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We reached the Tim Couch argument portion of the off-season much sooner than we usually do.


We gotta get that guy!


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Ravens expected to sign Trent Richardson

Can't wait to see the coming comments hehe!

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Ravens expected to sign Trent Richardson

Can't wait to see the coming comments hehe!
man I hope they sign and make him the starter...talk about reaching for a player...


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Ravens expected to sign Trent Richardson

Can't wait to see the coming comments hehe!


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Tim did not suck



You are being a revisionist. The guy sucked. I mean sucked ass.


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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Tim did not suck



You are being a revisionist. The guy sucked. I mean sucked ass.


Tebow?

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Tim did not suck



You are being a revisionist. The guy sucked. I mean sucked ass.


Tebow?



Oh...so what is that, a cheap shot? LOL....whatever dude.....Couch sucked.


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Tim did not suck



You are being a revisionist. The guy sucked. I mean sucked ass.


Tebow?



Oh...so what is that, a cheap shot? LOL....whatever dude.....Couch sucked.




I just saw the part about Tim.

Yeah, Couch sucked.

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On Wednesday, the San Francisco 49ers announced that they planned to keep quarterback Colin Kaepernick for the 2016 season. On Thursday, it was reported that Kaepernick's agent asked the 49ers for a trade. Kaepernick was benched by the 49ers last season in favor of Blaine Gabbert. While Kaepernick is a great fit for Chip Kelly's offensive system, it appears that Kaepernick wants out.

The 49ers likely won't cut Kaepernick, meaning the only way a team can acquire him is via a trade. Kaepernick signed a length contract with the 49ers before the 2014 season and is signed through 2020. However, the contract has little guaranteed money after this season. Kaepernick's cap hit for next season is nearly $16 million, with roughly $12 million of that coming as a base salary. For more on Kaepernick,

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It's clear the Johnny Manziel Era was a complete disaster for the Browns. The Browns need a new franchise QB, as Josh McCown is a replacement-level start. However, he'd be a good veteran presence for Kaepernick, something he lacked in San Francisco. The Browns might be able to get Kaepernick for a mid-to-late rounder, which would allow them to spend their first rounder on a weapon that they need. Plus, current Browns head coach Hue Jackson wanted Kaepernick when he was with the Oakland Raiders. If Kaepernick is dealt, then the Browns might be the most likely option

http://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/here-are-4-teams-could-trade-49ers-qb-colin-kaepernick-27017

another QB option in FA, but not really a Kap. fan tho...but hey it's the off season and I need to entertain myself with some sort of football chat. Could be just me but I think I remember Kap has some accuracy issues...not sure never really payed attention to him


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Kap is a Baseball player pretending to be a Running Back playing Quarterback.

He's very talented. And could in the perfect situation lead you to a SB.

He's also not very good most of the time.


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Kap stinks and he has character issues of his own.

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Originally Posted By: Ballpeen
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Tim did not suck



You are being a revisionist. The guy sucked. I mean sucked ass.


I don't know why, but I laughed harder reading this post than I should have.

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Kap stinks and he has character issues of his own.


I'd take Kap over Manziel... and that's about it and that's not really saying much lol. Never been a Kap fan and hope the rumors of him staying there is true.

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Agreed. Let's draft and develop our own guy.

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This is what I would do.

Trade for Kap for a low round draft pick,
Draft BPA at 2,
Draft Cardale Jones in 3rd/4th (Make Cardale redshirt for 2 years min)

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DeMarco Murray might not be with the Philadelphia Eagles for much longer. Ian Rapoport reported Friday that the Eagles are accepting trade offers for Murray. It's the latest in a long line of speculation and reports that the Eagles could cut Murray and/or that Murray won't be with the team next season.

http://www.chatsports.com/nfl/a/here-are-5-teams-could-trade-eagles-rb-demarco-murray-27024

I'm all in on this deal.

The Browns have some issues on the offensive line, but their running backs haven't helped either. Duke Johnson has shown promise, but he's more of a third down back than an every down option. Isaiah Crowell can be upgraded and Murray would be the perfect replacement. Murray and Johnson would form a strong one-two punch and the Browns have the cap space to taken on Murray in a trade or add him as a free agent. The Browns have a severe lack of playmakers and Murray would be the best one instantly.


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I believe the Eagles thought the same exact thing when they signed him. It didn't work out so well.


Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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Murray needs solid blocking to excel. I don't see value paying him his ego of a payday for likely the same outcome as there in Philly.

Until we see our line run blocking like Kyle had going there for awhile and consistently, no use, imo, to sign a premier running back. Or spend another high rounder on one.

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DeMarco Murray is a 28 year old running back that makes a ton of money. No thanks.

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Kirk Cousins is getting [franchise or transition] tagged. Shocker.

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/703286184617734144

Alshon Jeffery is also.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/703303732637728769

The kicker from Baltimore too.

https://twitter.com/ESPNNFL/status/703248758507700224

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Source: The 2016 @NFL salary cap was just set at $155.27M.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/703364638692532228

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Source: The 2016 @NFL salary cap was just set at $155.27M.


https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/703364638692532228


I believe this means we have just over $42 million in cap space.

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Kirk Cousins is getting [franchise or transition] tagged. Shocker.


Damn!

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Kirk Cousins is getting [franchise or transition] tagged. Shocker.


Damn!


I hope he saves this entire contract. Probably the most money he'll ever see in a year lol

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Guenther on his free agents: Hue wants them all up in Cleveland.


https://twitter.com/GeoffHobsonCin/status/703262973519753216

I'll take Marvin Jones and George Iloka.

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Iloka may be the reason we aren't going too hard after Gipson. I'm not sure if he's more of a banger or center fielder type safety. A quick Google search lists him as an SS. He is 25 years old.

Cousins gettin the transition tag would be foolish. Id throw a ton of money (front loaded) at him. Make Washington think twice about it.. Even if he's only slower ght above average from here on out, you can put peices around d him for the next 4-5 years and not have to worry about the position anymore..


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If Cousins is transition tagged, I would sign him to a two year with a high guarantee in the first year and then a Mack-style opt out.

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This article is about 5 days old, but it still provides good information about the situation w/Washington and Cousins:

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Redskins can bluff all they want, but Kirk Cousins holds all the cards


Dan Snyder can hem and haw and dig in is heels and pretend that he has a tough decision to make, but in reality he has already been check mated. His back is against the wall and his quarterback has all of the leverage and his football people know it, and he'd be a fool to let Kirk Cousins go anywhere.


I dare say that Cousins is, in fact, going nowhere. Even for a franchise such as this one, notorious for its mismanagement and self-destruction, letting this emerging passer walk would be far too significant a potential faux pas.

The gamble isn't worth it, the stakes are too high, the risk is very profound and the Redskins are backed into a corner. No amount of whispering sweet nothings into the ears of certain media members or trying to create artificial leverage where no real leverage exists or playing word games will change that. Trying to shill the idea that RG3 could be an actual candidate to play quarterback for this team in 2016? Some in the media apparently are willing to perhaps buy it, but this is pure folly. It's beyond laughable to the point that neither team president and chief salesman Bruce Allen nor Snyder would never actually express that sentiment publicly themselves, and it does nothing to alter what the franchise is up against.

Cousins holds all the cards. His representatives know it. The true football people in the Redskins organization must understand it. Eventually, the dude who controls the budget -- Snyder -- had better grasp it, because the alternatives are scant and the past history with quarterbacks under this owner is grizzly and the best way for him to divide an organization that was finally starting to be unified by new general manager Scot McCloughan would be to undercut it all by mucking up this negotiation.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Cousins is a stud and will win a Super Bowl in Washington and he is everything you could ask for in a quarterback. But he just might be the best passer this franchise has seen in decades and he is viewed by the football operations department as a potential top-15 quarterback. He projects at the low end to be at least an Alex Smith type and he is a guy you can win with and, as much as anything else, this team has no clear plan to find a decent alternative, let alone an upgrade.

He rallied the locker room and helped eradicate the drama and sagas and BS that have long crippled this franchise and he helped establish an identity for the club and -- never to be underestimated in the eyes of an owner like Snyder -- he provided a sellable entity at the quarterback spot who fans and players alike could rally around.


To be clear, Cousins has several things going for him in these contract negotiations.

For starters, the franchise tag is generally a strong weapon for teams to employ, but in this case, at roughly $20M, it works firmly in Cousins' favor. Franchising or transitioning Cousins is the only way to keep him off the market (using a transition on a quarterback is counter-intuitive as you risk losing the player for no compensation at all while saving perhaps a few million bucks a year), and with a finite amount of time to make this decision (by the end of the month) and so much uncertainty if they let him walk, this figure serves Cousins very well. Once he is tagged he begins negotiating off this figure, and everyone knows it. Tagging him only helps his cause.

Next, if Cousins is allowed to walk, that's perfectly fine with him as well. He'd love to stay but he is a big boy and it's just business. He was a pro as he waited to get to play and he always took the high road and produced when it mattered most in 2015, and for that he is clearly positioned as the best potential free agent quarterback available. Considering this draft class of quarterbacks isn't exactly blowing people away with its early returns, and the fact that there are a number of clubs in the market for quarterbacks at this very moment (including the Jets, who were interested in landing Cousins in trade a year ago, and Texans and Browns and Rams and Broncos and Eagles and 49ers), that puts him in good stead. All is takes is one team to offer him in the range of $15-$18M a season for Cousins to be not only set for life for generations to come, but surrounded by a team committed to making him its quarterback of the present and the future. And few teams have been more desperate for just that sort of player to emerge than the Redskins. So I am to believe they are going to let him walk away -- for maybe a comp pick at the end of the third round in 2017 -- over money? Given this owner, who has thrown bad money after bad players for more or less the totality of his existence in the NFL? OK.

So let's say Cousins does walk. Where are the Redskins going? Sam Bradford? Trading for Colin Kaepernick? RG3? (Come on, they just redshirted him and wouldn't let him anywhere close to the field in 2015, and they aren't paying him his $17M fifth-year option in 2016 and he wants absolutely, positively nothing to do with them. So, seriously, what are they doing? They won too many games last year -- with Cousins helping lead them to the postseason -- to have a viable quarterback fall to them in the draft. And there ain't no way McCloughan is offering up a ransom to move up for any of the quasi-prospects available in this draft (and reprise Snyder's RG3 mistake). The bottom line is above-average play at the quarterback position comes at a steep premium. It's a tax most teams know they must pay, and it's a part of doing business in the NFL.

So, to be clear: If Cousins gets tagged, he wins. And if he is allowed to walk, he wins.

And the Redskins have no clear path to anything close to victory at his position if he does in fact hit the market in a few weeks. And they have been unable to get it right at this position since, hell, Mark Rypien? And, as NFC East division winners, it would be bad for business and football if they took a major step back in 2016. And after botching the blockbuster trade for RG3 just a few years ago there ain't no way in hell they are going to be giving up a bounty to move up to draft a quarterback.

And, they had $17M earmarked for RG3 in 2016 that can be easily shifted over to Cousins. And, contrary to the drivel some are reporting, Cousins has never asked for $20M a season or anything close to it. And, whether it be at the end of this month or in the middle of July -- when the deadline to extend players on the franchise tag approaches -- I suspect this quarterback observes the value of a bird in hand and some legitimate guaranteed money and while he's anything but a pushover he'll be reasoned as well. Tagging him buys a lot of time for a deal to be worked out, while failing to tag him could end up being quite quick and finite.

At any other position, given the tight sample size of Cousins' best work, I could probably understand going in a different direction or getting cute with this decision. But for this franchise, at this position, at this particular time, they really have next to no choice, and out-thinking themselves, or getting cheap now, could come with the steepest of ramifications. It's a luxury Snyder cannot afford, and a mistake of this magnitude could haunt his franchise for quite some time and any deal could be structured in a manner in which the guaranteed money -- and actual risk -- is contained within a few years.

The risk of letting a winning quarterback march out of town not yet even in his prime, to perhaps even a team in the same division, is far greater. I know it. And Cousins knows it. And the Skins know it, too.

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I have no clue on the Run Block Scheme we will utilize. I think it is obvious that Murray is a one dimensional scheme RB.

I would suspect that the Cowboys would go hard for him. Some are saying that is a possible landing spot for Ezekial. If their need is that great and Murray gets cut.

Us...rather go for youth. There are going to be some good RBs in the 2nd or 3rd round this year.

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I'd rather wait for next year for an RB, eo. That class is looking stacked. Perine, McCaffery, Fournette, Cook, Chubb, etc.


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Cordy Glenn got franchise tagged.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/703696449163419648

Von Miller is going to get tagged (which means Osweiler and Jackson will be unrestricted free agents).

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/703700787516420096

It looks like Trumaine Johnson is going to get tagged.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/703700980836204544

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Do you like depressing people?


Only you.

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Thanks.


We now return to our regularly scheduled programming...


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As predicted, Bears tag Alshon Jeffery:

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/29/bears-announce-franchise-tag-for-alshon-jeffery/

"The Bears made it official on Monday with an announcement confirming that they have placed the tag on their top wideout. The two sides can continue discussing a long-term deal through July 15."

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Glad 'Peen toned it down. Sometimes he has strong opinions . . . .

And I agree. Wish we had TR to trade again; he contributed more leaving.


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Fins have officially turned in paperwork placing the transition tag on Olivier Vernon. Given their cap issues, vulnerable to an offer sheet


https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/704709808008654848

This could be a very interesting situation to follow.


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We're going to be drafting so much better now we won't have to sign too many FA. thumbsup

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I'm just referencing NFL FA story lines, not necessary regarding Cleveland's FA priorities.


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