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I'm pretty damned happy about the Al Saunders rumor. Hoping it's true that he's a sure hire. That guy knows offense.

would bring instant credibility to this coaching staff. jmo.

And entertaining

In the car listening to KNR yesterday, Grossi mentioned the week being quiet was a good thing. He mentioned there may be guys hired,and they may be waiting to announce them all at once..

Yes speculation from Tony, does it hold any merit who knows. I just figured I would pass that on..

I guess this is about where I'm at. Not a fan of Ray but if Hue wants him, then that's what should happen.

I'm still not sure if I'm Ray that I even take the interview.

Why not?

His salary with another team would be offset by the salary the Browns are still paying him from his old contract, but he stands a good chance of double dipping that deal here instead.

'Browns close to adding Al Saunders to offensive staff'

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...partner=ya5nbcs

Posted by Darin Gantt on January 20, 2016, 6:37 AM EST

New Browns coach Hue Jackson may not want to hire an offensive coordinator, but he’s close to hiring a guy who has spent a lot of years with that title.

Via Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Jackson is expected to hire his former Raiders coordinator Al Saunders to help him fix the Browns defense. The two old friends interviewed last week, and Saunders should be joining the team soon.

The 68-year-old Saunders was last a consultant with the Dolphins. He was head coach of the Chargers in the late 1980s (replacing Don Coryell), and also worked with Jackson in Baltimore.

He’s been coordinator in Kansas City, St. Louis and Washington as well, and has a long track record of helping teams’ passing games.

Hue is thinking outside the box this time. Kudos to MKC for breaking such revolutionary news.

Huh?

Thanks that was perfect...lol

What many forget this is Hue Jacksons show now. It his "TEAM" that he is building. Let get this guy that guy...the point being they have to be HIS guys no more a Hodge Podge of heads and directions. ONE GOAL, ONE DIRECTION - ALL on the same page. I'm building my TEAM...I want MY O my D doesn't mean I micro manage it all. But I want it MY WAY!

That is called a HEAD, Leader of course his situation is a little more complex...but a TEAM is a TEAM!

jmho I want him to build it his way.

You keeping score at home Oldskool?

I am more interested in who the offensive line Coach is going to be

I'm thinking Mary Kay made a boo-boo?

Also from Mary Kay:

'Hue Jackson is expected to land Al Saunders, his former Raiders offensive coordinator'

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Hue Jackson is calling upon his old Raiders offensive coordinator Al Saunders to help him run the offense in Cleveland.

Rest of story here:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ss...art_river_index

not Mary Kay, the PFT writer has fixed his info...


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...partner=ya5nbcs

Got ya. I should have known better then to blame her!

j/c


Browns finalizing deal for Ray Horton as...nd Kirby Wilson

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- The Browns are finalizing a deal with Ray Horton as their offensive coordinator and have also added Al Saunders and Kirby Wilson to their offensive staff, league sources have said.

Saunders will be senior assistant and Wilson will be the running game coordinator.

Horton has already put in a request to the league office to hire some of the assistants he left behind in Tennessee, a league source told cleveland.com.

Horton, 55, returns to Cleveland, where he ran the defense in 2013 under Rob Chudzinski. The Browns finished ninth in yards allowed that season and 23rd in points per game.

The Titans finished 12th on defense this year with Horton running the show, including seventh against the pass and 18th against the run.

Saunders was Hue Jackson's offensive coordinator in 2011 in Oakland, where they went 8-8 before Jackson got fired after the season. He's been a head coach of the Chargers and was part of the Rams' Greatest Show on Turf Super Bowl-winning team in 1999.

Wilson's contract expired on Tuesday and he met with the Browns today to finalize his deal.

Like Horton, Wilson coached for the Steelers and knows the AFC North.

got to say.. really impressed with the way the coaching staff is coming together.

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I agree some good hires. Hue is putting together some pretty good x and o kind of coaches.

I preferred Schwartz, but I think Horton is grossly underestimated. As Rob Ryan, I wonder how good Ray can be given his ideal personal.

Wow, I think the Browns did well on the offensive side of the ball.

I was hoping for more black coaches...


After all..They are the Cleveland Browns..

I think so far Hue is doing a good job with the staff..

I wasn't a fan of bringing back Horton, But I'm not the HC.

I will support him now and hope he succeeds and turns this "D" into a bad ass group.

There has been to much misery and negativity in the past, I won't continue that cycle before the start of this season.

Agree or disagree I will support this staff and wish them the best.

Nothing worse than being down and negative just to be.

I want this team to win, so I want this coaching staff to do that, for the franchise and fans. Sending out the positive vibes.

As I said before, I'm not super excited about Horton given his previous stint, but I'm willing to give him a real shot since I don't think he had enough time to build what he wanted to. I think he'll have a better chance this time.

Seems like Horton is the man. We will run the 3-4 Zone blitz scheme. At least he will attack. Now we need a 3-4 defensive end to bookend with Bryant, and a LOT of linebackers. 4 starters and some backups.

j/c


Hal Hunter...it looks like the Browns are going traditional man blocking scheme.

Looks like a legit, veteran coaching staff - no noobs, no rookies. Good job, Hue.

Looks like Jimmy fooled you all once again.

I think Horton is a good DC. I know his scheme is effective. So now it becomes a matter of keeping him in place and giving him the players needed to kill quarterbacks. That means linebackers. In this defense we should draft a linebacker every year at some point in the draft and early and often to get us started. I wish there was an LT type sitting there at 2. I know there isn't but an elite pass rusher at DE or linebacker would sure make me smile.... When we get 50 sacks a year, season after season, then I'll be satisfied with the pass rush

I don't suppose there are any significant FA's at linebacker this year? We have cap space and we are in desperate dire need....

#success

Hiring a good coaching staff doesn't in the slight mean Jimmy fooled anyone. Browns hired a pretty good staff under Chud. How did that turn out? To me, it is a step in the right direction proof can they actually build something?

A lot of LB's especially inside. We suck at ILB

That's fine, bugs.

To me..........Haslam is a snake and I think the Browns will continue to suck and will continue to sucker the fans who so desperately want to believe.

I don't know. I don't like to disagree with you, but why were we fooled?

You know more about it than I, though I will say I am not exactly thrilled about the Horton hire.

These guys suck?

I don't think I know more than you. Not trying to say that at all.

Look, before the season so many of you were so high on both Pet and Farmer. Superstars. Heck, you said we were going to win 11 games.

The team sucked, as several of us predicted. The fans turned on the team. Haslam blew things up again. The fans were appeased and our buying into the new regime once again.

I see more of the same crap. I don't believe in them. That doesn't mean I think you should agree w/me, but I ain't gonna let him sucker me again.

I'm hearing you. This last coaching staff tossed to the curb shows Haslam's colors. I hope your theory isn't correct. Ruining Hue's career would be an absolute sin.

On another note, let's hope Mangini gets a real chance with the 49ers,

If you predicted the team was going to suck, and they did. Why are you so upset that we got rid of the ones that caused us to suck ?

Does seem like a lot of people have already decided that "Jimmy did it right".

I'm in wait and see mode. I was disappointed they didn't even talk to an experienced coach. Hue Jackson is an unknown. He may or may not be a good head coach. Huge question mark.


I think Horton is a good DC. I have no problem with the hire except I would have preffered a 4-3 guy. Now, lets see the lawyer and baseball guy draft some stud linebackers so Horton can actually RUN the zone blitz D. I would also suggest that you ask Horton to groom a possible replacement in case he gets a HC job at some point. If we're going to build for this D then we are committed to it. Be nice to have a guy in place.

Do I WANT this to work? Bet your ass I do. I'm not getting any younger. Would be awesome if we could build a team that could actually play some ball. But you know me man, if they start blowing it I will point it out lol I have no allegiance to any coach, GM or owner. No loyality to any player. They have none for us... So it's time to show and prove for Jackson and the front office. Lets SEE if they are worth their salt, or if it's just another case of "meet the new boss, same as the old boss"

If I predicted we were going to suck? Seriously? You don't remember all the attacks that some of us received this summer? It wasn't that long ago.

It's real simple. I knew we had inferior talent.

Again.........unless we could have hired a superstar like Saban, I was all for retaining Pet. Farmer had to go. But, losing him would not have hurt the continuity because we could have kept the same schemes and many of our better players.

Now.........we changed coaches and we're going to have to wait even longer because the schemes are changing and we don't have the right personnel to fit them, blah, blah, blah.

It's the same old crap designed to buy more time while Haslam fills his pockets.