DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Peyton Manning to retire

per N.F.L. Network (just saw it on the ticker). Oh well, so much for the Osweiler rumors. Thought he was only so-so anyways when he took over for Manning mid-season. Still prefer 1 of the guys in the draft/ Goff or Wentz.

Just heard this. I'm happy for him.

After watching us play Peyton this year, it's clear that he's taken a significant step back.

Always rooted for him (sure hope all these allegations against him aren't true)

Link

http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_29570921/paige-broncos-peyton-manning-will-ride-off-into

Decent career, but I never got the "hype" for him.

To me he's the second most overrated QB of the modern era. Most overrated goes to Brett Favre.

Manning played in a dome for the majority of his career. That taints all his accolades to me. Plus he always had a stellar cast to work with, minus a running back, while playing for the Colts; the defense he had helped a ton, too.

Plus he always had a stellar cast to work with, minus a running back, while playing for the Colts;

So the fact that the opposing defenses didn't have to account for a running back and could key on the passing game makes him overrated?

By the way, he had Edgerrin James as his running back for 7 of his first 8 years. In those years, James ran for over 1,200 yards 5 times and over 1,500 yards 4 times. That actually comes closer to supporting your argument more than the "minus a running back" comment.

I think he's 1st ballot HOF, no doubt. I don't know what you saw to think "over-rated" about him or Favre.

I agree on Favre, not on Manning. Manning is something else. And I think he helped elevate his teammates, as much as his teammates helped elevate him

TD-Int Ratio on Favre sits at too high of a level for me.

Wat.

I can see the commercials of Peyton driving off into the sunset already.

It's okay. These opinions have been held for numerous years, and I'm used to the quizzical looks and questions.

I used to view Brady as the most underappreciatde of the modern era. He's truly done something with nothing, but the deflating controversy killed my opinion on that.

Not sure who I hold as the "best" of right now. I'd like to say Aaron Rodgers, but he's lost some steam the last couple of years. Same with Russel Wilson, too. Newton could've taken that title for me, but Denver's defense absolutely owned him.

Broncos VP of public relations is saying Manning has not made a decision yet.

Maybe the media should wait and let Peyton announce his decision...

Nothing official as of yet.

I won't be shocked if he does retire. He can win, with the perfect team around him, but he is no longer that guy who raises his team up on his shoulders.

I am shocked that someone would view Manning as overrated somehow. He is absolutely one of the very best QB of all time.

Rocket's opinions on white people are tainted.

How long will it take him to transition to the announcer's booth?

The Colts defense was notoriously bad for most of Manning's career there. They did have some flashes especially with Freeney and Mathis but overall they were not good.

That team drafted first overall to get Manning and first overall when Manning got injured.

He really is one of my all-time favorites and he definitely is one the true greats. I'm glad he got to go out a winner. My buddy who passed away in October is surely smiling down.

There's no question about it. No way I could ever agree with the overrated comment. This man has been a spectacle to watch execute his craft and for quite awhile.

Just a bit of pot stirring away from the topic at hand, Mac.

Vers doesn't agree with my opinions on race and socioeconomics, so he feels compelled to call me racist. He wants a fight, but I refuse to entertain his thoughts.

Now back to the topic at hand.

In his prime at Indianapolis, Manning was the best I have ever seen at reading a defense and picking them apart; play after play after play. It was like having a good offensive coordinator at QB. Couple that with all of his other abilities, and he is one of the greatest of all time. Not overrated at all. Going out on a SB victory is the stuff of legends.

It's mainly the controlled environment that impacts his legacy for me. I wonder if he'd truly been as effective at picking apart defenses, playing as well as he does, and other adverse conditions if he played outside more often.

His first two and a half years in Denver were some of his most prolific before he got hurt... I agree that being in a dome probably helped but I don't think he had much issue with the elements overall

To me he's probably the smartest and most prepared qb of all time... And I'd say easily top five overall qbs of all time

Are you really buying what he is saying. Go check out the Manning thread in the Tailgate forum. He was all over Manning, but never apologized once the truth came out that racism was involved in the slander.

Heck, do a search of his posts. You'll see a trend. A very biased, racist trend.

Actually no - I haven't been on for awhile so haven't read many other forums besides this one and draft day

I was surprised to how anyone could think that manning isn't an all time great... i guess I'm fine if someone wants to say he's over rated, but to me he had zero issue playing out doors except a couple years going up to foxbourgho but thwt was probably more just going against a really good qb in brady

Peyton Manning played more games outdoors in his career than indoors.

In those 136 games he threw for 37,003 yards (272 per game), 270 TDs, and completed 64% of his passes.

Yes, but he is white............so he is not nearly as good as Cam or Wilson.

Do tell where I made any racial comment about Manning? Show me the receipts. Only comment I made in that thread is that I'd vote for Elizabeth Warren.

I have been fighting racism for a long, long time. That is why I left a great job in a white suburban school and have worked in schools that almost completely comprised of minorities. I think racism is a detriment to this country's future and I have vowed to fight against it.

Over time, my radar for racists has heightened. And contrary to what many will contend, racism exists in many different groups. I have pin-pointed some white racists on here and I have also identified other racists. You are perhaps the biggest racist on the board. Well, you probably aren't because there are more than likely some white racists who have enough sense to shut the hell up about their viewpoints, but man, you are so biased in your reporting and comments on racial issues.

I'm saying this in a kind way........you can gain more empathy if you weren't so harsh. Trying to lump all whites into a tight category that has a headline of "Racists" is not going to provoke much understanding. In fact, it will alienate most people.

I really can't believe that people who have been discriminated against think that discriminating against others is somehow...okay.

A hater is a hater. And it sure doesn't help the world go 'round.




People like you are getting in my way of trying to promote racial harmony.

A very much smiling pizza monger. Get out in one piece now.

I would vote him into HOF first time available. Great to see him this year at the stadium.
We played him tougher than some other teams. OT heartbreaker.

He is something special, but this bloom is fading fast.

Let's hope Papa John's does not become his legacy.

I do like his Nationwide jingle commercials, though.

You are giving a big share of the credit for Manning's success to the Colts defense? If they had a consistently good defense he would have about 4 rings...

They were only in the top half of NFL defenses about 5 or 6 years of Mannings 13.. and only had a few where they were actually top 10..

I think the best thing about this post wasn't that Rocket, a white person, was accused of racism. It's that when asked to provide examples of racism, Vers doesn't offer any, but then lectures Rocket, a white person, about the dangers of labeling white people as "racists".

If Manning had Brady's defense he would have have more rings. I don't care. Manning was the greatest QB I've ever seen. He was so much better than Brady, at his prime, it wasn't even a discussion until the Post Season. Manning will surely be missed. No one may ever compare to him again.

Not to mention if Manning had Belichick as his coach.. would have solved 2 things, 1. He would have had a better defense and 2. He wouldn't have had to face Belichick, who is the only coach who ever had consistent success stopping him.

On the other hand, Belichick would have probably kicked Peyton to the curb a couple years ago.

Yeah, but you couldn't hold that against Peyton. New England lets alot of their big free agents walk, all the time and especially if they're not willing to take big pay cuts and etc.

I kind of wished we had that "power" here, but we gotta overpay generally to bring in guys.

Build a team around your HC rather than your GM/QB. That's the only way to do it.