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1. The Browns received three compensatory draft picks, giving them 10, in 2014: 2, 32, 65, 99, 138, 141, 172, 173, 176, 233. They had five picks in the fifth round.
2. Before this draft, the Browns have had six compensatory picks since 1994, the lowest total in the NFL. Baltimore leads with 44. Adding picks is one of the reasons the Browns didn't mind losing some free agents this season. They may receive four extra picks in 2017.
Picks matter, not free agents This part, plus much of the rest of that section - it is sooo freaking flawed, I can't even fathom it. They value compensatory picks more than their free agents? They determined more than a month ago that "it was too late" to keep our guys? Ummmm... no. Until they stop taking calls, it is not too late. If you upped your guaranteed money to Mack, you could have kept him. If you kept your contract on the table for Schwartz, you could have kept him. I'll give them Benji & Gipson - they are eminently replaceable, even with Day 2 compensation picks, but not Mack & Schwartz. Letting players who are Top5 at their position walk because you value compensation picks more than the player is utter stupidity. Mack and Schwartz are soooo good that this sorry team won only 3 games last season. And you want me to cry that they are gone!!! The compensatory picks cannot produce any worse results. Mr. Day of the Dawg, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. At least we know he's read "The Puppy Who Lost His Way."
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pure rumor stuff thats floating around but sounding like Kap is going to the Broncos and Mark Sanchez will be part of the trade along with a 3rd round pick. again pure rumor but it is interesting. Best thing that has happened to Cleveland football in a months. hear hear! I second that 
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WTH is this? An olive branch? A starter for an honest discussion? Or, a criticism of anyone who has been skeptical of the moves the Browns have made? he will go there and succeed and everyojne can talk about abut how Sashi let a g=franchise QB slip through his fingers. You are another poster who ripped me and others this summer for questioning the direction of the Browns. A lot of the guys quit posting because you guys were so cruel. Well, you don't scare me w/your insults. I will stand up for what I believe and the more you try to demean my opinions, the more I will fight back. So produce the posts that Texas asked you to produce. Pretty simple.
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WTH is this? An olive branch? A starter for an honest discussion? Or, a criticism of anyone who has been skeptical of the moves the Browns have made? he will go there and succeed and everyojne can talk about abut how Sashi let a g=franchise QB slip through his fingers. You are another poster who ripped me and others this summer for questioning the direction of the Browns. A lot of the guys quit posting because you guys were so cruel. Well, you don't scare me w/your insults. I will stand up for what I believe and the more you try to demean my opinions, the more I will fight back. So produce the posts that Texas asked you to produce. Pretty simple. he cant because there are none.... just another reason I come here less and less... its just not worth it to me... this used to be a good place for information and discussion not its just arguments and look at me, look at me.
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On the news this morning on WKYC, it was reported that Kap doesn't think coming here (to the browns) would be a wise move if he has to take the kind of pay cut they are discussing.
As always, it's about the money
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this used to be a good place for information and discussion not its just arguments and look at me, look at me. You're right it used to be a much more civil place. Then unfortunately the official site shut down.
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On the news this morning on WKYC, it was reported that Kap doesn't think coming here (to the browns) would be a wise move if he has to take the kind of pay cut they are discussing.
As always, it's about the money
You only reported part of the story...COLIN KAEPERNICK COOLING ON CLEVELAND BROWNS? Mar 13, 2016 link San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick is hesitant to take a major pay cut to join the Cleveland Browns because of Cleveland’s lack of movement in free agency, according to Nate Ulrich of The Akron Beacon Journal. It was reported yesterday that the Browns would be happy to have Kaepernick as their quarterback, but only if he restructured the six-year, $114 million contract he signed with the 49ers in 2014. That deal carries $61 million in guaranteed money, so Cleveland would obviously prefer it be reworked. But according to Ulrich, Kaepernick is not impressed with how the Browns have handled this offseason as three key members of the offense departed via free agency. Pro Bowl center Alex Mack signed with the Atlanta Falcons, wide receiver Travis Benjamin inked a contract with the San Diego Chargers and tackle Mitchell Schwartz went to the Kansas City Chiefs. And yet, Kaepernick would restructure his deal with the Denver Broncos “without hesitation” according to the report. That makes sense, especially since Denver just won the Super Bowl and the Browns could easily draft a quarterback with the second overall pick in next month’s draft. Either way, the Colin Kaepernick sweepstakes are far from over, so stay tuned to Campus Sports for further updates!
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I had already quoted his post. Here it is again: he will go there and succeed and everyojne can talk about abut how Sashi let a g=franchise QB slip through his fingers. How would you interpret that, Rish? Is he talking football? Or, is he using hyperbole to mock how idiotic the posters who have been critical of Sashi's moves? It's that simple....
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I only addressed what I heard on the TV this morning. That's it.
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But according to Ulrich, Kaepernick is not impressed with how the Browns have handled this offseason as three key members of the offense departed via free agency. Pro Bowl center Alex Mack signed with the Atlanta Falcons, wide receiver Travis Benjamin inked a contract with the San Diego Chargers and tackle Mitchell Schwartz went to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Kaepernick is thinking like a QB who has 5 yrs experience playing in the NFL and who is coming off of 3 surgeries in the off season to repair his damaged body parts.
It is understandable that Kaepernick is concerned about his longevity and he knows that the Browns just let 40% of their offensive line walk away. Of particular importance to a QB is his center, who calls out the line blocking, that protects the QB.
When stories about Kaepernick being linked to Hue Jackson and the possibility of coming to Cleveland first started to appear, the Browns still had Mack and Schwartz and most, or at least Kaepernick thought the Browns would resign Mack and Schwartz.
Once Kaepernick got a chance to see the Browns Big Brain front office in action, he very likely figured he would be a bone to be chewed if he went to Cleveland.
If Kaepernick is concerned about his longevity he might want to steer clear of Cleveland.
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Give us someone cerebral, with an arm that's tall enough to see over his team mates and hates to lose. No idea who that is, but i know who it ain't. Yeah it ain't Josh McCown. Kap is better and healthier than McCown. We aren't going anywhere with who we have this year even with a rookie QB pick at #2. We better have 3 NFL quality QB's ready to go this year.
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When stories about Kaepernick being linked to Hue Jackson and the possibility of coming to Cleveland first started to appear, the Browns still had Mack and Schwartz and most, or at least Kaepernick thought the Browns would resign Mack and Schwartz.
Once Kaepernick got a chance to see the Browns Big Brain front office in action, he very likely figured he would be a bone to be chewed if he went to Cleveland.
This assumes that it wasn't just the player's agent and quite possibly Jed York trying to create a market for Kap in order to ship him and his contract out of town. Possibly trying to put pressure on Denver to up their 4th round offer for Kaepernick. Kaepernick to Cleveland never made sense in the 3 -4 year rebuild we are entering. I'll still be shocked and perplexed if this trade actually ever goes through. Michael Silver of NFL.com reported that it's "all quiet" on the trade front for Kaepernick. Silver noted the Denver Broncos are "holding firm" with an offer of a fourth-round draft pick, while there has been no movement from the Cleveland Browns. Link
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If we offered to take Kaepernick's full contract on, do you think he would currently be on our team?
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If we offered to take Kaepernick's full contract on, do you think he would currently be on our team? It seems the Brown's are starting to take a hard ball approach to FA's. We have 40mil in cap space and if Kap want's a big portion of that..too bad...we'll pass. Kap needs to take a cut in pay to resurrect his game. IMO.
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If we offered to take Kaepernick's full contract on, do you think he would currently be on our team? It seems the Brown's are starting to take a hard ball approach to FA's. We have 40mil in cap space and if Kap want's a big portion of that..too bad...we'll pass. Kap needs to take a cut in pay IMO. Right. But the poster I was responding to (mac) said that Kaepernick also doesn't want to come here because we don't have good players. If we were willing to take Kaepernick's full contract he would be on the team right now and talking about this is where he wanted to be all along. It's all about the money at this point.
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I bet that he has his "lowest" acceptable contract in his head, and that lowest number would be for a good team, like the Broncos.
I doubt that he's coming here for his minimum. For a team like the Browns, his demands start at the minimum plus a premium for walking into a disaster site, with a far lower chance of success.
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If we offered to take Kaepernick's full contract on, do you think he would currently be on our team? It seems the Brown's are starting to take a hard ball approach to FA's. We have 40mil in cap space and if Kap want's a big portion of that..too bad...we'll pass. Kap needs to take a cut in pay IMO. Right. But the poster I was responding to (mac) said that Kaepernick also doesn't want to come here because we don't have good players. If we were willing to take Kaepernick's full contract he would be on the team right now and talking about this is where he wanted to be all along. We aren't willing to take his full contract, and if Kap does get a deal done with the Brown's with a pay cut he'll still say this where he wanted to be all along. 
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I bet that he has his "lowest" acceptable contract in his head, and that lowest number would be for a good team, like the Broncos.
I doubt that he's coming here for his minimum. For a team like the Browns, his demands start at the minimum plus a premium for walking into a disaster site, with a far lower chance of success. Either way, if we take his current contract and don't ask him for a pay cut, he is on the team right now. The talk about him not wanting to come here because of talent is nonsense. It's all about money.
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Kap doesnt have to take a pay cut.
Why should he do any team a favor? SF signed him to that contract.
If they don't plan on starting him, I assume they will cut him.
Then we can offer him that 7-8 million and keep our 3rd round pick.
He'll probably end up in Denver for around the same amount of money though.
If I was Denver I'd just pay a little more for Fitzpatrick.
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I bet that he has his "lowest" acceptable contract in his head, and that lowest number would be for a good team, like the Broncos.
I doubt that he's coming here for his minimum. For a team like the Browns, his demands start at the minimum plus a premium for walking into a disaster site, with a far lower chance of success. If Denver's existing proposal is agreed upon, I believe Denver would have to go get a 4th round pick to trade. Way I understand it they only have a compensatory fourth. To match Cleveland, Denver must give up a second round. I'm curious if the propose trades changes April 1 after Kaep's 2016 contract agreement takes affect.
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I bet that he has his "lowest" acceptable contract in his head, and that lowest number would be for a good team, like the Broncos.
I doubt that he's coming here for his minimum. For a team like the Browns, his demands start at the minimum plus a premium for walking into a disaster site, with a far lower chance of success. If Denver's existing proposal is agreed upon, I believe Denver would have to go get a 4th round pick to trade. Way I understand it they only have a compensatory fourth. To match Cleveland, Denver must give up a second round. I'm curious if the propose trades changes April 1 after Kaep's 2016 contract agreement takes affect. If Kaepernick is still on the 49ers on April 1st (and they haven't agreed to push back his guarantee date), then my guess is that he will be on the 49ers for the 2016 season. Teams don't usually pay a guy $12 million and then trade them.
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Kap doesnt have to take a pay cut.
Why should he do any team a favor? SF signed him to that contract.
If they don't plan on starting him, I assume they will cut him.
Then we can offer him that 7-8 million and keep our 3rd round pick.
He'll probably end up in Denver for around the same amount of money though.
If I was Denver I'd just pay a little more for Fitzpatrick. I believe Denver made a low offer to Fitz who turned it down. I'll bet Cleveland blocked Denver from making a trade waiting to see what happens near April 1. If SF waves Kaep, Elway must do some serious house cleaning to out bid Cleveland. I think everything sits until April 1.
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Can Denver afford to take Kaps contract in a trade?
SF may take less from Denver just to get something for him before the 1st.
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Can Denver afford to take Kaps contract in a trade?
SF may take less from Denver just to get something for him before the 1st. I believe Kaepernick would have to renegotiate with either us or Denver.
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If Kaepernick is still on the 49ers on April 1st (and they haven't agreed to push back his guarantee date), then my guess is that he will be on the 49ers for the 2016 season. Teams don't usually pay a guy $12 million and then trade them. Agree. I think everything sits idle until April 1. I think Cleveland is in the driver seat unless another team appears. Denver must trim their roster or up their trade to a second.
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We want him to take a pay cut.
Denver needs him to.
He'd be stupid not to take a pay cut to go to the SB champs..
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Can Denver afford to take Kaps contract in a trade?
SF may take less from Denver just to get something for him before the 1st. I believe Kaepernick would have to renegotiate with either us or Denver. Way I understand it. SF likes Cleveland's offer. Kaep likes Denver's contract offer. Kaep's agent is trying to get Cleveland to sweeten it's proposal. Cleveland can easily out bid Denver if it goes to FA. SF must decide whether to retain Kaep or make a trade. Best trade offer is Cleveland. SF can accept Cleveland's trade and agree to pay some of Kaep's salary. It is possible they can do the same for Denver, but accepting Denver's 3rd or 4th pick doesn't make sense.
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We want him to take a pay cut.
Denver needs him to.
He'd be stupid not to take a pay cut to go to the SB champs.. Obviously Denver is in better shape than Cleveland, but they are half the team they were last year. Repeating is a tall order. Cleveland has one ace and that is Hue. Kaep's expectations in Denver would be far greater than in Cleveland. I think Hue is a better fit and more likely to tailor a team around Kaep.
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Also, if Kap becomes a FA, I don't think it'll be just us and Denver interested.
I see the Jets and maybe LA showing interest as well.
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Also, if Kap becomes a FA, I don't think it'll be just us and Denver interested.
I see the Jets and maybe LA showing interest as well. Yup. The only way we get Kaep is by trade. That said, I'm perfectly content with us not being able to pull off the trade. He brings nothing to the table.
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Here's what going to happen, I have it on very reputable sources or is that irreputable, I get those confused.
Denver is going to trade their 3rd and 4th to SF for Kaep.
Denver is going to rework Kaep's deal to something palatable.
We are going to trade JT to Denver for their 1st and Kaep.
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so, we lose JT and get stuck with Kap and all we get is a 1st rounder?
That sucks.
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... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
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Look at it this way, it's for the greater good.
JT's greater good anyway.
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I bet that he has his "lowest" acceptable contract in his head, and that lowest number would be for a good team, like the Broncos.
I doubt that he's coming here for his minimum. For a team like the Browns, his demands start at the minimum plus a premium for walking into a disaster site, with a far lower chance of success. I think you may have just described Schwartz.
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We are going to trade JT to Denver for their 1st and Kaep. I wonder what magnitude that would measure on the Richter scale. Off the charts, most likely. Our offence would look a lot different next season...
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sucks but makes sense if we doing the complete tear down thingy...not the first I heard of trading Joe for as much as we can. sacrifice the short term for the long term...is what I have been seeing here and there online
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I'm sure Kaepernick's agent would love negotiating a deal with one team, only to be traded to another team.
This scenario is far fetched.
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It's beyond far fetched but after all, that was the point.
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Broncos way off on comp (see @MikeSilver timeline), Browns never made a formal trade offer and contract an issue. No one in any rush. " Never made a formal trade offer."
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