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Don't let the door hit you on the way out Manziel

Let me guess:

Your favorite movie is Draft Day and you play a ton of Madden?

"We're sitting there and they keep showing Johnny on T.V. and Johnny and I are texting and he shoots me a text and he says, 'I wish you guys would come get me. Hurry up and draft me because I want to be there. I want to wreck this league together.'"

Perhaps he meant "Let's wreck this team together".

Goodbye and good riddance.

I just pray that Manziel gets the help he certainly appears to desperately need.

Yes, I believe it would be.

cops got called to a domestic dispute, he took off and they had to get a helicopter to search for him. All of this at 2 a.m. on a Saturday....

I'm betting he was 'faced.

Of course the Rams are interested in him. They have a new stadium and need to flesh out their food-services roster.

The men will cheer and the boys will shout
The ladies they will all turn out
And we'll all feel gay
When Johnny goes marching home.

Good Riddance.

There are a few places worse than Texas for Manziel. LA is one of them.

I think there is a strong possibility of that, there is also a strong possibility that she was drunk and is more spoiled than him and she started whatever happened. This is the same woman that tried to climb out of a moving car on the interstate.

That said, my focus right now, my energy, is behind Hue Jackson.... and Hue doesn't need to deal with this constant barrage of bullcrap that just seems to surround Manziel... some of it is media sensationalizing, some of it is not his fault, but a lot of it is by his own actions and by the people he chooses to keep near him...

So I'm firmly at the point now where I want Manziel gone.. not necessarily because he's an alcoholic (which he may or may not be), not because he has anger issues or because he has woman issues.. but because he is a DISTRACTION. Day and night, night and day, the Browns FO shouldn't be wondering what Manziel is up to and wondering what questions are going to be asked about his weekend activities... sorry, time for him to go.

I am mostly mad that we wasted YEARS on this guy. And he still didn't play much. I can't have those years back.

Manziel is a crap magnet. I had hope, but the FO, the coaches, and the players don't deserve the distraction.

Just clean it up and move on. I welcome the decision. Draft gets more interesting now.

I was hoping we'd hold on long enough to try and get something so it wasn't a total waste of another 1st but he's just not worth the trouble any more.

post of the thread.

Quit. You are acting like Haslam was the one doing so. If you have proof, that's one thing. He hasn't been charged with a crime.

That said, I agree it was a stupid move to cut Johnny at this time unless there is unknown information I will touch on in a moment.

Does anybody think Bill Belicheck would have done it this way? The smart move would have been to hold on to your cards through the draft. I am not saying we shouldn't cut him if that was the decision. I am fine with that. What bothers me is we simply gave up on any chance to trade the guy, even if for a future 7th rounder continget on Manziel making the team.

It makes no sense to me to do this at this time. I understand the team doesn't want to answer questions about the guy, but it makes no sense from a football standpoint. From a PR standpoint, possibly, but it's hard to build a football team if PR is the guiding light.


Unless.....a guy like Thomas or Mack have indicated they don't want to be on the same team as the guy. Then it make's some sense. But as a game of Poker, we folded too soon.

If we have to wait to the new league year to cut Manziel, then we can trade him. My guess is that no one will want him.

Also, Belichick cuts guys all the time to make an example of them.

I had that thought, as well... and, I also figured that we've probably already made calls around to other teams to gauge potential interest and likely found not enough to be worthwhile in any meaningful way.

That said - What Sashi is on record as saying and what the article claims are two different things.

Sashi says "we will address him as allowed by league rules in March".

The article takes that and runs with it to say "we're cutting him".... but, it could be that we're trading him, too. If I'm not mistaken, the date for trading is the same as the date for cutting and signing - e.g. the first day of the new league year.

I don't know if it was that clear cut but I think a guiding priority of this team has got to be improving it's image.. if for no other reason, as a means to try to keep the players we've got and possibly attract others without breaking the bank...

Could also be to send a message to others that there is a new sheriff in town and this crap has gone on long enough...

I mean think about it.. Hue was hired, first reports out were that he was talking about moving on from Manziel... a week or two later, statements out from Haslam how he thinks we can still salvage things with Manziel... another story comes out, Manziel is gone.

I agree that good PR isn't going to build you a football team, but bad PR can make it that much harder to build a football team.. when the rest of the NFL considers your franchise a clown car or a dumpster fire...

It would. Maybe the NFL needs to examine that, though it probably isn't true.

Sure he does. He doesn't do it a month before he can do so. You don't think he would wait and see if any interest started to generate?


Sorry man. He wouldn't join the dog and pony show. He would wait, see if he could get something, then cut him when he had no hand left.

We didn't cut Manziel yet. We didn't even announce we would cut Manziel. If a team wants him and doesn't want him to have the chance to reach free agency, then they cans still trade for him.

Lol. No and no. Though it does look pretty ridiculous now that it's out of my head and on screen. I didn't say I thought they would actually go for it but at the time when Johnny wasn't yet a flame-out, the Texans needed a QB (still do) and he was hugely popular in Texas fresh off his A&M days I would absolutely have offered (thrown in their pick of our D lineman and our 4th rounder too). Of course hindsight is 20/20 but come March 9 those picks will have yielded Gilbert and Irving.

Basically I did not want to pick JM because I didn't like him as a person but mostly I thought the probability of it turning out like it now has was higher than that of him becoming a solid QB. Even if he didn't self-destruct I thought, and still think, his ceiling is Jeff Garcia not Steve Young. Mostly I was hoping to avoid the seemingly inevitable letdown of again blowing our high first round pick because Phil Talyor, Weeden, TRich and Mingo had already shown me that JM and Gilberto would be the let downs they are.

So I blame the Browns ever changing personnel department's statistically improbable ability to preform so consistently poorly in drafts for leading me to lose all hope in the picks that should immensely benefit this team and instead dream up and hope for wildly unlikely trade scenarios.

OK....fair enough. Thanks. I got caught up in the headline and a message from NFL com earlier today saying such .


I don't like it when I draw to conclusions prematurly.

Here are some particulars about the Jimmy "The Crook" Haslam:










Here is the link for the above quotes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/briansolomon...n/#14d2ae3a3563

Haslam is a crook and a liar. And I don't want to read any crap about how a guy who drinks too much makes the organization look bad. Haslam makes the organization look bad. He's a crook and he has continually lied about what he is going to do w/the Browns. He has blown things up several times in a short span. He meddles. He is a piece of crap and I don't care to hear the lying propaganda that oozes like diarrhea from Berea.

This was this past Monday?

No...........I forgot to paste the link. I will edit it.

Oh..........I think the integrity of the owner is the real issue. You may not agree and that is your right, however, I don't wanna hear any crap from the Browns about "looking bad." Haslam is a crook and a liar and I think that is more important than whether or not Johnny drinks too much.

Cool. That is not the subject at hand. You are just trying to divert attention (intentionally or unintentionally) away from Manziel being a screw up.

If you wanted to start a thread about Haslam I'm sure there would be many people who like to discuss that topic.

Read what you just wrote?

Divert attention away from Manziel, huh?

Come on, man! Of all the Browns players, coaches, front office people, owners, etc.............who gets discussed more than Manziel? Is it even close?

Divert attention away from Manziel. That is a classic statement due to the fact that nothing can divert attention away from Manziel. People LOVE talking about him. The same old crap is repeated a zillion times and each new article regurgitates the same old news and then that is discussed ad nauseum on here by the same old people who say the same old stuff.........over and over and over and over and over and over and over...........

Yet, we have a lying crook as our owner and no one wants to discuss whether we can trust him or not.

Interesting...............

Maybe we're hoping a team is REALLY interested in signing him..

So instead of waiting for the (small) bidding war, they send us a low future draft pick to get him.

Start a thread on Haslam. My bet is that many people will want to discuss him with you.

This is a thread about Manziel that you are trying to make about Haslam.

I would take a 2034 conditional seventh round pick for Manziel just so we get some cap savings.

Wait, are you saying he's a crook or not?

This was the title of the article that started this thread:



Do you see that part about "the reputation of our organization?" I contend that the reputation of the organization is already severely tarnished and damaged and I don't wanna hear any propaganda double-talk about how they are so concerned w/character.

So, I think since that is in the title of the article and was listed at the very beginning of the first post on this thread that it is indeed worthy of discussion.

There are all kinds of threads about Manziel. He gets talked about all the freaking time. And he is NOT nearly as important to the fortunes of the Browns as they lying scumbag Haslam is.

What?

I just wonder if you actually feel this way about Haslam or are just trying to get attention. Maybe both.

Either way, I admire your stick–to–itiveness.