DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Tailgate Forum As the Cavs World Turns, Part Deux

Originally Posted By: Spergon FTWynn
Originally Posted By: leadtheway
Originally Posted By: Spergon FTWynn
Originally Posted By: candyman92
Kyrie and Lebron have been awful shooting 3's this year, no idea why.


Lebron's bad outside shooting stems all the way back from the playoffs last year.

When he launches from 3 I have no confidence in his shot.


if you made a drinking game with everytime fred says "Lebron for 3....off the back of the rim" you'd be completely hammered..lebron has one skill, driving to the rim, thats why his career will be shorter. Or I should say his relevance will be shorter compared to MJ. MJ could shoot, as he got older developed a more consistent deep ball and learned how to post up. Lebron refuses to work on his game in that way, or he's just not capable. But everytime he shoots, it was the same feeling I'd get when DA would drop back to pass


You're starting to see teams back off when he shoots. He's never going to be among the top 3pt guys in the league, but he was much better than he is right now. That's what made him so tough to guard because his shot used to keep a defender honest, and now they just play the dribble drive.

It's not even shot selection. There is something physically wrong with his shot.



His form is probably some of the worst I've seen.. he leans either right or back on his shots, he rarely goes straight up through the shoulders..it's amazing coaching hasn't seen it on film.

That's why he is a horrible free throw shooter. He is always leaning back and off center. It still amazes me how professional basketball players can be such atrocious shooters from the charity stripe. As a high school basketball player, I averaged 93% over the four years. Of course, I shoot 100-200 every night in the dark. It's muscle memory for crissake!! These guys should be able to do it with their eyes closed...

Here is a quote from LeBron:



Full article here: http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index.ssf/2016/02/lebron_james_i_could_care_less.html

For a guy who says the 3 is not his game............he sure takes a lot of them.

Kings are quite the enigma. Cousins is the best center in the NBA. Rudy Gay and Rondo can play at a high level too.

Seems to me he should care about all aspects of his game. Does he also not care about free throws? Because they surely arent his game either.

From what I've seen from Lue, you can tell there's a LOT of Doc Rivers influence on his offensive system.

Kinda what I was getting at, Eve. These guys are supposed to be the best of the best and can barely hit 50% of their shots uncontested from a set distance? It would be different if the refs just picked a random spot on the floor and said shoot it from here. It seriously is just muscle memory. I knew when I missed a shot short or to the left or right. I didn't feel right coming out of my hand.

that missed dunk by mosgov. lmao

That was a fun game to watch.

Kings are the NBA equivalent of the Browns. Complete dumpster fire.

Theres talk of Gay being available at the deadline, also have us as a potential landing spot..i think he'd thrive here

I would think that other teams could give a better return than the Cavaliers. I would love to see him on the Cavaliers, but I just don't see how it all works out. Maybe a 3 way trade, or something? Stranger things have happened, and Griffin is adept at getting his guy(s).

Because he doesn't pass and takes long twos?

j/c:

Didn't see the game, but man, it looks like they blew them out. The Kings should be much better than they are. That team confounds me.

Any breakdowns on the game???

Kyrie actually acted like a point guard for a change, he had 10 assist.

Lebron had a triple double, his jumpers were actually falling.

And jr smith man.... Dude is just balling out of control.

Oh, and TT was giving them fits on the boards, as usual. Nothing special, we simply just had the better talent.

Oh yea, our bench decided to show up for a change.

Kings are a hot dumpster fire.

Thanks. Who covered Cousins most of the time? Man, he usually puts up way bigger numbers than that.

I had both Kyrie and Rondo in Fantasy BB. Both were hugely successful and helped me win cash. Thanks fellas. LOL

People are all excited here about the win yesterday and I'm like, dudes, we let a crappy team that's lost back to back to back to put up 100 points and pretty much lingered around the game and even took the lead here and there.

This team is not a championship team. Will we get there? Maybe. Can we get there? Yes, we have the proper elements in place. But currently, I'm sorry but this team has a long ways to go IMO.

Combo of TT and Mosgov,, and boogie was getting pretty much whatever he wanted first half, second half he got into foul trouble and just lost interest in the game and doing dumb stuff he's known for. That team is bad, i didn't feel good about that game at all. They are like 76ers bad. Yet we still gave up 100. Kyrie with 32pts and 11 assists was a great all around game for him, and Lebron actually for the first game this year didn't seem to try to do too much and let it come to him and picked his spots. But they have Zero ability to defend anyone so I take it with a grain of salt. The Chicago rematch is what i'm going to be watching closely.

Thanks for the info.

Lue started giving guys like mo and Andy some pt.

However I see that Delly isn't playing much. And Cunningham is still riding the bench.

Delly has missed the last four games with hamstring problem, henceforth why we're seeing PT for Mo.

Tells you how much I pay attention. Didn't even know he was injured

j/c:









http://hoopshype.com/team/cleveland-cavaliers/

Atlanta selling off pieces?

from ECF to fire sale? jeez.

If the Cavs trade for Tyreke Evans they are doomed.

I view Tyreke the same way as JR (without the headaches). He's been on bad teams his entire career. He has talent, he just hasn't been "raised" correctly.

Holy crap. You guys hear about Blake Griffin?

Just that he got suspended for four games.

The last thing the Cavs need is to try and train another guy how to play team basketball.

Why? It's worked pretty well for JR.

Evans is the ultimate ball stopper. He won't pass the ball to Anthony freaking Davis. He also plays no defense. How many of those can the Cavs have?

There's a lot of bad eastern conference teams. I don't see a single team that's a true threat to us. I know we as fans like to panic, but we need to also realize our conference is bad and we're going to be making the finals frequently because of it.

The only team that even has a small chance is Toronto. But I think there are three teams in the west that are clearly better than the Cavs.

If the NBA actually switches to a conference free playoffs format, it would royally screw the Cavs.

Like who?

Better than the Cavs in the west? Warriors, Spurs, and Thunder. Especially in a seven game series. Popovich and Kerr would run circles around Lue.

but you said east in your post. i was confused.

I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you high?

Google Durants record vs Lebron. Google Kyrie Irvings stats vs Westbrook. If a OKC vs Cleveland series took place, I know where my money's going and I'm going to break bank if Vegas feels the same way as you. You have zero basis for OKC being better than Cleveland other than current overall record right now.

Here I'll make it a little easier

Lebron vs Durant
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...mp;p2=jamesle01

Kyrie vs Westbrook
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play...mp;p2=westbru01

What does that prove?