DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Alex Mack Opts Out

Not shocking news. It was a forgone conclusion when he signed this contract.

Not surprising, but still somewhat deflating.

It gives him more leverage in negotiations.
The big question is whether or not we can continue negotiations at this point?

Does his opt-out take effect on the 9th or immediately? If not until the 9th, then we can continue to negotiate and we know we're under the gun to make it happen before he can talk to other teams, etc...

If it takes place immediately, well, that sucks because we wouldn't be able to talk to him again until 4pm on the 9th, then.

No shock here, soon as the tag deadline passed - we should've all expected this. I'm actually optimistic on him returning though.

I'm not as optimistic as I guess you are. I think the "still possible" language is to keep adding more suitors to the conversation when the agent talks to teams. I hope I'm wrong.

I know this isn't surprising, but I have a terrible feeling him and Schwartz are gone.

Really, how so? IMO he's gone and he won't look back. The draft board better have an Olinmen up there early.

Add in a rookie qb and what could possibly go wrong?

McCown will get in a few plays first.

At least we'd have a backup with upside "ready" for when McCown gets hurt. But, yeah, losing Mack would hurt. Could possibly slide Greco to center, if we re-sign Pasztor, but losing Schwartz then would be awful. We'd be back to zero depth.

Here's hoping we get them both back.

I'm wondering how much money he's going to get. I was thinking 10 mil a year before, but I'm thinking closer to 12 mil a year now. There really isn't much of a plan B for us. The only thing I can think of is that Wisniewski played for Hue Jackson in Oakland.

Yup, hopefully we can convince him to re-sign

I was hoping not to hear this news but it is what it is.

Farmer accepted this deal, he shouldn't have handled it the way he did.

Can Dwayne Bowe play center?

I think that it's more about guarantees than anything else, especially if he wants to come back here.

Make his 3 remaining years into a 5 year deal, similar annual salaries to Thomas' deal, with significant guarantees. I think that could get a deal done.

It would have made much more sense to franchise tag him twice though.

I don't know what the highest for a center is, but the average of all OL for franchise tagging is 13 Million and change. We can't do it, but it gives an idea what it might take., probably something like 15 to 18 mill a year maybe?

That's a lotta dough for a center..

Mack is as good as gone, why else would the team spend a 1st round pick on Cam Erving last year? Yes Erving could play anywhere on the OL (although none really well) but he came out of college as the top rated center so I've felt like Mack has been gone for over a year now. JMHO

i think there is a good chance of him staying. i think he really likes playing with JT and the rest. depends on brown really. he will get paid where ever he go.

The 3 highest paid Centers per year are Rodney Hudson and the Pouncey brothers at just under $9 mill a year so I around 10 mill a year should do it.

Ok but how does that square with the franchise Tag amount at 13 million? Oh wait, that's not just centers, that's all OL. Ok,, never mind

Good thing for Alex. He needs to win and we need to start fresh.

We should thank him from the time he played in here.

I think you were right in the first place. 12.943 M for OL

http://nfltraderumors.co/2013-franchise-transition-tag-numbers/

The question is, what winning/contenders are going to pay him big time, or even have the cap to do so? If he's wanting money, he'll likely go to another loser team, so why not get paid and stay in with a group that's actually pretty damn good.

We are the 2nd worst team on this league, why would you franchise tag any player.

Just let them go. Start fresh

Our team sucks, our offensive line is stable. I'm not against a fresh start but unfortunately that fresh start would involve Erving, and that's not the type of "fresh" I think most fans would want.

never know. erving might come around. i sure am not going to throw him under the bus based on last year. but the truth is we have 3 years before we have to worry about cap room.

until then overpay to keep our home grown talent. jmo.

This was expected IMO. He's been gone for over a year, at least mentally.

He'll go somewhere warm, cozy, and sumptuous.

Don't blame him, but I also don't care about him anymore either. It's whatever.

Well, well.....



https://twitter.com/MaryKayCabot/status/705115268612284420

I dont see anyone paying a center, Even a Pro Bowl All Pro Center, more than 10 mil a year.

Dumb question, and maybe it's been covered in here and I didn't see it......but, he opted out. Can the Browns still sign him back? Or does opting out of his contract null any chance at all for the Browns?

i could see him getting franchise tag money this year and the next 3 years getting 9 or so.....

Serious question:

Does anyone think Bitonio can play right tackle?

So unless they pay them whatever they want, they didn't try?