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If you could only keep one, which one would it be?

Schwartz or Mack
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I want to keep both and do not like the premise of the thread. However, Mack is a superior player and more important to the team's success than Schwartz. That is not a knock on Schwartz, but you are the one who made the dumb rule. LOL

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Man, that's a tough one. Mack is a better player and more important to the team but it would be more expensive resource wise to replace Schwartz adequately.

I'll go with keep Mack and replace Schwartz, just because I believe we're going to a power running scheme.

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I'll keep Schwartz - I've seen too many swinging doors at RT for the Browns. Plus, I think Schwartz is underrated by some posters, while Mack is slightly overrated. Teams find Centers in the 4th, 5th, and 6th round of the draft every year. Tackles are harder to come by,imo.

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Originally Posted By: Dave
I'll keep Schwartz - I've seen too many swinging doors at RT for the Browns. Plus, I think Schwartz is underrated by some posters, while Mack is slightly overrated. Teams find Centers in the 4th, 5th, and 6th round of the draft every year. Tackles are harder to come by,imo.


This 100%.

Steve and Vers, I gotta say your answers surprised me, especially the part that you say it's clear cut that Mack is the better player.


LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
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I actually think the opposite. Schwartz is overrated by many posters on this board and Mack is underrated by many posters on this board.

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I'll keep Mack, I think he's great at lining people up presnap and towards the later part of the season, started playing at a high level again. It's awesome when you can pull your center.

Tough one though, both would be great to keep.

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I voted Mack, and I'm sticking with Mack, but it's not by a wide margin. It's a tough call.

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I voted Mack, and I'm sticking with Mack, but it's not by a wide margin. It's a tough call.


I voted Mack too. I doubt Mack sticks with us though.


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Preference - keep both
Based on the question - keep Mack
Real expectation - keep Schwartz


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Keep Schwartz and trade for Khalil Mack. Simple.


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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I want to keep both and do not like the premise of the thread. However, Mack is a superior player and more important to the team's success than Schwartz. That is not a knock on Schwartz, but you are the one who made the dumb rule. LOL


No one said you had to participate.

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I say we should keep both. You see we are not being forced to make a choice so why in the hell should we. tongue


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
I say we should keep both. You see we are not being forced to make a choice so why in the hell should we. tongue


If we are not allowed to have threads based on hypothetical situations, then this website should shut down.

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or you should quit worrying about hypotheticl crap that is made up in somebody's mind. This hypothetical crap is what proved that you nuts


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Originally Posted By: GMdawg
or you should quit worrying about hypotheticl crap that is made up in somebody's mind. This hypothetical crap is what proved that you nuts


No one said you had to participate.

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Sorry but I am almost as nuts as you so I could,nt help myself.


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1. Your not nuts
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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I want to keep both and do not like the premise of the thread. However, Mack is a superior player and more important to the team's success than Schwartz. That is not a knock on Schwartz, but you are the one who made the dumb rule. LOL


No one said you had to participate.


Lighten up, Francis.

Sheesh man, I was just messing around.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I want to keep both and do not like the premise of the thread. However, Mack is a superior player and more important to the team's success than Schwartz. That is not a knock on Schwartz, but you are the one who made the dumb rule. LOL


No one said you had to participate.


Lighten up, Francis.

Sheesh man, I was just messing around.


Just going off of track record.

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I picked Schwartz.

My thinking is its "better" to find a Hank Fraley than it is to end up with an O'Niel Cousins.

Plus we drafted a guy that played Center in college, and was rated well at that position. Plus Greco is a solid Center IMO.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: GMdawg
I say we should keep both. You see we are not being forced to make a choice so why in the hell should we. tongue


If we are not allowed to have threads based on hypothetical situations, then this website should shut down.

Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical situations? tongue


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
I want to keep both and do not like the premise of the thread. However, Mack is a superior player and more important to the team's success than Schwartz. That is not a knock on Schwartz, but you are the one who made the dumb rule. LOL


No one said you had to participate.


Lighten up, Francis.

Sheesh man, I was just messing around.


Just going off of track record.


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I picked Swartz, because Greco can play center and Pasztor can take Grecos spot. I would prefer to keep both, because Mack is a quality player.

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I picked Schwartz. He is 4 years younger, so he still has some upside. Mack is 30.


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I'd like to keep both. I think we'll keep Schwartz and Mack will walk


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I vote to keep Schwartz. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, if we keep Schwartz he will get to continue to improve beside Austin Pasztor who I believe helped solidify the line towards the end of the season and was a big reason we were running a little better at the end of the year.

Second, we have Greco who is serviceable at center until Erving is ready to take over. Or you could put Erving in and then have Greco there if he flounders.

I hope to God that we keep both, but if it's one or the other that's how I would go about it.

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As you point out, we do seem to have more options at C than at RT, and frankly, I think that a good RT is harder to find than a good Center. (and while I happen to think that Mack is a very, very food Center, given the choice, I think that he can be replaced a little more easily than Schwartz)


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Originally Posted By: farmville_dawg
I vote to keep Schwartz. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, if we keep Schwartz he will get to continue to improve beside Austin Pasztor who I believe helped solidify the line towards the end of the season and was a big reason we were running a little better at the end of the year.

Second, we have Greco who is serviceable at center until Erving is ready to take over. Or you could put Erving in and then have Greco there if he flounders.

I hope to God that we keep both, but if it's one or the other that's how I would go about it.


Putting Greco at center is good, but who then would take over his guard spot? With that said, I think we could find more feasible options to plug in at guard to correct a mixup at center/Mack leaving than finding someone currently on the roster who could play RT.

I would vote Mitchell if I could go back in time.

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I vote to keep Schwartz. There are a couple of reasons for this. First, if we keep Schwartz he will get to continue to improve beside Austin Pasztor who I believe helped solidify the line towards the end of the season and was a big reason we were running a little better at the end of the year.

Second, we have Greco who is serviceable at center until Erving is ready to take over. Or you could put Erving in and then have Greco there if he flounders.

I hope to God that we keep both, but if it's one or the other that's how I would go about it.


Putting Greco at center is good, but who then would take over his guard spot? With that said, I think we could find more feasible options to plug in at guard to correct a mixup at center/Mack leaving than finding someone currently on the roster who could play RT.

I would vote Mitchell if I could go back in time.


Dawg, Pasztor was playing guard at the end of the year. I think that he did a good job as the running game seemed to get a little better towards the end of the year.

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I'm an idiot. Forgot all about one of our actual "good" draft picks in Joel.

From left to right respectively: Thomas, Joel, Greco, Pasztor and Mitchell.

We're in deep crap if anyone goes down, but I could live with that starting group and I'm sure Hue/Pep could too.

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I think we are set up to potentially replace Schwartz, as we "already" have a replacement for Mack..

So if we are keeping only one, I'd keep Schwartz.

If we lose both, I'd go after Andre Smith.

Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Smith


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I think we are set up to potentially replace Schwartz, as we "already" have a replacement for Mack..

So if we are keeping only one, I'd keep Schwartz.

If we lose both, I'd go after Andre Smith.

Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, Smith


I think if we lose them both it could look like Thomas, Bitonio, Greco, Pasztor, Erving/Draft Pick. Need to leave Pasztor at guard he was kind of a road grader.

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I dont want to see Erving against speed rushers.


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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I dont want to see Erving against speed rushers.


I know he switched to center his last year at FL ST and I think he was moved from a tackle position because of his versatility. I think he may have an easier time against speed rushers than he would against bull rushers because of his lower body strength.

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Originally Posted By: ThatGuy
I dont want to see Erving against speed rushers.



I agree. I think his position is center.


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51%-49% after a month and over 40 votes means it was a good poll.

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I think schwartz is better than a lot of people think, but we're probably going to have a new young QB at some point this year and having Mack there I believe will make all the difference.

I have no faith in Cameron Erving.. None. I want to be wrong, but I don't think I am.

I'd keep Mack.


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Who would have voted neither?

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Who would have voted neither?


Sashi Brown it would seem.

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