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And the democrats are anointing a candidate that has illegally removed classified documents from government offices, deleted government records, lied to congress, and may have even taken bribes from foreign agents for favors. Some choice we have, huh?

And I think that's real tasteless by republicans. Bring out Mitt to bash trump?

Why on earth is that considered a viable strategy?

No idea. I can't fathom mitt doing any better this time than he did last time. He's little more than 'democrat lite' as I see it.

As a life long Republican I find it interesting that Trump came out originally stating he was up against everyone, even the Republican establishment. People said he was crazy, finding conspiracies around every corner.
Turns out Trump was right.

He said he didn't think he would get fair treatment from the establishment through the election. People said he was only whining and crying.
Turns out Trump was right.

The Republican establishment announced they would require all candidates to sign a pledge they would remain loyal to the Party and not run as an Independent. Trump wavered at first saying he didn't trust them to be fair and honest with their end of that deal. He finally signed it saying as long as they treat me fair, I will sign the pledge. People said he wavered so he was not serious about running as a Republican.
Turns out Trump was right.

Trump has pointed his finger left and right saying they are all liars and the American system is corrupt from top to bottom. He talked about the waste in the system and the greed at the top. He said he knows how the Bankers and Wall Street operate, saying they won't like this but I will see to it that it changes!
Turns out, once again, this Trump guy was right.

Some of you ask why? Why would the GOP turn on him like this? What purpose does it serve? I will tell you why and it hurts me to my bones to say it...

The Establishment in the GOP has come to the conclusion it is better to protect their Senators and their base of Power than to win the Presidency with Trump. Trump is his own man and can not be controlled. They Hate that.

I LOVE this game can I play too??

Trump said that Goerge lied to the country and took us to war. Turned out that is true.

Trump said Cruz is a liar, turned out that is true.

Trump said Rubio is a lite weight, turns out that is true.

Just goes to show that not everything the Donald says is wrong, don't it?

Because if you are the GOPe, having someone basically take over your party is thought to be the death of your party. Pat Buchanan had a nice editorial to contrast the chicken little opinions of the GOPe though:

http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/a-new-gop-is-born/

Now, watch tomorrow as Wall Street big wigs and the Bankers start piling on Trump once Mitt is done.

All these people will protect us and save us, in spite of our stupid selves, from the evil that is Donald.
Trust us for we have your best interests at heart.

Lots of stupid people in America DC..

But then again, look at Rubio and Cruz. Both have immigrant parents. Both are taking a strong stance against immigration.

There really isn't a decent candidate from the republican. Closet thing to it is Kasich and he's not got a prayer in hell of getting the nomination.

That leaves us with who? Clinton or Sanders?

The only way I vote for Clinton is if it's against Trump. SHe's bad, he's a freaking idiot.

Sanders is probably the only decent human being running for President. Hate his policies all you want, (I don't like them either) but he's honest and he's spent his entire life fighting for the rights of others. That's gotta say something good about the "MAN" himself.

Yo yall watching live?

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/mitt-romney-tells-donald-trump-voters-theyre-162616616.html

Yo Mitt is going hard in the paint on Trump

Romney just set Trump up :

"watch how he responds to my speech today"

Wow.
Never seen anything like that and can't find it ever happening before in History.

Wow.

Romney brought straight fiya.

good lord....i mean....yea bro i never seen anything like that before, either. definitely not internally in a party before.

The GOP can pretty much count on Trump running as an Independent now if he fails to gain the GOP nomination. Morons. They can see the ship is sinking so hey, lets pull that stopper out of the hull and see what it's for...

Well now that the shock is settling in,
I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT TRUMP HAS TO SAY ABOUT IT!!!

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Mitt said that anybody supporting Trump are suckers.

there is chaos in the metaphorical streets right now in GOP country. This is like seeing haley's comet or something.

The old guard is seeing their train leaving the station without them and they are now calling their own crooks down the track to derail it.

Here it is in a nutshell..."Romney's a 2 time loser"

yall see social media and some comment sections?

boy...the mormon bashing comments are back out in full force. jeez....

this is the first time in a long time i havent seen a GOP politician mention Obama's name. Trump got these guys in self destruct mode.

No clue how this will all work out. We are watching History in action with this one.

people are saying that a year ago, Mitt was praising Trump on his views.

Not really, the GOP is notorious for derailing themselves.

Trump to speak at 1:30 eastern time!

channel? link? we can't miss this

Where:
The Westin Portland Harborview Hotel - Ballroom
157 High Street
Portland, ME 04101

Register for this event now at :
http://www.eventbrite.com/e/donald-j-trump-in-portland-me-tickets-22502509612

I just can't bring myself to vote for somebody that I feel is "bad, freaking idiot" just because that person is moderately less bad than the other option.

Here's the problem.. it's Mitt Romney. This isn't Ronald Reagan or some revered person in the GOP... Mitt Romney could only garner luke warm support in an attempt to defeat Obama, who most of the GOP had vowed to defeat...

I doubt Romney's speech is going to affect very many people... the only chance it has to be effective is Trump does something in his response to it that has an impact..

I think the major impact Romney is creating is in helping the media firestorm indicating that the GOP is falling apart due to division.

The fact that the Republican party has disdain for Trump isn't news. That's been known from the start. It's simply that when it's more public, it gives the media an opportunity to present it as news. But change people's minds? No.

But why would the GOP willingly put forth a guy to speak knowing that the ramifications are that it will give the media fuel to fire the "the GOP is falling apart" narrative?

I believe they are at a juncture that they believe they will lose a lot of their base if Trump is the nominee and they feel almost no price is too high to try to stop him. I would have to agree with them if that's their thinking.

News flash.....GOP is now thinking!

The Republican Party needs to not only fracture, but break.

The national leadership of the party is incredibly inept. They gain power, and do nothing. They talk a great game, and then flop around, floundering instead of doing the things they said they would do.

The Republican establishment is not only inept, but they are the ones who are destroying the party. Parading out Mitt Romney, a Republican who looked remarkably like a Democrat, and who ran one of the most inept Presidential campaigns against a very beatable President Obama, is something worse than a circus. Romney ran an inept campaign, yet he is supposed to tell us how to win? Why is anyone even listening to this guy? He is what's wrong with the GOP.

If Romney is the face of the GOP, then the Party needs to be fractured and broken. Then it can be rebuilt, or something better can be built in its place. This Party is lost, and I think that a lot of Republican voters feel that it is broken beyond repair. It is time to make major changes to the Party, because the Party is on the verge of becoming inconsequential, and being known as a "do nothing" Party. It's all well and good to stop the opposition, and there is value in that ..... but the Republicans should be pushing through initiative after initiative, and let the Democrats in the Senate and President be the obstructionists. Unfortunately, they do not, and have not.

The Party is broken, and some say that the way to repair something that is badly broken is to tape it up, but sometimes you just have to tear it all the way down, and start over from the foundation up. I think that's where the Republican Party is right now.

I will say one thing ..... seeing Romney come out and go after Trump, as if he knows how to win a presidential race, actually makes me almost want to vote for Trump.

It is time for major changes to the Republican Party.

the GOP's problem is that everytime they lose any election, their first response is "how can we get more conservative", instead on trying to figure out how to actually reach the american population at large.

y'all move further and further to the right. thats not what people want. you're doing it wrong.

There is. It's called Trump.

Actually what you are seeing (and what is causing the fracturing) is that a portion of the GOP does seem to want to hunker down and move right... others are willing to accept more moderate thinking and stay closer to the center.. and the group that is hunkering down is by far the loudest..

The Republicans do an awful job of communicating their beliefs, and why they are the right thing for this country.

That's why Trump is running away with this so far. He knows how to speak directly to the people.

i simply don't see the diversity of people that support the conservative movement.

the GOP just doesn't appeal to the majority. the actual values of conservatism is something a lot of people can get behind. but your leaders aren't representing that.

Trump fired back, saying Romney was a fail candidate.

Which isn't false, so i guess whatever.

There are no more Reagan republicans. do a search on how he handled the Illegals situation. He sounds more like the Democrats do today. Odd as that is, so did George H.W. Bush.

Trump on Mitt: "I could've said, 'Mitt, drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."

Savage as hell. lmao jeez.