

but, we we're 7th in yards per rush at 3.9

18th in rush yards per game

we were also 8th in passing yards per game

20th in INT(14)

16th in sacks(40)

do you even wanna see the nastiness of 2015?

nah? imma show it anyway, just so we all can throw up in our mouths.

27th in yards per game


19th in points per game(30.08)

26th in yards per rush(4.5)

30th in rush yards per game

22nd in pass yards per game

21st in INT (11)

28th in sacks (29)

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all take a ray horton defense everyday of the week over a pettine defense. this ain't even close bro. not remotely.


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It has been reported that Hue will call his own plays. I doubt that Flip will want to work under those restrictions ... but I would be happy if he would stay. I also hope that we keep our QB coach. I think that he did a great job getting 3 different QBs ready to play.
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In his introductory presser, Hue said he loves calling plays but that depending on who he hires as his OC, it might change and he'd move out of the way.

So if he wants Flip and Flip wants to call plays, I don't think that would be a stumbling block.


I want Hue Jackson calling plays.


That would be great, but what if he gets a solid/proven OC.. would that change your mind. It's a tough job being a HC and then calling the plays also.


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