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It's a mix of businesses and city/state restrictions:

Concealed carry is prohibited on public transportation, at a bar or restaurant that gets more than half its revenue from the sale of alcohol, at a public gathering or special event that requires a permit (e.g. a street fair or festival), at a place where alcohol is sold for special events, and on private property where the owner has chosen not to allow it (and, unless the property is a private residence, has posted an appropriate sign). Concealed carry is also not allowed at any school, college or university, preschool or daycare facility, government building, courthouse, prison, jail, detention facility, hospital, playground, park, Cook County Forest Preserve area, stadium or arena for college or professional sports, amusement park, riverboat casino, off-track betting facility, library, zoo, museum, airport, nuclear facility, or place where firearms are prohibited under federal law. However, concealed carry license holders who are in the parking lot of a prohibited location (except a nuclear facility) are allowed to carry a concealed firearm when they are in their vehicle, and to store their gun locked in their vehicle and out of plain view.
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Originally Posted By: Swish
Sure it does. You have a whole continent of Australia as proof.

I'm for responsible gun ownership, but when you and others goes "need more proof" the proof is out there already, the facts are in.

Are you're doing is back pedaling.

Stabbing are up in the countries with limited/complete ban on guns.

But the death rates have dropped. Because it takes more effort to kill somebody using melee weapons.

At this point, your basically saying "I know my chances of survival are higher when no guns are involved, but I really like my guns"

Just say you like guns. When you guys start making all these other arguments, it really doesn't hold much water at that point.


Sorry if this has already been brought up, but I didn't bother reading past this ignorant statement. First of all the overall crime rate is up in Australia. Second of all and most importantly, it is impossible to compare the gun grab in Australia to what would happen in the US. Simply because Australia in an ISLAND, criminals can't run guns across Australia's open borders because it is an ISLAND and there is 100 miles of ocean separating it from the closest piece of land. Not so much the case in the United States. Considering your stance on guns I'm assuming you also believe building a wall on our border is bigotry. The most recent gun grab by potus does absolutely zero to stop recent attacks such as San Bernardino, all it does is make it harder for law abiding citizens to purchase a firearm. Get your head out of your rear end.

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We're talking deaths when we talk gun control.


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In general I have difficulty talking about political issues. I'd like to see a much greater emphasis on mental health, personal fulfillment and strengthening families and communities. I think that resolves most social issues and makes topics like gun control less messy. In general I find most issues come back to how we should be deal with the fact that people are dysfunctional and whether freedom is a positive or negative thing due to this circumstance. I'd like to strike the root of the issue.

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I'm not sure there is a "gun grab" attempt by the Obama administration. Truly, I do not see the conservative's issue. Why would we not want better background checks? Why would we not want those with mental health issues identified, evaluated and a decision made on an individual basis? Why would we not want an appropriate waiting period? Why would we not want this country to be a safer place?

I know and understand the concept of criminals and thugs getting guns. That will probably never change. But there is an avenue for law abiding citizens to protect themselves, I just did it. And I urge all to do the same.

Let's not get carried away and throw horse out with the manure.


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Truly, I do not see the conservative's issue. Why would we not want better background checks? Why would we not want those with mental health issues identified, evaluated and a decision made on an individual basis?


I'm pretty sure I've said this to you before. The background checks we have in place now would take care of these issues if the government were competent enough to update the database. Have you ever seen the form?


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there's multiple root issues, that people don't want to acknowledge.


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Originally Posted By: Cjrae
Why would we not want those with mental health issues identified, evaluated and a decision made on an individual basis? Why would we not want an appropriate waiting period? Why would we not want this country to be a safer place?



To answer your questions.

1. You'd have to get rid of the HIPPA laws that enforce doctor/patient confidentiality.
2. When someone needs a gun right away, a battered wife/girlfriend for example, they should be able to get it right away.
3. Do you really think the US would be safer when the only way to get a gun is illegally? Once you are able to get rid of all the guns in the world, maybe. Even then, those with the best swords and skills are the top dogs then.


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