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yea, they are starting to cave from public pressure already

Just watch. Obama will not appoint a new SC Justice.

you said obama wasn't gonna pass the ACA either.

or win the 2012 election.

or get the iranian deal done.

you might wanna stop making predictions.

Just watch and learn.

HA! Right. "Don't believe me just watch" Thanks Bruno.

Wouldn't it be just hilarious if Obama, in order to stick it to the Senate, nominated a Conservative for SC Justice and the Senate jumped right on it and approved him in just days.

Watch the game, enjoy.

And that's what the GOP has turned it into, a game.

If they continue down this path it will cost them dearly. Independent votes decide elections, not Dems and Rep voters. That's a well known fact.

You know some independents? What are they saying?

I do know a few. In every case that I know they feel failing to even go through the process of vetting a Supreme Court Justice is a failure of the Senate to do their job and is a purely a political game.

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not saying or indicating that the senate has any real obligation to approve a Supreme Court nominee of Obama. But they do hold the duty of having those hearings and either approving or denying the nomination.

So I'm not screaming they need to approve whoever Obama nominates, but for God's sake quit looking like a spoiled child who refuses to even go through the process like every senate in the history of our nation has done.

In all honesty, for the sake of the party you so heavily support, I would think you would want the same thing. Let's face it, you would still come out with the next president making the appointment and it would look much better on your party.

he was taking a shot at you bro.

Oh, I know that. Just trying to add some logic to the conversation. lol

Anymore, that's ALL politics is/are - a game. The person/party that plays it best gets elected.

Let's look at hillary. She's as unqualified as my left toe to be president. She's cheated, lied, broken pretty much every rule there is for you and I, yet she's the dem. favorite.

I don't see many redeeming factors in any of the candidates (especially her), but, money talks.

Any candidate does and will say anything the deem necessary to get elected. And, just as Obama has done on the SC thing, they'll change their mind at the drop of a hat.

Gutless bunch of fence-riders.
They need a pep talk from 40.

I don't disagree with a word you said Arch.

The only real difference I see here is it isn't a "politician" such as is the case with Hillary. This is an entire elected body of our government skirting their elected duty to hold hearings on a Supreme Court appointment.

It will look very ugly to voters and could hold severe consequences come election time.

It's Politics; a game is all it ever is to any of them.

I agree with you. the only problem is that we, the American people, seem to be ok with being the willing pawns in that game...

Look at the candidates, all of them, then look at how ferociously people on this board are willing to defend some of them and attempt to denigrate others..... but we are told those are our choices, so we pick one and then build an argument to suit it.

Trump is a clown, Cruz is all over the map and just an all around scary dude, Hillary is a lying backstabbing monster, and Bernie.. well about the only thing Bernie has accomplished in his life is winning a senate seat in a state where he probably knows everybody who voted for him personally.

If I had to pick one to watch my child I'd pick Grandpa Bernie, if I had to pick one to be President, I'll just weep and wonder why we can't do better than that.

I just don't understand how those who support the GOP can't see how risky it is to have an entire elected body refusing to do their duty won't hurt them.

The only people who support refusing to even hold hearings are hard line Republicans and they're going to need a lot more support than that to win a presidential election.

Well you never cried this loud when the Democrats did it...

THE WHITE HOUSE says President Obama believes his 2006 decision to filibuster the nomination of Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court was a mistake – after being accused of hypocrisy for blasting Senate Republicans for vowing to block his next high court nominee.

Gee, didn't seem to hurt him as the Independents and you lined up to vote him in as Prez, twice!

Pit, the first step to recovery is admitting you are a Left Leaning Democrat like Clem.

In 2006, Obama was just another dem hanging out in the crowd doing what his party told him to do.. now he's out on a limb by himself and they are threatening to do unto him the same things he once did ... I will give him credit for admitting that was a mistake but let's just saying the timing of his admission seems just a bit.. calculated.

Hey! ...that's 'center-left' active voter, thank you very much.

D sometimes, R at others- especially in local elections, where I actually know some of the candidates....

I forgive him , now let him shut up cuz he ain't getting another SC appointment for the rest of his life!

Oh, Pa-Leez! There are no Left Leaning Republicans for you to vote for!

I guess I'm going to have to completely change my view on gun rights and illegal immigration then!

You misunderstand.

In local politics, I actually KNOW R's from my job. I know them to be good folk who can get things done, so I don't mind voting for them. They don't actually have to lean anywhere to gain my support. Just do your job well.

See how that works?

Just give it time.

Perfect, I believe you use the term RIGHT incorrectly. It is really misleading to say the President has a RIGHT to appoint a Supreme Court Justice. The President has a duty to nominate someone for the open position. It is not a right.

Beware the person who claims rights instead of duties. A teenager may tell you they have a right to do whatever they want. Or tell their parent that they do not have a right to tell them what to do. People who claim rights often mean they want to do something without having to face any consequences. The President has a duty to nominate. The Senate has a duty to advise and consent or to not consent. The President has no RIGHT to have his nominee approved for the position. The Senate has no RIGHT to deny the President his duty to nominate someone for the position. The Senate does have a duty to advise the President on possible nominees. The Senate does have a duty to consent or not consent a nominee. The Senate has no RIGHT to choose the nominee for the President.

All to often when people claim a right. They claim this right that requires another to act as a duty in order to fulfill their right.

what

Oh sure, you vote one Republican for dog catcher and now your a Moderate!

Speaking of dog catchers - my neighbors dog has taken a liking to pooping in my yard. Did it again today.

He's got a rude awakening coming.

[insert wry, ironic chuckle here]


I caught the wink at the end of your post... so I'll let it slide.
The 'smart old fish' can always see the hook inside the worm.




No 'War & Peace'- length essay tonight.
Suffice it to say, I've voted for a number of council members and others over the years who sported an R beside their names.

I really am more about integrity and Real Choice than I am party affiliation. Matter of fact, I don't remember EVER voting a straight party ticket since I turned 18.

My problem is a black cat that roams the neighborhood. We are birders, and the damn thing's tried to claim our backyard as its hunting grounds. It's not feral. It has a collar, and always looks cared-for. We just have some irresponsible owner in the 'hood who lets the damn thing out to roam the yards every day. Bella kept it at bay for 2-3 years until the surgeries, but now we can't leave her outside unattended. All three surgeons and my family vet have strongly advised against it... just in case her spinal condition is chronic.

I wish we still had Miss Tillie Howliday... girl was a lover, but a stone-cold predator in the back yard. Fast, smart, laser-focused- and deadly.

The neighbor or the dog?

Both. Honey badger don't play that.

Read almost if not all of the posts in this thread and I think what is missing here is that the American people for some time now have debated who is the cause of grid lock in Washington (why can't we get anything done).

When the Republican leadership comes out and says that they will NOT confirm any nomination for the SC put forward by Obama they step squarely into the cross hairs and confirm their roll as the source of the do nothing Congress we have.

But for me its like this. Obama was elected by the American people (twice). Like it don't like it that's the simple truth. As such the American people chose his policies over the policies of the GOP again like it don't like it that's just the way it is. Based on that sole reason alone the total lack of respect is alarming especially so when the GOP is constantly pouting about the Constitution and how Obama doesn't uphold the Constitution, and better yet the fact that Obama was elected twice to the presidency, which believe it or NOT has a lot to do with the will of the PEOPLE. When the GOP fails to bend to the will of the people they aren't doing their jobs and now we know beyond all doubt who and why we can't get legislation passed that would benefit those same people.

Between the poor group of candidates put forward by the GOP, and their obvious disregard for the peoples choices the GOP has set itself on a course of self destruction, its so bad they are eating each other, and its funny and sad to see this once great party self destruct.

IN the end they are saying NO to Obama because he is black period, it has always been about race with Obama although to Obama's credit he has never used the race card.

Hell he hadn't been in office for more then a few days before the GOP began blaming the economy on him. It didn't fool me, and I don't believe for a moment it fooled the American people.

When I look back and think about the depth and scope of the problems this country faced upon Obama's election its amazing we have made the progress we have. This IS NOT hey GB is to blame for everything, only the most ignorant members wouldn't at least consider that his policies and lack of accounting skills led us over the cliff.

For the record Clintons deregulation of the wall street and the banking industry caused the collapse of the economy in 2007, that is a undisputable FACT. Bush wasn't innocent by any stretch though, he stood in front of congress in one of his state of the union addresses and said that home ownership was the highest it had ever been a claim he had NOTHING to do with, and he should have ended the policy which was nothing more then a pyramid scheme. In fact one could argue he did nothing to fix what Clinton had FU. Bottom line though Bush was blamed for something he didn't do but when the pyramid scheme was playing out under his watch he failed and worse yet he took credit for it.

But on top of all of that he started 2 wars one of which was based on him being extremely ignorant or lies everyone can decide for themselves which one they choose to believe. That said he DID NOT cause 911 nor did Clinton, nor any other American. Osama and his band of murderers did the deed there simply is no American to BLAME.

The problems we now face in the Middle East are a direct result of Bushes ignorance period. No one else to blame. He didn't mean to cause ISIS but he did. While he was trumpeting freedom being on the march, and the Arab spring ISIS was born, as a result of the vacuum he created by invading Iraq.

But I digress, I think the GOP needs to once again read the Constitution and do their job. They as a party are so damned ignorant. If Obama puts forward a candidate that is not qualified to sit on the court then reject the candidate, but now after this whole thing has been dragged out into the light they have placed themselves into a no win situation, fail to vet or hold hearings be viewed as obstructionists by the American voter, have legitimate concerns about the candidate and still be viewed as obstructionist. Confirm a qualified candidate and be viewed as soft and unprincipled and watch the few votes they will get disappear.

Being an effective senator or congressmen is about being able to compromise not about standing on principles or based on your relationship with God therefore your ideas are the only good ideas. And better yet use it as an excuse to do nothing

The GOP is killing itself and to be honest I don't get it. WHY come off as so know it all when its clear to the most casual observer you have no clue

Their lack of compassionate social policy sure doesn't help the party, either.

They bicker about Obama, but both parties serve the same corporate interests. We're a plutocracy run by the elite few who control most of the wealth in America.

Biggest load of one sided vision and Propaganda I have read in a long time.

At least try to look at things honestly.

Why did we end up with a do nothing Congress and a Dictator like President who rules by decree?

From the beginning, Obama has told this Congress it is my way or the highway, he refused to negotiate on anything. Congress took the highway and did nothing on his programs. He went around them and they shut him down as much as possible. Also, the President would send his budget to the House and they would say, "whoa, you are spending way too much money here" so they would make changes and send it on to the Senate where Democrat Harry Reid would put it on his desk without further consideration, to die. Now the Liberal Press would start their part in all this by crying "the Republicans are shutting down the Government. History will see all this with clear eyes.

The Democrat Congress is just as at fault as the Bush administration in the handling of what was going on, leading up to the great recession. Bush lacked oversight while the Democrats in Congress changed the rules so everyone could buy a home, whether they could afford it or not. They thought the rising home prices would lift those purchases up to safety and of course it failed.

In the meantime, the Banks were running wild with Derivative trading unseen by the Congress or the administration.

Like it or Don't, many of those who voted for Obama are having second thoughts as his approval rating is in the low 40's.

Like it or Don't the People have given us a Republican House and a Republican Senate which is the true thinking of "We the People" when it comes to approval of Obama's performance.

First, he has played the race card.. not much, but he has.. then again, he has so many people playing it for him, that's it not really necessary for him to play it himself..

Second, if this is the case, then why have congresses and Presidents of opposite parties hated each other for decades? You want me to believe that all of Obama's problems with congress are race related by all of the democrats problems with Bush were ideology based? That just defies logic. Is race a part of it? Yes.. is the D behind his name a bigger part of it? Yes.. Is the fact that he comes across as extremely arrogant and unlikable another big part of it? Yes...

Honestly you make it sound as if republicans would have be just fine with gay marriage, amnesty for illegals, higher taxes, and universal healthcare if a white democrat had proposed them... and that's just total BS.

Most people hate Bush on this Board because he is White.

No, no, no.. when they make memes of President Bush comparing him to monkey faces, and laugh when an Iraqi throws a shoe at him... and when they show Donald Trump in pictures beside Adolph Hitler.... or when people post tweets about dancing and defalcating on the grave of Justice Scalia, it's out of loving ideological concern for the country.

When you say you think Obamacare sucks.. you are a racist.

I thought it was, if you're white, your're a racist.