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Perhaps, but I find this disturbing:

The teacher was negligent. I bet should wouldn't leave her purse in plain site. That being said, the kid basically stole her personal property (would it have been different if he dug through her purse and found a polaroid?) and should be charged for theft, if there is such a law about digital theft.

It's largely an every generation thing, but I think it's a two way street.

Point - Millenials crash on mommy and daddys couch in the basement
Counterpoint - Mommy and Daddy coddle instead of giving some tough love

Point - Millenials can't find jobs even with college degree
Counterpoint - Mom and Dad thought fine arts majors were good job creation majors

Point - Millenials are entitled
Counterpoint - Mom and Dad made sure their child got a trophy regardless of success or effort

I would caution toward riding one point or another too strongly, but I think there is at least some cause and effect going on. My oldest sibling and I were raised in a very strict household. My brother is struggling a bit right now but he works oil fields in North Dakota. Not an easy job. I'm a software engineering manager for a multi national company. Not an easy job. My youngest brother and sister were coddled a great deal, and I think they are finally starting to find their way, but at a much later age than my brother and I. This is all anecdotal to be sure, but I think there is a sense of logic to it. Myself and my siblings are all millenials, although I'm on the bubble because I was born in 84

Millenials start at '81 I believe, so that includes both you and me ('83). I'm in a similar situation as you, in that I have a good job and clawed my way through some tough times. Being the youngest of six, I haven't gotten a dime of "spending money" from my folks since I got my first job (at 13). Moved out after college. Got my first job after law school during the financial crisis. In like manner to what you inferred, those in my family born in the 90's do seem to have a bit more trouble "launching."

It probably looks like I'm trying to pat myself on the back, but that's not the point. The point is that there are a lot of milennials who eeked their way through the financial crisis, got jobs, and dealt/deal with a ton of adversity.

I brought up the wars point because I both work with millennial active duty/vets and have more than a few friends who fought, and still deal with the mental after-effects. I can't imagine.

Also, the point is not to say that the millennials are not at fault whatsoever...more to point out the constant hypocrisy.

Which is why us older folks like to say, I'm glad I lived in a era where every stupid thing I did wasn't captured and distributed for all eternity... or I'd be in trouble.

I still don't own a smart phone, but it's coming- probably sooner than later.

Once I have it, I'll still live by the same code I've followed as a poster here and elsewhere:

"Don't say/do anything that you wouldn't say/do on local TV- with your Mom watching."

I don't mind sharing anecdotes from my past on here, because almost all of them are (or could be) public record. Find the right folks from my life (past & present), and all of them can be verified. No sense in making crap up, if connecting to other fans/potential friends is the goal.

still, I'm prob going to be using that phone more as a browser/receiver than a broadcast tool.

Glad My Parents taught me the value of privacy when I was younger. I forgot on occasion when I was younger, but learned some lessons with each.

I don't need to be showing my [blank] for the whole world to laugh at.

you don't have a smart phone yet? in your profession?

Bruh, you're suppose to be turning up on instagram with the stuff you do.

I resisted a smart phone for a long time. I have one now and love it. Everything is easier to do than on my old flip-phone. Mostly I use it as a phone and to text. Sometimes for a quick search or driving directions while I'm away from home. I was in Cleveland for a doctor appointment. On the way home I searched for "perogies". I found a place in Parma that has them handmade. I got driving directions and took two dozen fresh, raw perogies home. WooHoo!

Texting is a breeze, (no more pushing the "7" four times to get an "S"). And holy mackerel, it's a great camera! I have an older iPhone 5s and Siri is a blast.

I don't come near to using all the features and capabilities which are vast. I never, ever get into social media with it. I will occasionally check on Facebook on my PC but never on my phone. You'll never see me in public staring at my phone. It's not that captivating to me. I really don't get that.

My carrier is StraightTalk at $45 per month and it's all I need.

too egocentric for my tastes
I'll leave that stuff to the Pop and Jazz folks....


Don't do twitter, either.
seen too many folks put their feet in their mouths...

Social media is only one very small part of the reason why I am connected to my smart phone. Once you start figuring out many of the really cool apps out there (and I'm not just talking about games).. but really neat stuff that makes so many things that much more convenient, then you start to wonder how you lived with out it. It's all in how you choose to use it.

Remember, just because the phone is smart, it doesn't say anything about the person holding it.

i would dissect this post, but i'm trying to take a selfie.

As good looking as you are? How long could it take?

filters, bro. it's all about the filters.

I don't do social media at all. Except for business purposes.

I also don't keep up with smart phones. I only got upgraded a couple months ago, and before that had an ancient phone.

I don't do phone apps. Basically all I need are calling functions, a camera, and browsing capabilities.

Not everybody is addicted to social media or mobile apps.

it's not really about addictions, so much as it's about the versatility that comes with it.

Business, like what you do, it's impossible to survive without a social media presence nowadays. Even congressmen and senators have a presence now.

and hell, some of it is just pure entertainment.

Actually it's very easy for online businesses to survive without social media. My most popular game has zero social media accounts. It's all about SEO.

We got a fairly large contract to support a construction project in a town not far from here recently.. saw the article talking about it on Twitter and followed up.

Also saw on Twitter that a guy we have done a lot of work for left his position with one university to accept a job with a new university.. now I know to call him..

And I can't even think of how much time my apps save me... quick check of a sports score, find a restaurant when traveling, check the weather in the city where I'm going to be tomorrow, listen to some music on the plane... sure, it's all information I could get through my browser if I went and looked for it, but they bring it to me, all organized and set up the way I like it... it is so convenient.

Social media is becoming more and more important from a marketing/internet marketing perspective but let's be real-- the vast majority of social media users are just getting cheap thrills and aren't accomplishing anything productive.

yea bro. the wife and i went to a comedy show the other day, and was sitting next to this guy who owns this restaurant in downtown cleveland. first thing he said was "get on yelp and check out our reviews."

we looked at the reviews, decided to try it out. and now it's our favorite spot to go on date nights.

and what's the problem with that? if you're on your daily grind, pulling that 9-5, what better way to kill time on the bus or train than watching some funny videos?

If it were just that, I would say there's nothing wrong with it. But that gets into a discussion about how the average American adult watches 5 hours of TV per day, add in the social media, video games, general internet usage, etc etc etc. and clearly a lot of people have problems with it. I include myself in that btw-- I just think that I'm in the minority in acknowledging it and making it a point to keep my usage at a reasonable level.

yes, there has to be some level of consciousness involved. for example, when my wife and i go out, the phones are on silent, and we don't look at FB or anything.


but if it isn't social media, it's just gonna be something else. there's little difference between somebody on instagram all day and somebody playing call of duty all day.

my wife loves watching HGTV, i love watching rap battles on youtube.

if social media didn't exist, i'd just be playing video games. if video games didn't exist, i'd be doing something else.

people have found stuff to occupy their times with since recorded history, that isn't anything close to be productive.

Kinda like us and this board...

Lol well I agree that there isn't much difference between someone being on instagram all day compared to playing CoD all day. I've done the latter before and it's not a good way to live. The whole point is whether it's binging on social media, video games, netflix, reddit or whatever, many people do it way too much for their own good.

It's a good observation. Forums are really kind of a primitive form of social media. Any of the older guys on here who are hooked on this board almost certainly would have gotten hooked on Facebook/Instagram/whatever if they were available on phones and such when they were younger.

I'm old. I have never been interested in social media. I had a MySpace page, but it was lame.

MySpace......good god that was a fun website lol

No it wasnt. Sparkle graphics are stupid. All those people making websites with sparkle graphics codes. Lame.

At least Facebook is smarter and has everyone's account look the same.

i met my wife on myspace.

I'm glad it worked for you. A lot of people meet their future spouse online. I never had good luck with that. All I ever met are mental cases. Maybe I should rub your head and get some of your luck.

oh trust me, i know your struggle. i know a lot of women gets creepy ass messages from dudes all the time on FB and stuff. i know you probably go through the same nonsense.. there's some weirdo's for sure.

it's a hit or miss, with the majority being massive misses.

Yes, so true. And there are a lot of catfishes as well. People will say anything online.

Hence I don't try to meet people on social media any longer. I would rather try online dating sites, but it's not much better. There are a lot of scammers.

So then I try the old fashioned route and go to the bar. It usually works better. Hehe

Why did I think you were married?

Probably because I spend all my time online lol. And I'm old.

But no, I am an elegible bachelorette.

Nothing wrong with being old. Speaking for myself, I think that being old beats being dead .....

Hmmmm
Eve is single,
YTown is single,

They talk on this web site.
Hmmmm, I gots an idear coming on but it ain't here yet.

I was under the impression that YTown was married, as well.

I'm starting to picture you as that old guy on the dating website talking to his granddaughter about why his questions are better Fred's dating sites questions.

I'm not into the social media thing, this place is about a social as I get on line. I was on Facebook for a bit but quickly realized that I hadn't talked to these people in 30 years for a reason. I don't want my life online, I think I'll keep it in my home where it belongs.

j/c:

Funny how a thread evolves.

A teacher lost her job because some kid jacked her phone. It progresses to talk about smart phones to social media to dating sites to YTown and Eve possibly hooking up.

Interesting......

I figure that Pure Football threads usually converge to arguing about quarterbacks and Everything Else discussion usually converges to arguing about race, religion, or politics. Any deviation from all that mess is welcome to me.