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No the Browns have an obligation to help an employee who "allegedly" is under the influence of drugs, it is a law in many states. What Manziel did to Colleen is Manziel's responsibility, not the Browns. If he assaulted her as reported I hope she takes him to the cleaners, but I still hope Johnny gets the help he needs before he ends up dead.

It may not be their legal responsibility, but it is what is right. Screw Johnny, he's the kind of guy that beats up women. He gets what he deserves. He's been helped all his life. He pissed it all away. I have zero sympathy for a guy that has the world handed to him and instead of appreciating it he foolishly pisses it away. Add assaulting a woman to it.... As far as I'm concerned he's a POS unworthy of sympathy.

good. maybe the punk will get the help he needs in jail. dont drop the soap johnny......

As if a rich, white guy is going to go to jail for domestic violence.

Maybe he'll run with the affluenza defense, it worked once in Texas so far.

I hear ya D_LB.. He's on a path to self destruction and it's truly hard to watch. I went from thinking this kid is a punk to holy cow, this is a young man in real trouble.

I mean, wow. Talk about a downward spiral.

Domestic incidents seem to happen all the time with this kid and his ex. The Browns indicate (Kinda) that they'll deal with him in March, No teammates are standing up for him, in fact they seem to be distancing themselves.

$12,000 he has to pay his ex for legal fees, Lebron leaves him, his agents dumps him, his father thinks without help he could be dead before his next birthday, Haslam said they tried to reach out but he didn't return calls and now the the Dallas police have him under investigation.


No, I'm not going to pile on the kid anymore either, he's got enough on his plate. He needs help and I hope he wakes up in time to ask for it then accept it.

Really a shame, I hoped that he would maybe still have a career.

Doesn't look like it anymore.

Yes, unless the police witness an event, they have to investigate first. It doesn't happen quickly. But if she cooperates with Police and is convincing, he'll get arrested. It might be the best thing for him to be honest.

If the hotel valet confirms Crowley's story about being forced to go with Manziel against her will, JM could be in some serious trouble. I'm not an attorney or in law enforcement, but that sounds like kidnapping or something close to it.

Pardon my ignorance but what is "WFAA"

I imagine the W = women and one of the A's = abuse.

My heart and my prayers go out to Johnny's family, and his close friends. If y'all didn't notice I have avoided these threads on the kid, and you won't see me kicking the kid while he is down.

WFAA is the call letters of a news station in Dallas, TX.

Like here in Ohio we have WHLO, WKNR and so on.

As a fan, I hated drafting Manziel in the first place. I viewed as an entitled little jackass who was probably not going to be successful here.

As a human being, I certain hope and pray that the kid really does get the help that he needs. It's hard to believe how quickly his situation has turned to dire. It must be very painful for his parents who are doing everything they can to save his life. His dad's statement is very telling.

I wonder what kind of drug problems he is having. He obviously has a drinking problem, but the report said he was under the influence but not intoxicated. I suppose it doesn't matter. I just hope he figures it out soon.

Unless I'm mistaken, every station east of the Mississippi is started with a W and every station west of it starts with a K.

WFAA - Dallas, TX

Looks like I was way off on that one. I thought the comment was coming from a representative of some abused women's organization.

It is a well known psychological characteristic that we dislike in others that which we hate in ourselves. I'm reading from you that you have some deep, underlying issues that would behoove you to investigate, perhaps even to seek help yourself.

It's too bad. I feel nothing but sadness for him and everyone associated with him. I thought it was a mistake to draft him, then I thought maybe he could pull it off, and now back to realizing it was a mistake.

My only hope now is that this doesn't end very badly for him and those who love him.

That's how it is today but originally all started with a W and the stations still around that had a W west of the Mississippi got to keep their call letters.

There are exceptions such as KDKA in Pittsburgh. Something to do with Grandfathering the call signs. I used to know the reasons when I was a disc jockey and a radio engineer, but damn, that was 40 years ago and I just don't remember.


I just found this with a quick look

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29669/why-do-some-radio-stations-begin-k-and-others-w

Charlie Sheen is giving JF advice on getting his act together? I think it's now safe to say Johnny's hit rock bottom.

Kinda my thoughts.

It is scary.

A month or so ago, my mom told me about Sheen being on some doctors show, and he spoke about his problems, and some of the root causes. (physical and psychological) Evidently he is, finally, getting help. Maybe a guy at the bottom can reach a guy like Manziel before he hits rock bottom.

Very funny!

Sadly, he just might be the right guy to steer Manziel.. I mean, he knows the road pretty well.

It's DR OZ you can see all three interviews here.

http://www.doctoroz.com

I watched it on Dr Oz. It was pretty interesting. Charlie is getting his act together. The only part I didn't like was where Dr Oz was trying to convince Charlie he is bipolar. Charlie was polite about it but he wasn't really buying it.

Just my two cents but...Hitting rock bottom is what can really drive someone to actually make a change. Only Johnny will know when he has "had enough" and what his rock bottom is. Eventually hit a point you've burned yourself so bad that you don't want to ever touch the stuff again and THAT is when you actually GET help and you are willing to do the WORK to do change your life and stick with it. Charlie Sheen and everyone else likely will fall on deaf ears until Johnny is ready to listen to it... for some people, their rock bottom is death. Johnny is young and famous and has a ton of money (I am assuming he still has a ton of money) in his pockets... so I hope all of that doesn't stop him from cleaning up. Getting cleaned up at 23 would be hard.

Not for nothing, But I just saw on facebook that Von Miller tweeted support to Johnny Manziel and apparently, Johnny responded in some fashion.

That's actually good news right, it means he's still alive.

You read a Tweet!

If you see a painting in a book, are you looking at a painting?

Baby steps!

Attorney for Colleen Crowley: Johnny Manziel ruptured client's eardrum

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/147420...rum-lawyer-says

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Pat McManamonESPN Staff Writer



Johnny Manziel hit ex-girlfriend Colleen Crowley so hard that it ruptured her left eardrum, Crowley's attorney told Dallas-Fort Worth television station KXAS-Channel 5 on Monday.

"They expect [the ear] to heal, but it'll take a while," attorney Kathy Kinser told KXAS.

Manziel is the subject of a criminal investigation into the alleged assault that took place in the early hours of Jan. 30. Crowley spoke with Dallas police on Friday to file the complaint.

On Monday, Kinser told KXAS that Crowley still could not hear out of her ear.

Manziel told TMZ that the assault did not happen. A call to the attorney listed as Manziel's representation was not immediately returned.

A Dallas police spokesman said Monday there was nothing new to release on the investigation.

Crowley filed for a protective order last week in Tarrant County, Texas. The order was issued, and Manziel has to stay away from Crowley for two years.

A copy of Crowley's affidavit asking for protection was included in the KXAS story.

Included are the details that Crowley states led to her being hit in the left side of the head.

The affidavit states that Manziel dragged Crowley down some back steps to the hotel exit. As they passed a valet, Crowley states she pleaded with a valet as the pair left, saying: "Please don't let him take me. I'm scared for my life!" The valet responded he didn't know what to do.

Manziel took her to Crowley's car, where she states she got in the car's passenger seat "against my will." As he was backing up, she jumped out, ran across the street and hid in some bushes.

Manziel made a U-turn to where she was, grabbed her by her hair and threw her in the car.

"He hit me with his open hand on my left ear for jumping out of the car," the affidavit states. "I realized immediately that I could not hear out of that ear, and I cannot today [Feb. 3, the date of the filing]."

Crowley writes that the argument continued on the way to her apartment and in the apartment itself.

"I continue to be extremely concerned for my health and well-being," she wrote.

The judge issued the protective order Feb. 4, the day after Crowley's filing.

He may have won the Heisman trophy but I think he may be falling a bit short for the Walter Payton man of the year award.

Some additional information in this story... This is kinda crazy:

Johnny Manziel’s ex says he kidnapped her, ruptured eardrum during fight over another woman

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2016/02/...he-struck.html/

By Naomi Martin
Published: February 8, 2016 12:06 pm

Johnny Manziel’s ex-girlfriend said the NFL quarterback kidnapped and assaulted her during a fight over another woman last month in Dallas, at one point striking her so hard that she ruptured an eardrum and lost her hearing.

“They expect [her ear] to heal but it’ll take a while,” the ex’s Dallas attorney, Kathy Kinser, told our partners at KXAS-TV (NBC5).

Colleen Crowley, 23, filed an application for a protective order on Wednesday, shortly before her domestic violence allegations against the 23-year-old Cleveland Browns quarterback became public.

Crowley’s case in Tarrant County Family Court is sealed from the public, but NBC5 reported that Manziel signed the protective order, promising not to approach Crowley for two years and pay her attorney’s fees of $12,500.

Crowley’s affidavit, first obtained Monday by NBC5, reveals new details about her allegations, including that Manziel hit her, pulled her hair, kidnapped her, seized her phone and threatened to kill her and himself. She wrote that the violence came after the two, who had recently broken up, argued about another woman.

“The court finds there is reason to believe that family violence has occurred,” Judge Michael Sinha wrote in the court documents approving the protective order.

Even so, Manziel has not been arrested or charged. Crowley met with Dallas police on Friday and detectives searched for witnesses over the weekend, said Dallas Maj. Midge Boyle, who oversees domestic violence investigations. Fort Worth police are also investigating.

Manziel’s attorney, who NBC5 said was listed in the sealed court documents as Brad Beckworth of Austin, didn’t immediately return a call for comment. Calls to Manziel’s listed cell phone, his mother and his publicist weren’t immediately returned.

Though Manziel’s father has said that he’s concerned that Manziel needs to go to rehab to see his 24th birthday, Manziel denied the incident to TMZ, saying, “It didn’t happen. … I’m completely stable. I’m safe and secure.”


‘I’m scared for my life!’

In the four-page affidavit, Crowley described a disturbing account of abuse last month that began after a night of partying in Dallas. She wrote that she and Manziel had broken up in December after dating for two years and living together for four months in Cleveland.

That night, she went to dinner at Victor Tango’s with three friends and left around 11:15 p.m. They went bar-hopping for another hour and a half. She was texting with Manziel about an after-party at Hotel ZaZa in Uptown, and they agreed to meet up there.

She and Manziel were alone in his hotel room around 1:45 a.m. They discussed a rumor she had heard earlier in the week about “a girl who had caused us problems in the past,” Crowley wrote in the affidavit.

She told Manziel that if she slept over, she’d stay on the couch. He “threw me on the bed,” she wrote. He claimed he did it “‘playfully,’ but it frightened me and I took it seriously,” she wrote.

Crowley tried to leave the room, but Manziel “restrained” her, she wrote. She tried to fight him off, as she grew “very scared that he was going to hurt me,” she wrote.

Manziel continued restraining Crowley as he brought her to the hotel’s valet, she wrote. There, he allegedly forced her into his car, despite her pleas to the valet driver.

“Please don’t let him take me,” she told the valet, according to her affidavit. “I’m scared for my life!”

According to her affidavit, the valet replied, “I don’t know what to do,” and let Manziel “literally throw me in the front passenger seat,” then get into the driver’s seat.

‘Shut up or I’ll kill us both!’

Manziel drove her to her car at Concrete Cowboy and made her get in the passenger seat “against my will,” she wrote.

As Manziel backed out of the spot, Crowley wrote, she jumped out of the car, ran across the street and hid behind some bushes.

He made a U-turn, found her and grabbed her by the hair, throwing her into the car, she wrote.

“He hit me with his open hand on my left ear for jumping out of the car,” she wrote. “I realized immediately that I could not hear out of that ear, and I still cannot today.”

In self-defense, Crowley said, she hit Manziel several times, trying to get out of the car. But Manziel “threw me off of him,” causing her head to strike the car window, she wrote. She fell on the floor.

Manziel pulled her onto the seat, telling her to “Stop!” and wouldn’t give let her have her phone, she wrote.

Manziel drove onto Interstate 30 toward Crowley’s apartment in Fort Worth.

“I was crying and telling him, ‘I hate you! Just leave me alone! I hate you!’” she wrote.

Manziel said he was going to drop her off, take her car and “go kill himself,” she wrote. She worried he was on drugs or having a “psychotic break” so she started trying to calm him down by saying, “I love you,” she wrote. “We can figure this out, we can talk.”

Manziel “started laughing at this and I became really scared,” she wrote. She cried more, she wrote, and he told her, “Shut up or I’ll kill us both!”

She begged him not to kill her, she wrote, and he replied, “I would never kill you. You don’t deserve that. I would only kill myself!”

Trying to call for help

At her apartment in Fort Worth, they continued arguing, Crowley wrote. She kept asking Manziel for her phone, but he refused and told her she “wasn’t going to be talking to anyone right then,” she wrote.

He then smashed her phone on the tile in her apartment’s entrance, she wrote.

Next she tried her computer, thinking she could FaceTime her parents for help, she wrote. Manziel was outside pacing and returned to the apartment and asked if she had FaceTimed her parents.

“No,” she replied, according to the affidavit, and he told her she “had better not be lying to him.”

He went to her computer, she wrote, and saw that she had tried to FaceTime her parents.

“I became extremely scared as to what he might do,” she wrote. “I was in my kitchen so out of fear for my life, I pulled a knife out of my knife block and advanced toward him.”

Manziel ran out of the apartment, she wrote. She threw the knife down and followed to make sure he was gone. She saw him still in the parking lot so she banged on her neighbor’s door for help, she wrote.

“I continue to be extremely concerned for my health and well-being,” she wrote.

Based on the suicide threat, Manziel should be committed. I dont know if it takes a judges order or what. Its pretty scary and sad though.

If his father also makes a plea for treatment, I could see a court ordered treatment as well.

Her pressing charges might actually save the kid's life.

This was my exact thought.

Haven't really chimed in on JFF the last few days but want to echo what most are saying here - this stopped being about football. When forced to think about JFF because of news or posts here I really do not connect him with being a Cleveland QB as I see him getting dropped as a foregone conclusion. This is about keeping him on this side of the grass.

Whoever said that this is him screaming for help and no one is giving it to him ... I don't think so. As was pointed out, his family has tried to get him into rehab twice recently. He is an adult and cannot be forced to without a court order. Nothing will work unless he wants it to. If he recovers it will be a long road and he is the one who has to put in the work and effort. He has not shown he was willing to put in the effort at his multi-million dollar job, how likely is going to want to put in the effort to stop doing the thing he loves above all? He obviously has addictions, and the partying lifestyle seems to be one of those.

The red flags were there and the team ignored them and drafted him. No one can be surprised there was a circus, but I think the extent of it caught everyone off guard. We need to write this off as another wasted pick and move on. JFF's saga is no longer about football, it's about a young, immature kid who needs to see that he needs help and accept it. A court forcing him into rehab likely won't do it, he needs to see he needs to do it and not be forced into it.

I really hope he straightens out and gets his life back on track. I do not know how likely that will be.