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This should be an interesting tale to watch unfold .




Say What Now? Couple Shot and Killed by Inglewood Police Were Unconscious When Officers Arrived
February 28, 2016 430 Comments

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A man and woman who were shot and killed by Inglewood Police last weekend were both reportedly already unconscious when police first showed up to the vehicle the couple was sitting in.

Why police shot two people who were unconscious? Who knows.



This troubling revelation complicates the original account from Inglewood Police originally reported after the shooting occurred.

Inglewood police responded to a report of a suspicious vehicle parked close to the intersection of Inglewood Avenue and Manchester Boulevards at around 3 a.m. on the morning of Sunday February 21. Upon arrival, they discovered two people, Kisha Michael, 31, and Marquintan Sandlin, 32, both unconscious in the vehicle.

Upon seeing the unconscious couple in the car, Inglewood Mayor James Butts explained to NBC 4 how “the officers retreated, isolated the vehicle, and spent about 45 minutes attempting to rouse the occupants and to deescalate the situation.”

Originally, Inglewood police said officers opened fire on the couple after they noticed the woman had a gun. According to the department, officers ordered both people in the car to exit before taking cover and opening fire.

At some point before the shooting, an officer can be heard on a police radio transmission saying the woman had a gun in her right hand. However, it’s still unclear why officers opened fire, or if the couple were even conscious at the time—the department has been mum on the subject.

“Obviously at some point they were conscious because somebody felt threatened,” said Inglewood Mayor Butts told KNBC in an effort to explain on his police department’s behalf.

A total of seven children survive the two victims: Michael was a single mother of three sons, and Sandlin a single father of four daughters. According to their families, the two were on a date that night.

As if shooting unarmed suspects wasn’t bad enough — shooting unconscious suspects is simply deplorable.

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Upon seeing the unconscious couple in the car, Inglewood Mayor James Butts explained to NBC 4 how “the officers retreated, isolated the vehicle, and spent about 45 minutes attempting to rouse the occupants and to deescalate the situation.”

How much more deescalated can you get than unconscious?


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Something sounds fishy . I assume they were trying to rouse them from outside the car ? Why not bream the glass ? As I said it will be interesting

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Let's get the facts and not jump to conclusions.

OK, they had children,.
OK, the were reportedly on a date night.
OK, they were in a car....in some altered condition.

If, this report is accurate.....and we will need more information to verify, then this is abhorent behavior by the officers.

Bet there is more to follow.


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I'm sure there is more to the story than what is included in the article. For instance, hypothetically, they may have been unconscious when police arrived. The officers attempted to rouse them, upon which the female produced a gun causing police to retreat and establish a perimeter and attempt to deescalate. The occupants did not comply with those attempts and then 45 minutes into the standoff, someone in the car threatened, or appeared to at least one of the officers to threaten, resulting in the shooting.

Maybe someone in the car pointed a gun at the officers. Maybe one of the officers mistakenly thought someone in the car pointed a gun at the officers. High tension situations can cause mistakes in perception and/or judgement.

I think its a mistake to simply assume that all the details of the situation are presented in the article and that what happened is because of rogue or irresponsible police actions. It could well be that the people in the car played an active role in escalating the situation.

That they retreated and spent 45 minutes attempting to deescalate once a threat was perceived was, in the current climate, the right thing to do. I highly doubt that once that path was established, some rogue cop just decided to start shooting without provocation.


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Originally Posted By: W84NxtYrAgain
I'm sure there is more to the story than what is included in the article. For instance, hypothetically, they may have been unconscious when police arrived. The officers attempted to rouse them, upon which the female produced a gun causing police to retreat and establish a perimeter and attempt to deescalate. The occupants did not comply with those attempts and then 45 minutes into the standoff, someone in the car threatened, or appeared to at least one of the officers to threaten, resulting in the shooting.

Maybe someone in the car pointed a gun at the officers. Maybe one of the officers mistakenly thought someone in the car pointed a gun at the officers. High tension situations can cause mistakes in perception and/or judgement.

I think its a mistake to simply assume that all the details of the situation are presented in the article and that what happened is because of rogue or irresponsible police actions. It could well be that the people in the car played an active role in escalating the situation.

That they retreated and spent 45 minutes attempting to deescalate once a threat was perceived was, in the current climate, the right thing to do. I highly doubt that once that path was established, some rogue cop just decided to start shooting without provocation.


You know facts won't matter to a number of people here. Some have already based their opinions on a belief that the couple was still unconscious 45 minutes later even though there's nothing in the article that actually points to that being what happened.

I mean, basic problem solving and critical thinking would have people asking if the couple was unconscious, why would officers retreat from the car? If the couple was doin the nasty in the back of the car, what would need to be de-escalated?


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Let's get the facts and not jump to conclusions.

What fun is that? Pick a side and jump away, then make the facts fit your opinion and if they don't, question the source... isn't that how it's supposed to work? tongue


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What exactly are you implying? So far as I have seen nobody is jumping to ANY conclusions other than to side with law enforcement . Facts are facts and they will eventually come to the surface . I have an opinion about what could have happened . Drunk couple passed out wouldn't wake up by the police beating on the window , woman wakes up to noise of windows being beat on grabs a gun and it goes downhill from there . Being snarky is a bad look for you DC .

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"However, it’s still unclear why officers opened fire, or if the couple were even conscious at the time."

Perhaps, we should wait until information becomes clearer before we start throwing stones at the cops.

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What I'm curious about is if they came up on the car and found two people unconscious why didn't they call medical services?


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
What I'm curious about is if they came up on the car and found two people unconscious why didn't they call medical services?


If that's what actually happened, there is no reason the cops should have jumped to shooting them. The whole story seems fishy.

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Originally Posted By: Lemmys_Wart
"However, it’s still unclear why officers opened fire, or if the couple were even conscious at the time."

Perhaps, we should wait until information becomes clearer before we start throwing stones at the cops.


Nope ... we have papers to sell and emotions to stoke ... fire up that press!

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Unconscious lives matter!


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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Unconscious lives matter!



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Originally Posted By: IRE 45
What exactly are you implying? So far as I have seen nobody is jumping to ANY conclusions other than to side with law enforcement . Facts are facts and they will eventually come to the surface . I have an opinion about what could have happened . Drunk couple passed out wouldn't wake up by the police beating on the window , woman wakes up to noise of windows being beat on grabs a gun and it goes downhill from there . Being snarky is a bad look for you DC .


First of all, DC was simply implying thought about what normally occurs on this board.

Secondly, I disagree with your opinion that everyone is siding with law enforcement.

Thirdly, logically thinking minds would reserve judgement and wait for the facts and additional details/facts to surface. Logical thinking minds would entertain the thought that there is something wrong with this account.

I have seen most who posted regarding this issue to be skeptical of the story and awaiting more information......that's logical thinking.

It would behoove us all to do just the same.


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OH Inglewood. I thought you said Brentwood. Never mind.


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Originally Posted By: IRE 45
What exactly are you implying? So far as I have seen nobody is jumping to ANY conclusions other than to side with law enforcement . Facts are facts and they will eventually come to the surface . I have an opinion about what could have happened . Drunk couple passed out wouldn't wake up by the police beating on the window , woman wakes up to noise of windows being beat on grabs a gun and it goes downhill from there . Being snarky is a bad look for you DC .

I was implying, as I attempted to denote with the emoji with it's tongue sticking out.. that I was joking.


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