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The Cleveland Browns have signed free agents offensive lineman Alvin Bailey and linebacker Justin Tuggle.
Bailey is 6-3, 320-pounds and entering his fourth NFL season out of Arkansas. Originally signed by Seattle as an undrafted free agent in 2013, Bailey has appeared in 42 regular season games with eight starts for the Seahawks. He also appeared in eight postseason contests with two starts. He has earned starts at RT, LT and LG and appeared as a reserve at RG during his career. He appeared in 15 regular season games last season with three starts. Bailey started five games in 2014 and helped the Seahawks lead the NFL and set a franchise record with 2,762 rushing yards. As a rookie, he appeared as a reserve in 14 regular season contests and all three postseason games (one start), while helping Seattle win Super Bowl XLVIII. Bailey started 38 games at Arkansas and blocked for the school’s first single-season combination 3,000-yard passer (Ryan Mallett) and 1,000-yard rusher (Knile Davis). A native of Broken Arrow, Okla., he graduated from Broken Arrow High School.
Tuggle is 6-3, 245-pounds and entering his fourth NFL season out of Kansas State. Originally signed by Houston as an undrafted free agent in 2013, Tuggle has appeared in 42 games with 11 starts for the Texans. He has logged 52 tackles, two fumble recoveries, one forced fumble and one interception, while adding 19 stops on special teams. Last year, he started two of his 11 games and registered 13 tackles, one fumble recovery and five special-teams tackles. Tuggle started his collegiate career as a quarterback at Boston College and played one season on defense after transferring to KSU. A native of Alpharetta, Ga., he graduated from Northview High School. Tuggle’s father, Jessie, played 14 seasons as a LB with Atlanta and was selected to five Pro Bowls. His brother, Grady Jarrett, is a DL for the Falcons. On a scale of one to ten, how are excited are we about these signings (one being more excited than ever and ten being "championship")?
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I like the sound of this Bailey kid if only because I get to root for someone from my town.
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You know you are good when your team decides not to give you a qualifying offer even though you are a restricted free agents (that happened to both of these players).
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Backups.
Tuggle was a backup to a rookie. Bailey was a backup to a guy that came out the same year as him.
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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So . . .
These two have a lot of upside, eh? Never heard of either of them, but welcome aboard!
(At least you aren't compensatory picks.) Tear it up.
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Backups.
Tuggle was a backup to a rookie. Bailey was a backup to a guy that came out the same year as him.
You say this like it's a bad thing. We identified guys we wanted and went out and got them. That's all that matters. Who cares if they are good or not?
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So . . .
These two have a lot of upside, eh? Never heard of either of them, but welcome aboard!
(At least you aren't compensatory picks.) Tear it up. Justin Tuggle is the son of Falcons great Jessie Tuggle.
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So . . .
These two have a lot of upside, eh? Never heard of either of them, but welcome aboard!
(At least you aren't compensatory picks.) Tear it up. they also don't affect 2017 comp picks as they were (as cfrs pointed out) untendered RFAs.
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The Replacements are starting to arrive. We should hold a fire-sale on all our good players and fill the team with this type of guy for the next 3 years, then we could REALLY build via the draft.
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I bet Schwartz feels PRETTY STUPID now.
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So . . .
These two have a lot of upside, eh? Never heard of either of them, but welcome aboard!
(At least you aren't compensatory picks.) Tear it up. they also don't affect 2017 comp picks as they were (as cfrs pointed out) untendered RFAs. NFL awards 33 compensatory picks to 13 teams for 2016 draft Cleveland Browns: 4th round (138), 5th round (172), 5th round (173) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...-for-2016-draft
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Bleh. We have lost Mack, Schwartz, Gipson, Benjamin, and Johnson Bademosi ..... and are also poised to lose Craig Robertson. Yeah, these guys sure do make me feel sick better. 
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Is this where that re-allocated Schwartz money is going to?
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off to a slow start...but at least we got a couple of guys we wanted. now for those pesky WR's we need. if Gordon comes back in shape and Pryor is decent that's two big WR's just need a couple more...then there is that o-line, CB, S, LB to address oh yea an another TE there ya go we set!
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Justin Tuggle could have an upside, but not too sure about Bailey... I need to watch some film on him.
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I am good with it. Would rather have guys that want to be here then guys that don't
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Gordon should be traded to the highest bidder, ASAP. (assuming he is reinstated)
Counting on Gordon is almost as insane as counting on Manziel. If we're starting over, there is no sense starting over with a problem child.
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off to a slow start...but at least we got a couple of guys we wanted. now for those pesky WR's we need. if Gordon comes back in shape and Pryor is decent that's two big WR's just need a couple more...then there is that o-line, CB, S, LB to address oh yea an another TE there ya go we set! Do yourself a favor and don't look at it like that. No doubt we have many needs. We have 11 picks. Can we fix 3 of those? I think so. Maybe 4. In the end, we may pick up another pick or two before it is over.
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Gordon should be traded to the highest bidder, ASAP. (assuming he is reinstated)
Counting on Gordon is almost as insane as counting on Manziel. If we're starting over, there is no sense starting over with a problem child. Or we have nothing to lose so we should see if his head is screwed on straight.
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off to a slow start...but at least we got a couple of guys we wanted. now for those pesky WR's we need. if Gordon comes back in shape and Pryor is decent that's two big WR's just need a couple more...then there is that o-line, CB, S, LB to address oh yea an another TE there ya go we set! Do yourself a favor and don't look at it like that. No doubt we have many needs. We have 11 picks. Can we fix 3 of those? I think so. Maybe 4. In the end, we may pick up another pick or two before it is over. lol I know was just poking fun. but we do have a lot of holes to fill..3 or 4? man I hope we can fill a couple more than that. I really don't mind the complete tear down as long as we stick with it and not rebuild next year...keep em together for at least five years then judge 
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Gordon should be traded to the highest bidder, ASAP. (assuming he is reinstated)
Counting on Gordon is almost as insane as counting on Manziel. If we're starting over, there is no sense starting over with a problem child. Or we have nothing to lose so we should see if his head is screwed on straight. If he slips up again, he's done and that's it. I say, after he's been out of the news pretty much and seems to have stayed outta trouble - trade him while you can, get what you can get... while you can. He's one "oh I'll just go and hang out for a little bit" night away from another mistake and another headline. JMO
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idk guys. M. Irvin had lots of problems with that !@#$#@ and pulled himself out of it and went on to one hell of a career. Gordon is that kind of talent. I would hold on to him and see.
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Backups.
Tuggle was a backup to a rookie. Bailey was a backup to a guy that came out the same year as him.
You say this like it's a bad thing. We identified guys we wanted and went out and got them. That's all that matters. Who cares if they are good or not? I laughed, so thanks for that. haha
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Tuggle .. dont know much about.. Doubt he sees much playing time outside of special teams.
I like the Bailey pickup. See a few people say they were shocked when he went undrafted, as they thought he was the best Guard to come out that class in 13.
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The Replacements are starting to arrive. We should hold a fire-sale on all our good players and fill the team with this type of guy for the next 3 years, then we could REALLY build via the draft. Impressive....Two big name FA. I just hope the Democrats don't get the minimum wage raised again.
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The Browns seem fixated on offensive linemen from Seattle. It's probably because they all prove to be so good once they get here. 
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Every Seahawks fan I've seen comment on Bailey said he was a nice get for us and they'd hoped he'd stay in Seattle. Seahawks fans seemed to think he was pretty solid.
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The Browns seem fixated on offensive linemen from Seattle. It's probably because they all prove to be so good once they get here. What is that saying,the defination of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
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We need depth at both spots. As long as the money isn't crazy, I think these could be good moves.
Losing our FA's still sucks, but we can't hold that against these signings.
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Depth. Bailey is a power scheme fit who can sub as a guard or tackle. As much as I like Miller as a LT I'm not sure keeping him on the 53 as a backup who can only sub one position is feasible. I like the move in the context of what it is.
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...I was doing some research on Tuggle, and I just read that he was a college QB until 2012. I'm not sure what it means, but I thought it was interesting. Link
The Texans desperately need depth at linebacker. Justin can thank his lucky stars for the decision he made to switch to the defense. The switch from quarterback to linebacker took place prior to Kansas State’s tilt versus Arkansas in the January, 2012 Cotton Bowl. One might think that the transition from quarterback to linebacker would be difficult. But, not so says the Alpharetta, Georgia native.
“I don’t really miss it to tell you the truth,” says Tuggle. “I’m having fun playing defense. It’s a lot more reaction than other things going on than (at) quarterback. Quarterback is a lot of responsibility. You got to know the ins and outs of every single position. You got to just really command everything. It’s the same with different positions. But, defensive is more reaction. I like to go out there, see something, react, and make plays.”
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The Browns seem fixated on offensive linemen from Seattle. It's probably because they all prove to be so good once they get here. How many have we got from Seattle? I thought it was just the one? or am I wrong?
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atleast 2 turds from there no idea why we brought them in they sucked bad lol Bailey however can play and he has the right attitude for the line.
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Meanwhile, Seattle just re-signed their starting center, Patrick Lewis, who they claimed off the Browns' practice squad in 2014.
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Seattle's OL has been poor for awhile now. Acquiring their backups is not a sound plan.
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The Browns seem fixated on offensive linemen from Seattle. It's probably because they all prove to be so good once they get here. How many have we got from Seattle? I thought it was just the one? or am I wrong? Michael Bowie, Paul McQuistan and John Moffitt. If I recall, the Browns failed Moffitt on his physical and there were reports it was done intentionally or something goofy.
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Bailey and Shelton are out celebrating at OCB as we speak...
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The Browns seem fixated on offensive linemen from Seattle. It's probably because they all prove to be so good once they get here. How many have we got from Seattle? I thought it was just the one? or am I wrong? Michael Bowie, Paul McQuistan and John Moffitt. If I recall, the Browns failed Moffitt on his physical and there were reports it was done intentionally or something goofy. ohhh...ok whelp I just remembered the McQuistan fella
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