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Browns indicate they'll cut Johnny Manziel March 9 for continually undermining 'the reputation of our organization'

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By Mary Kay Cabot, Cleveland.com on February 02, 2016 at 12:39 PM, updated February 02, 2016 at 1:31 PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns Executive Vice President Sashi Brown made it clear Tuesday that the Browns are done with Johnny Manziel, who's under investigation by Texas police and the NFL for possibly assaulting his ex-girlfriend.

"We've been clear about expectations for our players on and off the field. Johnny's continual involvement in incidents that run counter to those expectations undermines the hard work of his teammates and the reputation of our organization,'' Brown said in the statement. "His status with our team will be addressed when permitted by league rules. We will have no further comment at this time."

The Browns can't waive Manziel until the league year begins March 9 because they've already exercised the option of moving their salary cap space from this year into next year. Therefore, they don't have the option of waiving him when the waiver period opens Feb. 8, a day after the Super Bowl.

Police in Fort Worth and Dallas are investigating Manziel for possibly assaulting his ex-girlfriend early Saturday morning. The NFL is also investigating, since this is the second incident since Oct. 13, when he was involved in a roadway argument with Colleen Crowley.

Manziel faces possible suspension by the NFL, but probably won't be the Browns' problem much longer.

Manziel was not arrested by Avon, Ohio police for the Oct. 13 incident, and the NFL cleared him of any wrongdoing despite Crowley initially telling police that Manziel beat her and shoved her head into the glass of the car.

Crowley, who was drunk at the time, later changed her story and said Manziel didn't harm her. Now, Manziel is being accused a second time of possibly assaulting a female.

Early Saturday morning, police in Fort Worth, Texas were called to an apartment building near Texas Christian University, where Crowley -- who might now be his ex-girlfriend -- is a student. Crowley's name was not mentioned in the police report, just a 23-year-old female, so it's unclear if she's the woman involved.

When police arrived, they couldn't locate the caller but came across the 23-year-old woman who reported that she had been involved in a disturbance with Manziel in Dallas and possibly other locations. Although she was uncooperative, she managed to express to police that she was worried about Manziel -- whom she described as her ex-boyfriend -- which prompted Fort Worth police to search for him.

When he didn't answer calls to his cell phones, police searched the area in patrol cars and eventually an Air One helicopter to look for him. Ultimately, he was found to be safe and in no danger. But police in Fort Worth and Dallas are still "actively working'' to determine if Manziel assaulted his ex-girlfriend.

On Monday, police in both jurisdictions said there was nothing new to report.

The NFL, which launches its own probes into domestic violence allegations, brought in investigator Lisa Friel to interview Manziel on Oct. 28 at the Browns facility in Berea regarding the Oct. 13 roadway argument with Crowley. Manziel was represented by NFLPA Heather McPhee.

The NFL also interviewed Crowley and the Avon Police, and ultimately declined to issue any punishment.

"Based on the information gathered, we have concluded that there is an insufficient basis on which to take disciplinary action,'' the NFL said in a statement. "In all cases of this nature, our concern under the Personal Conduct Policy goes well beyond the issue of discipline, and we have made comprehensive professional resources available on a confidential basis.''

Following that announcement -- on the same day he was named the starter for the final six games of the season -- Manziel issued a statement saying the league's decision should put to rest any thoughts that he had hurt Crowley.

"I appreciate the NFL's diligence and discretion in reviewing a situation that was both personal and embarrassing,'' Manziel said. "Colleen and I cooperated fully with the NFL's process and completely support their goals of making sure that every family under their umbrella is safer and more secure.

"I'm grateful that the review was so thorough and fair that there should be no question left in the public mind about what actually happened.''

Manziel and Crowley remained together for a period of time after that, based on their tweets and Instagram posts.

Again, it's unclear if Crowley is the woman involved in this incident.

Manziel's publicist, Denise Michaels, declined comment. His agent, Erik Burkhardt, did not respond to a text and his lawyer and family friend, Brad Beckworth, has not returned a phone call.

A source close to Manziel said friends have been worried about him for a period of months. One said he became a "train wreck'' as the season wore on.

Manziel, who spent 73 days in inpatient addiction treatment center last off-season, has been photographed frequently drinking alcohol over the past several months.

That is hilarious considering the organization is owned by a crook. Drinking is much worse than cheating other companies out of millions of dollars and being indicted for federal fraud charges.

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime." -Honore de Balzac

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This is an awesome twitter name, by the way.

Local newscaster said that Jerry Jones isn't as interested in Johnny as he use to be and doubts he'll take him. Who knows what Jerry will do? He's already taken a Brown cast off and regretted it. I have a feeling that if JM wants to be a Cowboy he better buy some chaps and learn to ride a bull in the rodeo. Being as Johnny is from this area, the local news has really been down on him and believe his NFL career is over.

Unless things keep getting worse with him I still think another team may very well pick him up, but who? Don't know.

Id much rather we get something for him, but hopefully this is addition through subtraction.

Someone else will pick him up. Somewhere he wants to be. He will stop acting like a baby and get his crap together and be decent.

..or hes a total bust.

I don't 100% agree with the decision to cut him (as that does appear to be the plan), but I understand. I'm assuming that this is mostly/all Hue's decision. I was kind of hoping that Hue could whip Johnny into shape, give him a second/third/fourth chance, but if Hue is saying 'no thanks' then I'm confident that cutting Johnny is the right move.

Kinda per the drum that Vers is beating right now, it kinda makes handling the Gordon situation a little more interesting. All the credibility you might have gained from saying 'enough' with Johnny could be given back by welcoming back Gordon. IMO, Gordon could be seen as more of an acceptable risk as he has shown he can be a stud on the field. Manziel has proven nothing on the field.

It's hard to not feel like a hypocrite talking like that, but that's just reality in such a results-based environment as the NFL. Makes me glad I'm not in that type of line of work, as I would have a hard time making those decisions.

I hope it's dead true the assumptions people are forming after Sashi's statements, and I can't wait to say GOOD BYE AND GOOD RIDDANCE, loser!

If this is true, would that not be tampering?

Why are you making stuff up. Haslam wasn't indicted and probably will never be indicted.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...m-was-indicted/

News Channel 5 here in Cleveland reported that he had and later had to retract it because it was false.

You've continued to state it as fact that he's been indicted.

If he has, I've found NO PROOF of it. Speculation that one of those indicted said that Haslam was aware of the fraud back in 2013 haven't caused him to be indicted.

He's a big fish, They WANT to indict him if they can. Yet, after all this time, he's not been indicted. That doesn't mean he won't be at some point.

In America we are presumed innocent. But apparently you don't want to accept that as fact. YOu want to hang Haslam and you'll do any thing to accomplish that, even make stuff up.

Now, I'm not perfect by any means, and if he's been indicted, then I can't find any thing that says he has.

SO, Either show me he's been indicted, or shut up about it.

Grow a set and admit you were wrong..

I have to admit, I'm surprised they would just cut him.

We know he wasn't indicted, but that's not the point. Haslam was head of a crooked organization. We'll never know if he was part of it. Personally, I don't think he knew, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

LOOOL if you believe anything he says at this point.

Posting something for the board to digest doesn't mean someone believes it.

If Greg Hardy can find a job after what he (allegedly) did, so will Manziel.

Someone will pick him up.

Speaking of tampering, how dumb do you have to be in order to tweet that? Has this guy's agent not permanently taken his phone away?

I believe it certainly would be. While I believe that JFF may be stupid enough to say theses things, I don't believe three separate NFL teams would be stupid enough to do this.

Yet, I have seen nothing to back up that he actually said this.

In related news, Goff, Wentz, and Lynch just had a conference call trying to figure out how they can drop their 40 times to drop out of the top 5.

and just become someone rep[lies tot he post doesn't mean they are directing their response at you personally.

"Resistance is futile"

I've stated this before but apparently it just goes over like a lead balloon. PFJ is a 28 Billion dollar company.

I worked for a 13 Billion dollar company and one of the guys at the very top didn't know that one of his Regional VP's stole millions from a client until the client questioned it. WHen a company is that big, generally they have measures in place to catch and stop stuff like this, but PFJ had grown so rapidly that those measures may not have been fully fleshed out.

I can see a situation where Jimmy wasn't aware. But hey, time will tell.

But in the end, for a poster to state, without a doubt, that he's been indicted when he hasn't is basically a lie just to push an agenda.

I should also point out that if 10 or 15 people are crooked, that doesn't make the entire corporation corrupt.

So saying that he ran a Crooked company isn't fair either. They've been in business for a long long time and are still in business doing very well I might add. If they, as a whole, were crooked, they'd be gone.

Buh Bye Johnny! Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out of town you piece of crap.... Here's hoping the next woman you assault kicks your scrawny little ass.

Little do they know about the Browns penchant for trading down. Maniacal laugh! Maniacal laugh!

Then I wouldn't use "you" in your response.

So you don't think there is the slightest possibility that she's lying or embellishing the incident?

They better hope that the Browns don't trade down to 22 to take one of them ........

Of course. It couldn't possibly be Johnny's fault. It's all the girls fault. She jumped in front of his fist. Johnny couldn't ever be to blame. He is perfect it all things. Greatest QB in the league.... so slapping around women is fine. *snicker*

I do not understand this love for Johnny Asshat.

I was wrong DawgTalkers. I waz wrong. After the 49ers and Chiefs games, I said to stand pat.. stay w McCown, Maniel, Davis and not draft a QB.

I was wrong. We can no longer afford to spend any time on the circus act. We need to have a professional football team with the members of the team all focused on the goal. Winning games. I don't care what his goals are, they are not the same goals as the Cleveland Browns.

I waz wrong.

#22 should be banned in anything associated with the Browns and QBs

Fourth times a charm!

I bet the Texans are desperate enough for a QB to take a chance on him. I was screaming for us to offer our #4 and #22 to them for Watt in 2014.

Yep; And Hilary is as clean as the first snow of winter ! lol

Here's to hoping this Soap Opera is over. Now that the new Sheriff is town to clean things up. I was hopeful when he was drafted, but was not in favor of the pick.

Jared Goff -- Welcome to Cleveland

JFF is a train wreck. As long as he continues on this current path, he will always be a problem for any team. He seems bound and determined to destroy his life.

That being said, as long as he remains that way he is useless as a QB for just about any team, unless they are running an offense that is drawn in the dirt.

What in the hell does Hillary have to do with it?

And when did I ever say she was as clean as the first snow of winter.

But like Haslam, she's not been indicted or convicted of anything..