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We already have Kirksey (Horton said he thinks he's a starter), we can't have Kirksey and Laurinaitis.



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This isn't a problem you worry about; it's the kind you welcome.
If Laurenitis is good enough to keep Kirksey on the bench, or if he can displace Dansby, then so be it. The goal is to get better as a team, not protect egos.

If he fits, we signs.

I agree. I don't think he fits.

That is the real question when you pick up a #2 WR with decent stats. Some had their stats kept down because they were playing behind somebody like AC Green.. others couldn't get open without AC Green on the other side commanding more attention... not sure which Sanu is...

But I have a feeling we will pursue a number of Bengals.

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lets see...we released Jim Dray, and Rams just let 28 yr old Jared Cook go...we need another TE so give him a look...I would be ok with it

I just say give Bibbs a shot, showed a little promise in preseason last year. I'd be ok with him and Barnidge.

j/c:

Regarding some of the posts since I last checked:

--Sanu is okay. I wanted him in the draft. I thought he would be more productive than he has been. I do think he could help the Browns in the red zone. Has a large frame and can seal off defenders.

--Long would help the DL.

--Laurenitis is a quality LBer and would really help the Browns.

--Kirksey sucks. Should be a special teams guy.

I've read in several reports that both Marvin Jones and Mohammed Sanu are targets for the Browns. One writer said to look for Marvin Jones to be a 12:05 AM signing by the Browns on the first day of free agency. If Gordon is re-instated and we sign those two guys, our WR corps is immediately professional grade - no need to use draft picks there.

I also think Long and Laurinaitis would be great additions to the defense. Long could play opposite Kruger, and Laurinaitis could replace either ILB.

Long is not an outside linebacker in a 3-4. That dude is built to be a 3-4 defensive end.

Would love to get Jones. If we can't get Sanu, I bet we draft a guy like Braxton Miller for Hue to try and use similarly.

j/c

"During a three-game stretch replacing injured A.J. Green as Cincinnati's top wideout, Sanu caught 15 passes for 299 yards and one touchdown." Alex Marvez

Sanu is grossly underutilized in Bengals offense. Hue likes more vertical stretch. Marvin Jones has more speed and a better fit for the Browns. Getting Sanu most definitely helps in the red zone. Barnidge, Sanu, and Benjamin...maybe Gordon...make a nice threat in the red zone.

Laurinaitis is a good field general on defense. One thing I didn't understand with the Rams defense was it disappeared throughout the season. Maybe Laurinaitis lost a step. Maybe the defense around got better and needed better from the MLB spot. One thing is certain he is smart and high motor. He isn't the fastest guy so switching to a 3-4 maybe the thing.

Chris Long has come off two or three years of injuries. Durability maybe his issue.

Cook, I would forget about. Guy can ball, when he wants to. Otherwise, you won't see him for several games.

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Gordon
Jones
Benji
Hartline
Hawkins
Barnidge
Duke

Goff or Wentz will have weapons immediately.

Of course he doesn't fit in Cleveland. He's a talented linebacker and we are swimming in them.... lol

Are you serious man? Our linebacking corp is a shambles. Dansby used to be a quality player but he's not getting any younger. He's lost a couple steps. So unless we DRAFT a couple quality inside linebackers, signing a guy like Animal Jr. is a GRAND Idea.

We really need FOUR new starters at LB. You say Kirksey is going to stud out? GREAT. When will he start playing like it?
This new front office better figure out a way to seriously upgrade our linebacking corp. Signing JL seems a really good start to me. If Chris Long wasn't hurt so often I'd sign him too.

This defense completely depends on the linebackers to play at a very high level. It is VITAL we upgrade the talent at the position across the board.

In the games in which I saw Laurunaitis play last year, including against us, he didn't look as quick to the point of attack as he has been in the past. I think that speed at ILB is becoming more and more important, especially in coverage.

Plus, Laurinaitus will be 30 this season, and the analytics probably don't have him coming in here. He will probably wind up with the Giants, and Steve Spagnolo.

I think the decision to part ways w/Laurunatis was strictly due to financial reasons and not him slipping as a player. I did read that he wants to go to a title contender though. That would rule the Browns out.

Long is a similar story, but I believe he also battled injuries.

Yeah, I realize that. I was referring to Horton saying that Kruger would be playing less in coverage and more in pass rush mode, which I assume means from a 3-point stance. They would be more like bookend DEs in a 4-3 in that scheme, with Des Bryant and John Hughes or Danny Shelton at the DTs.

JC

Jared Cook's Wiki page says he's 6-5, 254 lbs, and runs a 4.49 40 (can that be right?). I thought I remembered him scoring against us on a long catch-and-run, and sure enough, he did. Caught an 80 yard TD against us in 2011. I remember being stunned that nobody ran him down.

j/c:

I've been thinking why would the Rams need to clear that much money. All of those guys can still play.

Wouldn't it be ironic if the Rams signed RGIII?

Cook dropped a LOT of passes for the Rams.

I think they're trying to re-sign both their corners. RG3 on the rams would be an interesting way for that Draft trade to work out.

I also think the Rams like their younger guys better at those positions. It's better to get rid of an expensive vet too soon rather than too late. Get the young guys reps.

It would be a total Fisher move for sure, even as a backup. Guy never passes up an opportunity to be an a hole.

I just don't think Laurinaitis (my computer suggested Urinalysis as a replacement for Laurinaitis) has the physical tools necessary to succeed in a 3-4.

I remember Johnathan Vilma was a great middle linebacker for the Jets under Herm Edwards. Like best in the league great. Edwards was traded to the Chiefs and the Jets hired Mangini who switched to the 3-4. Vilma was terrible to the point that he was traded (and replaced by David Barton and David Harris). He went to New Orleans and became great again (especially under Gregg Williams).

Laurinaitis and Vilma are similar players to me. Even the defenses they have been good in are similar.

Vilma weighed in at 230 at the combine in 2004. Laurinaitis is currently listed at 248. My guess is that Vilma played near 248 during his career as well.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=1742044

Either way, my guess is that our new front office won't be too interested in signing older players to long term deals. That right there rules out Laurinaitis.

If that is true, they are as dumb as the old guys. Long and Larunatis can play football and would help a defense that stinks.

Man, some of you guys act like the Browns are loaded w/talent. Their talent SUCKS!!! Upgrades are needed.

isn't Chris Long a 4-3 mlb? how good a fit would he really be in a base 3-4?

He's played all along in a 4-3 over his entire career.

It's not just about one year.

I'm going to be interested in watching to see if Sanu is interested in playing for Hue.. that should tell us a little bit.

Long was primarily a DE in the Rams 4-3. He could play in Horton's defense, as could Laurinatis. Both would be help the Browns for years.

What would it tell us?

I'd look for Long to end up in Carolina to fill for Jared Allen, and Laurenitis to head to Green Bay, so Clay can move back outside. I can't see either wanting to come here without backing up a Brinks truck.