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I am having a hard time really deciding which route we need to go for the QB position. Part of me says McCown didn't have that bad of a year (8 games) but he really did play well with little to no running game as another threat. So with that part of me says lets build around McCown for at least this draft and see how the year goes. Maybe draft a few WR's who can add to a threat of Barnidge. I do like Duke a lot and I think Hue can find ways to make him dangerous from the back field or in the slot. He has the potential to make some big plays happen. Then later on in the draft we take a QB who can serve as a back up or if we find someone with promise a potential future investment. Who knows what Josh Gordon will do it would be nice to have his talent back but I know we aren't that lucky! So if we could draft a game changer at the WR spot it would be nice to have. I'm not entirely sure we get that at the 2 so maybe we trade down to pick someone up and an additional pick because we all know we need a lot. The other route obviously would be to draft a QB more than likely at the 2 just to be safe and not lose them. I don't know just thinking out loud here anyone have any thoughts?

Some QB choices off the top of my head:

A) Stand pat. Stick with McCown, Davis, and Shaw.

B) Draft someone with the second overall pick (Goff, Lynch, and Wentz seem to be most likely in this scenario).

C) Draft someone later in the draft (there are many names being discussed in the draft forum).

D) Sign a free agent QB (here is a list of free agent QBs: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/quarterback/).

E) Trade for a QB (I am not really sure who would be available, but there doesn't seem to be many appealing options).

A couple of possibilities. Whether they are available, what they would cost and are they worth it is discussion for another day. This list is by no means all inclusive. See the link the a complete list but I pulled out some names that I recognized as potentially being available.

Aj McCarron
Brett Hundley
Garoppolo
Glennon
Cutler
Garrtt Grayson
Landry Jones
Sean Mannion
Ej Manuel
Aaron Murray
Ryan Nassib
Bryce Petty
Mark Sanchez
Scott Tolzien
Keith Wenning

I guess Peyton Manning might be available in trade if the Broncos go all in with Osweiler for next season.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/players/_/position/qb

Oof. That is quite the list.

(I crossed off Cutler because the Bears GM came out and said that they will be building around him and that he is not available.)

I see nobody on that list I would choose over McCown. Draft a guy you think might be the long term starter and roll with McCown.

I LIKE OPTION C

I hadn't heard that. I almost didn't include any starters but Cutler had been rumored to be on the edge there for a couple years.

The only two I would consider on this list are AJ and Garoppolo. Personally, I'd kinda like to keep McCowan and look at someone like Cordell Stewart who, we might be able to get in the 3rd.

How about we trade Manziel to Dallas for Kellen Moore?

stop it.

I would trade Manziel for a conditional future 7th round pick, just to get his future guarantees off the books.

Stick with McCown for a year or 2 to play and mentor new young QB.

Draft Joey Bosa #2 overall.

Draft Best WR available at #32

Trade up into middle f the 2nd round and draft Christain Hackenburg to be futrue QB.

You had me until Hackenburg.

is there any chance some of the top QB's drop in the draft?

i think there is a good chance one drops to the #2 pick.....

Just draft Jared Goff. Its not rocket science take the best QB prospect.

Do you mean Cardale Jones? If so, I have been thinking about that myself. He is the football version of Nuke LaLoosh (sp?), million dollar arm with a ten cent head. If he can figure out the mental side, he could be a stud. I'm not sure he can.

I wonder how many people ............ahhhh.......nevermind.

jc

There is nothing wrong with McCown. Draft a QB and let McCown play, it was a good plan originally, too Manziel is a knucklehead.

Y are yall wanting to sell (trade) Manziel for pennies? bump that. We spent a 1st round pick on him, and he showed some progress on the field.

If I can't get a 2nd for him, i'm keeping him on the team. #rgkneetreatment

Because he is a massive distraction, and that is NEVER good for a team. He lacks leadership abilities. Read what Joe Thomas said about Manziel. That convinced me that it's time for him to go.

I am for cutting him. It's not worth keeping him around for a late round draft pick.

Until he gets drafted #1 by whomever Tennessee trades their pick to.

he was a big part of the reason we could not run th ball. his dink crap that puts nice stats up was like playing in the redzone the whole time.... if he is starting well... 1 win 7 loss... enough said

I say forget drafting and sitting the QB, just play the dude who ever it is! I want my future QB getting all the reps possible. Cut McCown (Sorry McCown) he isn't our future and he only wastes our time and potential draft choices.

Then we take Bosa... I can live with that

Tenn has Mariotta.

What could go wrong with taking another QB in the first round?

I don't think there is a QB in this draft class that will sniff the top ten

First time back in a long time...it's nice to see some familiar faces! (er..screen names).

I'm actually excited about McCown returning, and here's why: I think he proved enough last season to debunk the myth that his Chicago season was an anomaly. McCown wasn't stellar, but he was solid without having much of a running game, WR corp, or defense capable of getting him the ball back. He displayed toughness, poise, and leadership. I'm excited because Hue Jackson prides himself on running the ball, and if he can accomplish that, I like what we have in McCown. We obviously need to draft or sign a younger guy, but I don't necessarily believe it has to be with the second pick. More ideally (to me), I'd like to see a QB drafted in the second or third round, have him groomed behind McCown, and approach it that way. McCown is about as good as they come in terms of teaching and mentoring, so if a Connor Shaw or Carson Wentz is available in the second round, I'd go that route. So we take a Bosa, CB, or even OL with our first pick, and then work on getting on our QB.

I've heard some people saying that Hue would try to bring AJ McCarron to Cleveland. That won't happen, for several reasons. I believe he's under contract, and the Bengals would never trade within the division. Even if he's not under contract, AJ hasn't shown enough to warrant huge attention anyway. He played decently with a talented roster. Our roster...not so much.

There's a possibility of someone like RG III, but I just don't see it. He's about the only guy I could see us pursuing, but RG III is an unknown commodity. Sure he's finally healthy, but what about his mental health?

I don't see us going Goff or Lynch in the first round. If we are truly using analytics to acquire free agents and draft players, I can't see us drafting a QB so high UNLESS the guy really adds up. It's only January, and much changes in the coming months. If our evaluators determine a QB IS WORTH IT, then that means Goff or Lynch caught fire and proved their merit. I don't see that happening, but again, it's January. Every year a QB seems to get hot and rockets up the board, and this year I believe it will be Carson Wentz. He's a cool story, and certainly has all the physical tools. I think a team will fall in love with him and take him in the first round. Especially if he has a good pro day and combine.

The other option is Johnny Manziel. While we don't have a definite word on his status, the general feeling that I get from just about everyone is that he'll be asked to leave, and he'll be asked soon. I don't know when trades are allowed, but I assume we'll try and trade him first, and once that breaks down, we'll just cut him. It's another sad chapter in an even sadder novel. I hope he figures his life and sobriety out. Many of us know people in similar situations, and the recovering addicts I know that DID get better...certainly didn't do it when they were 24 years old and rich. He has a challenge ahead of him, and I hope he makes it.

I don't see too many other QB options. Both Wentz and Connor Shaw have their pluses and minuses, but both could be available in the second round. I need to do some more research on Shaw, but he looks to be someone we could be interested in. I believe he played in a pro style offense, has some physical tools, and has a ton of experience. He's not a "can't miss" prospect, but he's intriguing. For the first time in a long time, I love the coaching hire, and I feel like we have a plan. Time will tell.

Let's talk about Brock Osweiler for a moment. He is going to be a FA at the end of the season. Denver has a lot of top players to resign. Can they afford to give him what it would take to get him to sign a contract before free agency? Maybe, maybe not. Would they franchise him? I don't see how they would. 1st the cap hit. 2nd no way they pay him $20 million for one year.

Having said that, let's assume that he does become a free agent. Would you be interested in signing him? If so, what kind of contract would you give him? He has come in and done a nice job in relief of Manning. But nice it the adjective to use. He has been far from great. Hasn't really been that good but hasn't been bad either. And I would expect improvement with experience.

Caveat - I have not seen more than a handful of plays from him. Mostly going off what I have read.

I really think that Kirk Cousins could be the guy for the Browns under Hue Jackson. However, I believe that Washington will slap the franchise tag on Cousins if they need to. I think they really believe in him.

I agree, that's why I didn't ask the question about Cousins as well. There's no feasible scenario that he hits the FA market.

There was some recent talk here on the board that Matt Stafford might be available in a trade from the Lions. If that's true - which I kind of doubt - I wonder if you could pry him loose with that 32nd pick in the draft? Lions could take home-state sweetheart, Connor Cook, and we would have our franchise QB for the next 8-10 years. Stafford will be 27 in February.

No, It would start with our 1st this year and maybe next as well.

Nope, they've already said they're committed to Stafford.

Glad you brought this up. I was wondering the same thing. I don't think I've caught a snap of his since joining the Broncos, but I liked him coming out of college... I thought he was the #4 QB in that class behind Luck, Griffin, and Wilson (you can see in my 'your and my big boards thread from that year.) Anybody have any thoughts of Osweiler as a Pro?

take Jared Goff @ 2 Period!!!I am tired of mediocre QB's