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I have gotten so used to Politicians speaking from teleprompters that Trumps way of speaking his mind, without a prepared speech and without a teleprompter seems odd to me. Refreshing but odd.

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I have gotten so used to Politicians speaking from teleprompters that Trumps way of speaking his mind, without a prepared speech and without a teleprompter seems odd to me. Refreshing but odd.


he's gonna want to wish he used a teleprompter come general election/debate time.


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I have gotten so used to Politicians speaking from teleprompters that Trumps way of speaking his mind, without a prepared speech and without a teleprompter seems odd to me. Refreshing but odd.


He sounded very liberal.


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He is a Social Liberal/Fiscal Conservative.

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having Donald win and continue his cartoonish behavior could alienate


...most of our international allies, and completely trash our reputation on the global scene. This is something I suspect his early supporters haven't seriously considered. They just want to give Wash DC the middle finger. He's definitely great for that... but if he's elected, we get the WHOLE package- and that scares me to death.

Something else they should consider: how much would he be able to accomplish with the same DC insiders waiting for him?


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Most of our international allies and trading partners already see us as fools. They suck our blood for Trillions of dollars and laugh all the way to the Bank.

The Obama administration has lost most of the respect from others that we worked so hard to gain over the decades.

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Seems to me that a pretty large portion of the globe hates us for one reason or another already. We pretty much buy our allies.

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That's a good point. Everybody wants to tell the government to F off with voting for trump, then he tanks and ruins the country even more, and that's when the excuses will REALLY start flying.


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Obama has given our credibility back with regards to Europe and such.

I really don't care what the Middle East thinks of us. That is a trash region of the globe. That's like carry what Putin thinks of us. Something republicans seem to care about.


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Obama has given our credibility back with regards to Europe and such.


I'm not so sure that's the case. I talk to French people all the time and the general message I get is that they seem to like Obama, but feel that the American people and politics are the same as they were before he became President. They consider America to be interesting and the citizens mostly good, but they consider our government and politics to be inferior, and that hasn't changed with the presidential elections.

Now Trump? They seem to genuinely believe Trump to be a different type of candidate. Scared? You betcha. But the French people have reason to be scared after the attacks on their soil, even if I think they should be more concerned with their homeland before worrying too much about America.

I work for a French company so thats my "source," albeit anecdotal. Still, I'll take word on the street over that of an AP piece or blogger.


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Trump on Mitt: "I could've said, 'Mitt, drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."

Savage as hell. lmao jeez.


LOL,, did he really say that? what does he want Mitt to do while he's on his knees?


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I think they have finally come to the conclusion it is better to risk having Trump run as an Independent, giving victory to the Democrats, than having him win as a Republican.

And they might be right. Having Hillary win would absolutely suck and would cost the republicans 4 more years without the Whitehouse... having Donald win and continue his cartoonish behavior could alienate many republicans and fracture the party for decades... just a thought.


The Republican Party needs to not only fracture, but break.

The national leadership of the party is incredibly inept. They gain power, and do nothing. They talk a great game, and then flop around, floundering instead of doing the things they said they would do.

The Republican establishment is not only inept, but they are the ones who are destroying the party. Parading out Mitt Romney, a Republican who looked remarkably like a Democrat, and who ran one of the most inept Presidential campaigns against a very beatable President Obama, is something worse than a circus. Romney ran an inept campaign, yet he is supposed to tell us how to win? Why is anyone even listening to this guy? He is what's wrong with the GOP.

If Romney is the face of the GOP, then the Party needs to be fractured and broken. Then it can be rebuilt, or something better can be built in its place. This Party is lost, and I think that a lot of Republican voters feel that it is broken beyond repair. It is time to make major changes to the Party, because the Party is on the verge of becoming inconsequential, and being known as a "do nothing" Party. It's all well and good to stop the opposition, and there is value in that ..... but the Republicans should be pushing through initiative after initiative, and let the Democrats in the Senate and President be the obstructionists. Unfortunately, they do not, and have not.

The Party is broken, and some say that the way to repair something that is badly broken is to tape it up, but sometimes you just have to tear it all the way down, and start over from the foundation up. I think that's where the Republican Party is right now.

I will say one thing ..... seeing Romney come out and go after Trump, as if he knows how to win a presidential race, actually makes me almost want to vote for Trump.

It is time for major changes to the Republican Party.


Hey Y-town just wanted to say great post....and I agree burn it down and start over...to hell with the establishment...good post man thumbsup

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Trump on Mitt: "I could've said, 'Mitt, drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."

Savage as hell. lmao jeez.


LOL,, did he really say that? what does he want Mitt to do while he's on his knees?


Watch the video Daman...I'm sure its open to interpretation on how you feel about him.

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Trump on Mitt: "I could've said, 'Mitt, drop to your knees.' He would have dropped to his knees."

Savage as hell. lmao jeez.


LOL,, did he really say that? what does he want Mitt to do while he's on his knees?


yea he actually said it, on live TV. it's a metaphor of course, but ya know...Trump.

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i simply don't see the diversity of people that support the conservative movement.

the GOP just doesn't appeal to the majority. the actual values of conservatism is something a lot of people can get behind. but your leaders aren't representing that.


Had I not been a conservative for 30 years, had I not grown up knowing what it meant to be a conservative.. I wouldn't support any conservative movement now either. Because the public voice of what is now considered "conservative" is old and angry and bitter and disconnected. What optimistic and energetic young person wants to sign up to become a part of that?

I know you don't remember Reagan and it's ok for people to disagree on his policies but the dude had charisma.. even though I was 18 and he was 108 when I voted for him, you still felt a connection. He was funny, charming, self-deprecating, mocked the government establishment... yea, people view some of his policies now and rip him apart, whatever... his speeches were inspiring, optimistic, and captivating... you hear NONE of that today from any of the republicans.. Everything is negative and blame and anger...


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I agree with that...I also was old enough to watch Reagan...and agree with what you said.

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In his speech, Trump talked about Carrier Air conditioners closing up shop in America and moving to Mexico. The Boss announced it to the employees and walked away. Trump said the guy had zero social skills. The workers were devastated, I saw them, it was terrible!

The workers called their Congressmen and their people in Washington to do something but you gotta understand how it works, their people got mad and wanted to come down hard on Carrier but then their lobbyists and managers told them You can't! They donated $2 million to your reelection campaign so you can't crack down on them! So as usual, nothing happened.

Trump said if I was President I would have called Carrier on the phone. I would have told them to enjoy their trip to Mexico, I will no longer buy your products and I am going to slap a 35% tax on everything you sell back to America! Have a safe trip.

He said it would be 24 hours or less when Carrier called him back to say they changed their minds and would stay in America! I owe nothing to anyone!

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I'm curious to see how Trump does in the debate tonight..I hope its not a crap fest and they actually discuss issues. I'm not hopeful.

Con man...little rubio...con man...trump university...con man..ugh.

This has been entertaining though.

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Can't wait to see what this moron says and does once the full on campaign begins between him and Hillary . I thought the last election cycle was bad for Republicans but this one ....

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Rubio has to tear into Trump if he has any hope of winning anything, including his own State of Florida where Trump still leads in the Polls.

Cruz may play it straight, letting Rubio do the dirty work.

Kasich will push his plans.

Carson will be as noticed as ever. (He won't be there)

Trump will be Trump.

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I think they have finally come to the conclusion it is better to risk having Trump run as an Independent, giving victory to the Democrats, than having him win as a Republican.

And they might be right. Having Hillary win would absolutely suck and would cost the republicans 4 more years without the Whitehouse... having Donald win and continue his cartoonish behavior could alienate many republicans and fracture the party for decades... just a thought.


The Republican Party needs to not only fracture, but break.

The national leadership of the party is incredibly inept. They gain power, and do nothing. They talk a great game, and then flop around, floundering instead of doing the things they said they would do.

The Republican establishment is not only inept, but they are the ones who are destroying the party. Parading out Mitt Romney, a Republican who looked remarkably like a Democrat, and who ran one of the most inept Presidential campaigns against a very beatable President Obama, is something worse than a circus. Romney ran an inept campaign, yet he is supposed to tell us how to win? Why is anyone even listening to this guy? He is what's wrong with the GOP.

If Romney is the face of the GOP, then the Party needs to be fractured and broken. Then it can be rebuilt, or something better can be built in its place. This Party is lost, and I think that a lot of Republican voters feel that it is broken beyond repair. It is time to make major changes to the Party, because the Party is on the verge of becoming inconsequential, and being known as a "do nothing" Party. It's all well and good to stop the opposition, and there is value in that ..... but the Republicans should be pushing through initiative after initiative, and let the Democrats in the Senate and President be the obstructionists. Unfortunately, they do not, and have not.

The Party is broken, and some say that the way to repair something that is badly broken is to tape it up, but sometimes you just have to tear it all the way down, and start over from the foundation up. I think that's where the Republican Party is right now.

I will say one thing ..... seeing Romney come out and go after Trump, as if he knows how to win a presidential race, actually makes me almost want to vote for Trump.

It is time for major changes to the Republican Party.


Hey Y-town just wanted to say great post....and I agree burn it down and start over...to hell with the establishment...good post man thumbsup


I think that it's a vital 1st step. get rid of the establishment leaders, who lead nowhere. Get rid of the "say anything and do nothing" politicians.

That's the 1st step, but we have to have a plan in place for what comes next, because "next" has to come immediately.

We need to rebuild the platform of values and ideals as well. We need to develop a strategy of communicating not only what we believe, but also why we believe it. We need to develop leaders who can do what Trump has done, and communicate directly with a broader base of people. Our New Party can't wander off aimlessly in all directions, but rather keep the message simple, and direct. We must keep our values and ideals as non-negotiable, but many other things can be negotiated, within limits. We have to be FOR things, and not just against things.

Ah, it'll never happen, because no one has the political will. If Trump loses, the Party will take that as an endorsement of the Party line ..... and nothing will change.

That is about the only good that could come out of a Trump victory.


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I find Rubio funny trying to be the tough guy...all I read is him and foam parties with no females attending...and turns into a tough guy...give me a break little marco.

I am curious to see how Trump handles it from all directions though.

Did you read Trumps plans on the healthcare? How to fix it? Seemed like common sense to me but I'm sure little marco will find fault.

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I'm with you on that my friend...it was a good post.

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Trump has to do what he has always done: talk trash.

as long as he keeps this up, the RNC has no choice but to give him the nod. anything else is guaranteeing the death of the GOP.


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Maybe, but what else is he supposed to do Swish? I think he has pulled it back a bit from when he first started to campaign.

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he pulled back because he has the majority of support. Romney's speech....

bruh...people thought Trump's supporters were fanatics now, after that speech, it's over with. the GOP has effectively alienated themselves from the base.

all Trump has to do is make sure he gets most of the other primaries. He doesn't have to shift back into gear until it's time to campaign for the general election.


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I agree Swish...Romney is yeah...and I saw what McCain sent out...GOPe really is stupid.

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Did you read Trumps plans on the healthcare? How to fix it? Seemed like common sense to me


From what I heard of it, it sounds legit.

I liked his plan on having Mexico build the wall. And they will build it he said.

We have a $58 billion trade deficit with Mexico. The wall will cost $10 billion. That is only a percentage of their take on our trade imbalance so they should be happy to pay for it.

I think that meant pay a one time fee of $10 billion to keep the $58 billion in yearly income. Deal?

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Now that Trump feels he has the nomination pretty much in hand, he'll become less and less offensive in his comments. He will shift from what it takes to win the nomination, to what it takes to win the White House.

He knows he can't continue gaining any momentum continuing to act like an a$$ wipe.


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The thing is, he acts like he can do anything he wants without going through Congress or the Senate.

Unless the Senate lets go of the purse strings to fund the wall being built, it will never happen.


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Unless the Senate lets go of the purse strings to fund the wall being built, it will never happen.


I agree with the Senate part but lets be serious for a second..if he can find the money it will get done...if "they" bent over and gave Obama everything he wanted..I think they would fall in line with a shovel ready job poke

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Unless the Senate lets go of the purse strings to fund the wall being built, it will never happen.


Didn't you read it? Mexico pays the tab! We pay nothing. Don't need to bother Congress at all.

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and how exactly is he gonna get mexico to pay for this wall?


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You're totally wrong. Mexico isn't simply going to hand Trump a check. Trump can not in and of himself make the decision to build a wall on the border.

It amazes me what people actually believe.


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[quote=PitDAWG]You're totally wrong. Mexico isn't simply going to hand Trump a check. Trump can not in and of himself make the decision to build a wall on the border.

It amazes me what people actually believe. [/quot

In all fairness I dont THINK Trump said they would cut a check..but will get the money through the trade deficit with them...we shall see.

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You're totally wrong. Mexico isn't simply going to hand Trump a check. Trump can not in and of himself make the decision to build a wall on the border.

It amazes me what people actually believe.


That's not what I said. You were wrong when you said he had to go through Congress to pay for the wall. Mexico will pay for the wall!
Pay attention. Read the post.

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and when mexico's decides they are gonna close the border and not let any drunk americans party in the country anymore, it will be an awesome start to his amazing diplomacy skills.


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so how is he gonna get mexico to pay for the wall?


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I would miss Tijuana...my God the memories I used to have from my visits there tongue

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I know youre smart enough to understand how much they depend on tourist money..I dont think they will close off anything.

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