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It's official now

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000641782/article/redskins-inform-robert-griffin-iii-of-release

I'll be curious what teams bring him in and ultimately, which one signed him. Very curious actually, someone is sure to resign him.

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Would be kind of cool if he had a comeback season and proved himself NFL worthy again.


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I keep wondering, if he were under the tutelage of a really good OC or HC that's offensive minded, say like Hue Jackson, could he become what he was supposed to become?

Just wondering out loud, not saying we should try for him, but with Hue, he could be a fit and may not cost an arm and a leg.


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Well the year off last season should have helped the injury situation.

The kid has mad skills - a more intelligent and larger Vick. Don't understand the problems he has with his coaches in Wash??? Thought he was very coach able coming into the NFL.

Would he be a model student of the game under Hue?

I got a feeling Dallas will go hard for him but don't know if RG3 will go somewhere that he is 2nd banana.

If we don't like any of the QBs in this draft to build a franchise around it could be an option. Short term option or Long Term I guess would depend on the effort RG3 would put in.

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Well the year off last season should have helped the injury situation.

The kid has mad skills - a more intelligent and larger Vick. Don't understand the problems he has with his coaches in Wash??? Thought he was very coach able coming into the NFL.

Would he be a model student of the game under Hue?

I got a feeling Dallas will go hard for him but don't know if RG3 will go somewhere that he is 2nd banana.

If we don't like any of the QBs in this draft to build a franchise around it could be an option. Short term option or Long Term I guess would depend on the effort RG3 would put in.

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I would think you are right about the 2nd Banana thing.

In Dallas, he's a back up/insurance policy depending on Romo.

Here, he could compete from day one for the starting role. Thats if we don't draft a guy high in the first or second round. Shouldn't that be enticing to him.

Might be the same in Detroit or LA. I suppose the same could be said for SF. But anywhere else, he's pretty much stuck behind a starter for sure.

Not sure if he fits Hue Jacksons Idea of a starter. I never disliked RGIII, I just didn't think he was worth what Washington had to give up for him.


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only thing holding him back is injuries and his mouth.. if he can keep quiet and only point the finger at himself.. he may still have a chance.


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I think that if Hue sees him as fitting into what he is trying to do, then I like him over the two top rated quarterbacks in this draft class. I think the year off has certainly helped with the healing process. Perhaps, the year off has certainly helped with the maturation process as well. I think that he is worth getting a feel out there to see what the numbers are like and he could come right in to compete for the starting job. I think that the burden of being drafted so high and for a King's Ransom played with his mind. Washington giving up so much may have played into him wanting to do too much and not being able to handle the pressure that was placed upon him. With all that being said, i certainly would like to see the front office entertain some sort of conversation about him because i would ratehr go with him instead of either of the quarterbacks that are in the draft.

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He could always sign with the Rams to be another captain for the Redskins games.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
I keep wondering, if he were under the tutelage of a really good OC or HC that's offensive minded, say like Hue Jackson, could he become what he was supposed to become?

Just wondering out loud, not saying we should try for him, but with Hue, he could be a fit and may not cost an arm and a leg.



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At this stage, whether you have faith in RG under a new scenery setting would work out for him or not - his body is nothing I'd want to on this roster. Washington likely made his body more fragile and etc by playing him while hurt. This kid has taken hits like a rb would.

If we're going to make a project or obtain a project, then let's get one that hasn't been run into the dirt and suffered so many injuries.

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Josh McCown is consistently injured.



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Josh McCown is consistently injured.



So it's a good idea to double down?

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Josh McCown is consistently injured.



So it's a good idea to double down?


We triple down every year never fails.. you do know how we get to our 3d string QB every year right? We better have three NFL capable QB's especially with a reboot on the oline.


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If we could get him for RGFree it wouldn't be too bad.


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I would like to avoid the QB circus for at least one year.

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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
I would like to avoid the QB circus for at least one year.


it it nets wins.. i could care less.


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I would like to avoid the QB circus for at least one year.


it it nets wins.. i could care less.


RGIII isn't netting anyone wins in 2016. He needs a full on rebuild. He should go to the Cardinals and sit under Palmer for a year and pick up everything he can from Bruce Arians.

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RG3 is a running QB with a bad wheel. He doesn't seem interested in actually learning a professional system. He wants to improvise on the fly. Play fast and loose. Well, those days are over. College is over.

We will be running a fairly complicated system ourselves. One where pocket passing is vital. Reading a defense is vital. Busting your ASS is vital. I don't see RG3 doing that. IF he would. IF he'd sit on the bench and bust his ass LEARNING from this staff perhaps he could resurrect his career. That's not his style. He could have learned one hell of a lot from the Shanahans and then from Gruden. He didn't. Doesn't matter if you like your coach. I'm sure LOTS of QB's didn't like their coaches. Phil Simms loves Parcells NOW, but back in the day....You bust your ass and learn the scheme anyway. Also, it's said he has real trouble reading D's. Not sure if that's true, just one of those things you read.... big grain of salt. Still not a fan of bringing RG3 in.

We need arms not legs. I think we will be running the "numbers" or whatever you want to call the system that evolved from the "Air Coryell" offense. Hell Al Saunders was on Coryell's staff. He helped create the "greatest show on turf" offense. That gives me a pretty good idea of what these guys are looking to do. Throw downfield. A lot. Run the ball. Bengals had 18 rushing touchdowns last season, take away 3 from Dalton and their backs were certainly involved. Marshall Faulk was awesome running in that offense. I would think that any QB they bring in will have a throw first, THEN run attitude. I suppose we will see soon enough....

If the numbers or whatever is the way we are headed, that says a lot about what kind of offensive linemen they would be interested in.... big, powerful road-graders. Again we shall see.

I wouldn't be surprised if they try to seriously upgrade the RB position as well.


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Originally Posted By: cfrs15
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I would like to avoid the QB circus for at least one year.


it it nets wins.. i could care less.


RGIII isn't netting anyone wins in 2016. He needs a full on rebuild. He should go to the Cardinals and sit under Palmer for a year and pick up everything he can from Bruce Arians.


Arians might be one of the few that could get through to him. RG3 absolutely needs a complete rebuild. Needs to learn how to play without running around. Stand in the pocket, read the D, find your man and throw. As bad as he limps I seriously doubt he will ever run like he used to. That player is gone. He needs to either find a new way to play or get the hell out before he really gets hurt.


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Didn't know you were that close with RG3 you actually know what he wants to do and everything. That he doesn't want to be an NFL QB.

On the other note, has there been any inkling that we are talking with RG3 people?


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Didn't know you were that close with RG3 you actually know what he wants to do and everything. That he doesn't want to be an NFL QB.

On the other note, has there been any inkling that we are talking with RG3 people?


Yea.. everyone knows RG3 so well on here. Crazy talk.


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I don't think that "RG3" can become an NFL QB.

Robert Griffin may have a small chance..

The same can be said about Johnny "Football" vs Johnny Manziel.

Stop worrying about being a "famous person" and start putting in the work to be an NFL QB.


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Once they figure out football came first, maybe they'll remove their heads from their collective rear ends.


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Do you think, hell does anyone besides me think there will be a pretty good marker for RG..

I think there will be two or three teams that want him and will try to outbid each other.

There will be some that think "THEY" have the magic bullet to make it work with him. I really think Egos will rule the day. JMO of course


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Do you think, hell does anyone besides me think there will be a pretty good marker for RG..

I think there will be two or three teams that want him and will try to outbid each other.

There will be some that think "THEY" have the magic bullet to make it work with him. I really think Egos will rule the day. JMO of course


i do.


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Do you think, hell does anyone besides me think there will be a pretty good marker for RG..

I think there will be two or three teams that want him and will try to outbid each other.

There will be some that think "THEY" have the magic bullet to make it work with him. I really think Egos will rule the day. JMO of course


i do.



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While Griffin was a talented runner, I think some are downplaying his passing ability.

Assuming his knee hasn't completely ruined is ability to throw the ball, I still think he can be a good passer. Would just have to get rid of the running mentality.

I still wouldnt take a chance on him, but would understand why a team might want to buy low on him.


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Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Do you think, hell does anyone besides me think there will be a pretty good marker for RG..

I think there will be two or three teams that want him and will try to outbid each other.

There will be some that think "THEY" have the magic bullet to make it work with him. I really think Egos will rule the day. JMO of course


Daman, if Trent Richardson can keep finding work, then no doubt RGIII will. As much as I rip him, I do buy in a mini bidding war could unfold for has services. We'll see soon enough.

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I've heard only words like this.

You will have to pay over 45 mil for Osw...why go for him when you can get RG3 on the Cheap.

I haven't heard big numbers or action surrounding RG3 as a solution.

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I see no problem with signing RG3 to a reasonable contract to see if he can reclaim his promise. I wouldn't invest much, and I wouldn't pin the franchise's hopes on him unless/until he shows he can.


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There is zero chance that I'd wave anything more than veteran minimum at him.


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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
There is zero chance that I'd wave anything more than veteran minimum at him.


Absolutely, and I'm not even sure my wave of the vet minimum would be carried out with much enthusiasm or desire.

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I see no problem with signing Manziel to a reasonable contract to see if he can reclaim his promise. I wouldn't invest much, and I wouldn't pin the franchise's hopes on him unless/until he shows he can.


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i say we give RG3 a 2 year contract.


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There is zero chance that I'd wave anything more than veteran minimum at him.


Absolutely, and I'm not even sure my wave of the vet minimum would be carried out with much enthusiasm or desire.


Aye, it'd be more like: I'll throw vet minimum at my feet and see if he comes over to pick it up, then I let him know that RG3 is dead, there is only Reek. Reek does as he is told.


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Didn't know you were that close with RG3 you actually know what he wants to do and everything. That he doesn't want to be an NFL QB.

On the other note, has there been any inkling that we are talking with RG3 people?

Fine. He's been the PICTURE of a team first QB. First in last out.... oh wait, NO HE HASN'T. So far he's been a coach killer. When a player has a poor attitude and fails under two different coaches, it doesn't take a genius to figure out he's not all that in to busting ass. Gruden would rather play COLT than RG3. So where the hell do you get the idea he's anything different than what he's shown so far? A selfish ego driven run first QB that has a real problem learning NFL systems?

Why would we want a run first QB with a bad wheel? This offense wouldn't suit that kind of QB anyway.


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Vers you are absolutely correct. Johnny is REALLY stupid. He's right up there with Meathead.


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Yep thats exactly what I said rolleyes
Why I can't have a discussion with you.

What I don't know is that I don't know what is in his thought process. I guess since you are clairvoyant enough to always STATE MY OPINION FOR ME - I see how you know his opinions as well.

On the Manziel thing...we did not release him yet cause we are trying to get ANYTHING for him in trade...unlike KAP it will not cost the Broncos much at all. 5th, 6th or 7th conditional pick?

Trade would be good for Manziel...One hour junket to Vegas saywhat


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