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Brock Oswieler is currently scheduled to be a FA.

FAs are allowed to be signed by other teams.

We are another team.

What, at this time, is impossible about that?

I dont think he will tread any where near Brett Favre territory..

But a month is not a really long amount of time to decided whether or not you want to quit playing football.

You think he hasn't already put a considerable amount of thought to this?

So what you are saying is that Manning could royally screw the Broncos if he wants to.

Its one of those things, I think that either you decide before the SB yes or no..

But if you cant decide, then it takes time..

Using the game itself, win or lose, to help you decide is IMO a terrible idea. (Not saying he would)

He's decided. He's just not going to take away the spotlight from Denver or his teammates right now. He'll announce his retirement soon enough. He's the ultimate pro.

Archie already said in an interview that if Peyton plays again, it will be for somebody other than Denver. My guess is he's already had this conversation with Elway and they know Denver isn't going to keep him and pay him his contract value.

I have no idea why Peyton would want to come back and go out on a 4-12 season instead of just using this and walking away.

My guess is that one of Miller or Osweiler gets a long term deal, the one who doesn't gets tagged.

They're going to lose some talent regardless. Vernon Davis, Malik Jackson, Danny Trevathan, I believe both RBs and a few Dbs are all FA. They're going to lose a lot - they need to decide which guys they want to keep and which they gamble on.

Interestingly, they have no 3rd QB and non on the practice roster. That makes me agree that Osweiler stays in Denver.

It makes no sense for him to retire before March 9th.

On March 9th his entire $19 mil salary becomes fully guaranteed for a $21.5 mil cap hit to the Broncos.

Also Manning just earned $4 mil in bonuses for making it to and winning the Superbowl and I don't think that was counted in the original $10 mil of free cap money.

Besides Brock, about half of their defense is in Free Agency as well.

If you tag Brock, then you are letting Von Miller walk for example.

The Broncos have some cap hell to figure out and they have about a month to do it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but NFL salaries are not guaranteed in retirement. Manning might receive a roster bonus if he were to hang around, but not his guaranteed salary.

Even that seems unlikely to me though. Manning has tons of respect throughout the league, and is probably worth hundreds of millions. Is it worth blowing his good image to pick up a couple of millions? I doubt it.

Manning has a chance to write his perfect exit from the league, in a graceful and dignified manner. I doubt he wants to go out appearing to chase the last buck.

Manning will pick up his Super Bowl bonus, and that will count against the Broncos 2016-17 cap, but I don't see him doing anything beyond that.

If they keep both Miller and Osweiler, they are going to have to find another $10 mil to $15 mil somewhere. That's without signing anyone else. Miller's going to get at least $20 mil and Brock is going to get $15 mil.

Remember, the Broncos went back to Manning as soon as he could play

Peyton Manning expected to return Sunday with new job he's never had


After seven weeks off, Broncos quarterback back Peyton Manning is expected to return to the field Sunday. However, he won't be getting his old job back.

Broncos coach Gary Kubiak announced Wednesday that Manning will serve as the Broncos' backup quarterback against the Chargers if he doesn't have any setbacks with his health this week.

"[Manning] being healthy is a great thing for this football team, him being available," Kubiak said via the Broncos website. "It's the next step we need to take. He hasn't played in [nearly two] months."

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As recently as three weeks ago, Kubiak had said that Manning would be the starter when he returned; however, that won't be the case. The Broncos coach made it clear that there's no quarterback controversy in Denver and that Brock Osweiler will remain the team's starting quarterback.

"Brock's our quarterback -- nothing has changed from that standpoint," Kubiak said. "[Osweiler's] our guy. He's doing a hell of a job. We'll keep moving forward."

The move means that Manning will serve as a backup quarterback for the first time in his 18-year career. Manning has been the starter in each of the 265 regular-season games in which he has played over that span.

Not to mention, at $15 million, Manning will be an expensive backup.

Kubiak's decision to make Manning the backup Sunday could obviously backfire if Osweiler struggles against San Diego.

The Broncos have a lot on the line -- they could drop to the AFC's sixth seed with a loss -- and if Osweiler were to throw one or two interceptions in the first half against the Chargers, fans might start booing him and start clamoring for Manning.

The Broncos were in a similar situation in Week 10. Manning was benched for Osweiler after a disastrous two-and-a-half quarters against the Chiefs where he threw four interceptions.

As for this week, Manning sounds like he's ready to accept his new role.

"I will do what I can to help Brock and the team," Manning said on Wednesday.

Over the weekend, Manning had said he would like to start, but he also added that he would do what's "best for the team."

"I got to do whatever coach feels is best for the team," Manning said. "It's been an interesting year, I'm not going to lie about that. I've had a good attitude about it. ... I've learned a lot about myself. I've been a good teammate. I've tried to help Brock in anyway I can. It's new to me. It's new to me. So I'll do whatever is best for the team come next week."

Although Osweiler might not get benched during the game Sunday, Kubiak did leave the door slightly open for a possible Manning return in the postseason if Osweiler should struggle.

"If something would change, the players would know first and you all would know second," Kubiak said Monday. "I told you guys that this week, but our football team is moving forward. Our mindset right now goes to San Diego and we've got to get ourselves good and freshened up, ready to play."

The bottom line though is that unless Osweiler gets hurt, we've probably seen the last of Manning as a starter in a Broncos uniform, which means he's going to have to decide if it's time to retire or try and give it one more season with another team.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foot...b-hes-never-had

The Broncos currently have nearly $11 million available going into the off -season.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

If they just cut Manning and Ryan Clady they will have nearly $39 million in cap room.

http://overthecap.com/calculator/denver-broncos/

The cap will also go up a bit (probably about $10 million). So that's $49 million.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/05/nfl-salary-cap-will-rise-above-150-million-in-2016/

The Broncos won't be able to re-sign some of their players, but Miller and Osweiler will be on the Broncos next year one way or another.

I hope this thread gets ...

You think he hasn't already put a considerable amount of thought to this?

When all the Superbowl talk dies down

then he can announce his retirement.

With that said, why do we even want Osweiler? What has he proven to deserve the money he is about to get?

He's sat on the bench for 3.5 years, bro. Pretty much a guaranteed all-pro. We gotta get this guy before someone else benches him!

The Broncos would release him before that would happen. Which would be a $2.5 mil cap hit. (Not sure how the $4 mil bonus he just earned figures in to that though)

So that $10 mil they have would be $26.5 mil or maybe only $22.5 mil if they cut Peyton. (depending on if they have to still account for the bonus) I could see Peyton decide that he still wants to make multiple millions and wait for Denver to cut him and sign a 1 or 2 year deal with the Rams or Texans at $25 mil per year. Why not? He could still decide to retire later if he wanted to.

No doubt, but Manning has been above board since his college days.

Well, our line is better than denvers.

I wonder thought if hue can do something about his mechanics? He's so tall that when he throws to the WRs, the ball is always getting there low.

Maybe the Browns are putting the interest out there so Denver spends their money on Brock, and some of their FA defenders slip through the cracks?

It is silly season, after all.

I think if the Broncos let Brock leave, that would tell me all I need to know about the guy.