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With JFF heading out of town, Gordon's job got easier. Hope he sticks it out if he gets back.

How did his job get easier?

Two people who have substance abuse problems being around each other is a bomb waiting to off.

A Jägerbomb to be precise.

He KILLED in the Catskills...
He's here all week...
Give it up for Tulsaaaaa-

(tip your wait staff)

I suppose.. people with a substance abuse problem don't need a reason or a sidekick. Gordon's job is the same as Manziels should have been, get up every day thinking about how NOT to get in trouble.... for example, I'm sure there are other Browns who smoke weed when they think it's safe.. Gordon's only job is looking after Gordon... But I see what you are saying...

And you crack me up.

Some of you guys are insanely blind.

Gordon had several years of problems dating back to Baylor and got his just dues with the suspension. Difference between Gordon and Manziel is we haven't heard a thing about Gordon for well over a year. That we know of, but he's been out of the negative news.

Had we heard of run-ins with the Law during this time then and only then does Gordon fall into Manziels category.

Manziel is CONSTANTLY in the negative news and I'd bet anything that the entire team is sick of it. The dude gets handed the starting job. His chance at proving himself and he can't even make it to his first game without some stupidity showing up yet again. Quickest Starter to #3 demotion in the history of sports. That's hilariously embarrassing.

Manziel is a self promoting, privileged PUNK. The sooner he's history the better. And Jones can keep his 7th round pick and deal with Manziel's stupidity himself. It's going to get worse when in Dallas. He won't need to FLY anywhere to get into his stupidness. He can just drive.

Take the hit. Turn the page and get Wentz or Goff in here. 2 guys with proven work ethic and work habits.

I think the deal with Gordon is money talks. In the past, his suspensions cost him games, not money in his pocket. I think this last year showed him how nice a lifestyle he can lead IF he gets paid.

I don't know anything about Gordons family background. Maybe they are well off, but my feeling is they are probably pretty average. Not like Johnny who is sitting on a fortune no matter if he plays football.

My hope is the proverbial lightbulb went off in Gordons head and he now sees that if he wants to get paid, he needs to play the game.

Apparently you are getting your wish.

Less enabling, I hope. Thought they were tight and shared some of the problems that might have contributed to the issues.

I don't fully understand the pistons driving the dysfunction for these two, and hope they overcome them. But in the meantime I am done listening to them. One less part of the problem is a smaller problem (JFF departing). Improves the odds of Gordon moving forward.

Precious. LOLetc. good stuff.

the distinct difference between Gordon and Manziel is that talent far outweighs drama which is the only thing that Manziel has shown he is able to do. When on the field, there is no doubt that Gordon is a top 5, top flight receiver. Despite his reckless and wayward well documented behavior, he is worth the risk at this point. For Manziel, he hasn't shown that he is a top five bottom quarterback. Gordon is like a bigger Randy Moss which i will take any day of the week! Based off of previous performance, Gordon is worth the risk and hopefully his past problems are buried deep, deep, deep into the ground and only Indiana Jones can recover them!

Not in the games he played in 2014.



No he isn't. We can get a WR that doesn't get suspended every year.

Which of these two players is currently suspended by the NFL...for the 3rd time? You have it backwards a QB even with issues is more valuable than a three time suspended WR anyday.

And we can get a center to replace Mack, and a RT to replace Schwartz, and a corner to replace Haden, and a pass rusher to replace Sheard, and on and on...

Uh? Which one of them has been suspended 3 times? Gordon is the guy we should be using as an example and cut his ass.

Gordon's last suspension happened because he was drinking on a plane to Vegas that was supposedly chartered by Manziel. I wonder how much of the "I didn't know the season wasn't over" was caused by peer pressure from Johnny Vegas.

FWIW .. Gordon may be much better off with Manziel out of town.

The flight was chartered by Haden.

Come on...........don't ruin a good Manziel bashing.

thought so

(That random white guy is former wide receiver coach Mike McDaniel.)

I thought that when he was suspended he wasn't paid? So when he had that 2 game suspension the year he had a great performance, he lost those two game checks right?

You are correct Daman, when a player is suspended, whether it be 1 game or a whole season, it is done so without pay.

Kinda thought so. Then Peens point is even stronger in that a game here or a game there probably didn't hurt, but 16 game checks gone, that's gotta sting

that 2 game suspension was 4 game checks if i recall...

How's that happen?

How so? ...Pretty sure Gordon was suspended 2 times before JM was in town.

Really how many chances will the NFL give Gordon? He blew every one.

Just see it in a lot of threads about how easy it is to replace guys.. If he wants a little more money, let him walk and replace him...

If they cut Gordon, ok.. but he's not costing us anything, not even a roster spot at the moment... and he's proven he can play... if they want to cut him I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, I just don't think it's the prudent business decision to make..

[/quote]I thought that when he was suspended he wasn't paid? So when he had that 2 game suspension the year he had a great performance, he lost those two game checks right? [/quote]


Oh, he wasn't, but he still brought in 14 game checks. What were those for, after taxes maybe 70K each? Even if for 30K each, there is a big difference in that and ZERO game checks.

I have never received a $30K paycheck. Maybe you have, but I don't think so just having rapped with you for maybe 10-12 years now.

Meathead WAS a top receiver for ONE season. He had ONE very good year. By the start of camp it will be almost 3 years since meat played a significant role on this team. For all we know he might be finished. There's a BIG difference between being in good street shape and being in FOOTBALL shape. Sometimes that just doesn't come back.....

Anyone counting on meathead is in for a rude awakening. The odds of him making it back to where he was are pretty bad. Odds of him keeping himself out of trouble with the league are on par with the odds winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning.

Time to sign and DRAFT a #1 WR or THREE and forget about meat. He's a lost cause. He doesn't exist....

Meathead, like Johnny, is a distraction. Every time he screws up, the press hound the staff and the players about their "feelings" over it. Anything that distracts from 100% concentration on football does COST us. Dilbert, Johnny and meat are all distractions to the goal of winning a championship.

one year wonder under a coach that made BE and winslow and that guy hecket drafted into one year wonders...

I thought that when he was suspended he wasn't paid? So when he had that 2 game suspension the year he had a great performance, he lost those two game checks right? [/quote]


LOL,, Actually, I have, Once. I made a placement, I placed a guy in a job that paid him over 100K salary and the fee was a hair over 30K. I've made placements of similar size, but it was when I worked for a recruiting firm and I received my commission out of it which was just a tad less than half. But I get your point.

Cleveland Browns wide receiver Josh Gordon has been suspended two games and fined four game checks by the NFL for violating the league's substance-abuse policy.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000...nd-browns-games

lost 4 game checks....

Lol jeez I thought that JUST happened. Glad I looked at the date.

And Josh is the only one not looking at the camera. It's like he noticed something from afar making it's way to the plane....like the NFL Testing Mobile.

Edit: Can't wait until the skinny jeans fad is over with. Bunch of chicken legs running around this country!

Ditto.

Roger Goodell says Josh Gordon must convince him he won't slip up again if reinstated

SAN FRANCISCO -- NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell made it clear that Browns receiver Josh Gordon must convince him he won't slip up again if he's to reinstate him from his indefinite drug ban.

"We did get the letter from Josh,'' Goodell confirmed in his Super Bowl press conference Friday. "The process is that we'll go back and we'll look at how he's conducted himself over the last several months, what he's done to make sure it's consistent with the terms of his suspension.

"And at some stage we'll have a report on that and I will engage with our people to understand where he is, where he's been, but most importantly it's where he's going. When these things happen, it's about trying to avoid them in the future.

"Our No. 1 issue here is to prevent these things from happening. I'm hopeful that Josh understands that he's going to have to conduct himself differently going forward to be a member of the NFL and to be representing the Cleveland Browns, or any team in the NFL.

"So our job is to try to get people to understand that, try to make sure that they live by the policies that we have and ensure that this is what all of us in the league want, but also I think our fans want. our fans want players playing by the same rules.''

Gordon, who's been suspended in each of his first three seasons in the league for violating the substance abuse policy, was banned indefinitely on Feb. 3 for violating terms of his Stage 3 program.

He was suspended for two games in 2013 for what he said was codeine in his cough syrup, 10 games in 2014 for marijuana, and all of 2015 for what he said was two drinks on a plane, which violated his no-alcohol mandate.

A source told cleveland.com that Gordon is doing well and is confident he'll be re-instated.

Goodell has 60 days from the date of the application to rule, but he did not indicate when a decision could come. He also did not specify if he'll meet with Gordon.

If Gordon violates the terms of his program again, he'll again be suspended -- with a much tougher chance of getting back into the league.

Browns coach Hue Jackson has said he'll treat Gordon like any other player.

"What I'm anxious to do is evaluate him just like we're going to evaluate every player on our roster and see if they are the right fit for the Cleveland Browns,'' he said at his introductory press conference. "That's what we have to do with every player, whether that's Josh Gordon to whoever the last guy is on the roster.''

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2016/02/roger_goodell_needs_josh_gordo.html

good luck with that pot head.