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Yes, I read them and then I researched for facts. What I am finding is a mix of facts and BS.

Since you refuse to provide links to the supposed facts you state, it reads like the ramblings of a mad man.

I don't consider myself to be weak minded but I am beginning to wonder if your.

In what way? The Republicans and Democrats are almost identical in policy. They just argue over minutiae.

The Republican party continues to move further left, and not in any way that I would consider valuable and meaningful. Oh, they talk a good game ..... sometimes ..... but they get a job in DC, and just roll over for those in power. Even if someone rolls into DC with the idea of trying to force change they are rather quickly shut down. Want a committee appointment of chair? Fall in line, Want any position in leadership? Fall in line. (Oh, and the Democrats are the same way)

The 2 parties do have some differences, mainly on some social and Constitutional issues, and these are important. However, in policy, the 2 sides are far, far closer than anyone on either side wants to admit.

The reason for this is probably because it is the same 10 guys paying for lunch, apartments and campaign needs for both sides of the isle.

Yep, and I don't see it ending any time soon.

I wonder if Trump will still be able to buy Congressmen and Senators when he's President?

And I wonder if Trump, who wants to make America great again and has been on both sides of this issue, won't be the first person in Washington not owned by either side and will put an end to the practice.

Well, if he has any problems he can just tell those who support him to assault them and he'll pay their legal fees.

Murica!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxIdUzmZusY

Trump/Cruz
You Choose

I'm not choosing either. I'm not choosing Hillary either. If people wish to vote for fools that's their business. Not me.

Then stand back as the rest of us take America back and bring it up to its true potential...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0iNfePmLcg

Murica!

Riiiiiiiight. Not a chance.

[quote] I would love for him to put the screws to Hillary and run as an independent, but that would probably mean a Trump victory and I don't like that at all./quote]

I wonder what the outcome is when you calculate people like me on the right who won't vote for Trump either.

Definitely makes it more interesting, doncha think?

Same outcome as when the Conservatives stayed home for Romney, it's a vote for the other side.

and this is why Ted Cruz is so unpopular with his colleagues. He actually does what he said he'd do when he got there.

Which is why I'm voting for him.

I just can't see 'another side' when considering Trump for office. I don't believe for a minute he's conservative at all.

and I'm not staying home. I'll be writing in Ted Cruz if he's not the nominee.

Your getting it 40 their both ripping us off, and they need to go...

Will get stuck with Hillary, Trump is unstable and Cruz well he can't beat Trump, and Trump won't get enough Black or Latino votes and with Trump in the race these folks will turn out in numbers unseen before I got Trump getting whipped by Hillary but they both suck if its any consolation Hillary just sucks less....

The republican party is on the verge of imploding if they wanted to improve their party image and save the party they should show up Monday mourning with legislation in hand to end Citizens United and end all lobbyists that just might save them, but both parties are in big big trouble for the damage they have done to the working families of this country, and they should be.

It's long past time both parties were taken to the wood shed, IMO.

The GOP is going 'the way of the dodo' (quote from the bad guy in Indianna Jones & The Last Crusade).

Or the whig party to be more specific. They've been given the majority in both houses and they still roll over and give in to everything they were sent there to oppose.

If they had a little more spine Trump wouldn't have the traction he has.

They created the monster and now it's eating them.

Here is a link to the proof you seem hell bent to get as to whether or not we the tax payers of this country sell technologies to commercial entities. So yeah we fund inventions or medical treatments to pharm interests for commercial use. You will find this paragraph at the bottom of the CDC's web page explaining the process they go through in the transfer of technologies they invent...

Financial Return

What happens at this stage? After a license is negotiated post-license compliance must be maintained to ensure the scheduled development of the technology, payment of royalties, and compliance to the license agreement. Based on the terms negotiated in the agreement, a percentage of royalties will go to the inventor, while a portion will go to the originating laboratory for that technology. This allows funding to be reinvested into CDC for the development of additional technologies that can meet other public health needs.

http://www.cdc.gov/od/science/technology...financialreturn

Not to mention I provided a rather long list of links for you to research for yourself. (Don't have to take my word for it).

Your problem is that it doesn't meet up with what you want to believe and so you resist facts in favor of your beliefs. We all do it try to resist.

Having said that I repeat we pay for much of the research that is then sold back to us at inflated prices. That sir is a FACT, as in not BS.

At the end of the day I don't think your quite up to reading my posts yet.

The Truth About Corporate Tax Rates
The tax structure needs to be repaired to eliminate bad incentives that threaten our economy.
By David Brodwin
April 4, 2012, at 2:32 p.m.
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David Brodwin is a cofounder and board member of American Sustainable Business Council.

A furious debate rages between those wanting to cut taxes on U.S. corporations and those hoping to raise them. The two sides come armed with opposing and contradictory "facts." Some claim U.S. corporate taxes rank highest in the developed world. Others argue the opposite. When we cut through the rhetoric, a clear but complex answer emerges: Corporate taxes should be increased for most companies—and decreased for a few. The tax structure needs to be repaired to eliminate bad incentives that threaten our economy.

Those urging lower taxes are right to argue that our economy stagnates if taxes are too high. High taxes discourage investment and risk-taking. But how high is too high? Many economists agree that when tax rates soar above 70 percent, growth suffers. Cutting taxes at this level definitely stimulates growth. However, these same economists also agree that when tax rates dip below 30 percent, further cuts don't boost the economy. Entrepreneurs and investors simply don't respond to an additional incentive. They are already as strongly incented as they can possibly be.

[See a collection of political cartoons on the economy.]

American history supports these economists' conclusions. The economy took off dramatically in the 1960s when top marginal rates were slashed from the 90 percent level. But when taxes were cut sharply from relatively modest levels early in President George W. Bush's term, no growth resulted.

The real issue lies in understanding the huge gap between the "nominal rate" (the list price) and the "real rate" (the tax rate that most companies actually pay.) These two rates diverge widely. The nominal federal tax rate on the largest corporations is now 35 percent. State taxes, on average, bump this to 39.2 percent. This nominal rate ranks as the highest among developed countries.

[Read the U.S. News debate: Is Obama's Corporate Tax Plan A Good Idea?]

However, no major company really pays the nominal rate—just as no one walks into a car dealership expecting to pay sticker price. Big companies enjoy a huge buffet of credits, shelters, deductions, and other preferences that reduce their rate to an average of 13 percent. Many profitable companies pay no federal income tax at all. Regardless of our nominal rate, our real corporate tax rate is among the lowest. Further cuts cannot stimulate growth.

Moreover, cutting corporate tax rates would create two new problems. First, further reductions in federal budgets would directly undermine America's competitiveness. (After 20-plus years of tax cuts, there's little "fat" left to excise.) For example, federal belt-tightening has led states to slash support for higher education. College tuition has skyrocketed, far outpacing family income. Today's college students struggle to get the education they need to hold well-paying technical jobs, and many must take on massive debt to pay their tuition.

[See a collection of political cartoons on the budget and deficit.]

The second problem: The corporate income tax does not affect all businesses equally. Large corporations pay much lower tax rates than small businesses, because they can exploit loopholes and establish offshore operations. However, small businesses provide more new private sector jobs, and function as the main employers in many parts of the country. Further, the tax code shields old industries at the expense of new more innovative sectors, and it protects industries that burden the rest of society. Why should we subsidize oil rather than renewable energy? Why should we subsidize corn syrup that promotes obesity and drives up healthcare costs?

The problem with the corporate tax code is not what many think. Frankly, we can change the nominal tax rate to practically anything. It doesn't matter since hardly any corporations pay the nominal rate. What matters is this: Bring up the real tax rate (what companies actually pay) to support needed investments in productivity and competitiveness. Stop penalizing small business. And, end the gimmicks and loopholes that encourage investment in damaging business practices and obsolete industries.

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/econ...orate-tax-rates


Yeah lets lower the tax rate for big business lets further screw ourselves for their benefit.. Some of you guys are just plain NUTS.

so what you're saying is that you support the GOP grid locking everything?

and since they caved to actually doing their job, trump became the guy?

you guys are actually proud to not compromise or get anything done?

jeez. no wonder your party is dying.

I don't disagree with what your saying swish I would add that the democratic party isn't far behind the Republicans they both suffer with profound corruption geared towards the economic collapse of the middle class. And that is systemic to both parties, they are both active participants in the destruction of the middle class, and that more so then anything will be their undoing IMO.

What little has been done over the past 7 years has further degraded the middle class. Its actually something both parties actively and openly engage in, while we argue about 2nd amendment rights they watch as we see our wages and benefits evaporate into corporate profit, with their blessing.

Hillary is the lessor of 2 evils and so is the democratic party for that matter. In fact one could easily argue that the party itself has their hand squarely on the scales in favor of the inside player. While Hillary has indeed taken the hogs share of the delegates she started with a 450 delegate lead before the 1st vote was cast if that doesn't smack at a thumb on the scale what does. I suppose that if your for that particular candidate then its OK, but is it fair? Not hardly.

Does it give the voter the sense that their vote don't count? You bet it does!

I digress though Hillary is equally corrupt to or maybe even more corrupt than her republican counterparts, until we break away from the corruption will continue to lose and our pain will continue under her leadership, because it has to, in order to satisfy the people she is beholding too. And that is what did in the Republicans and it will soon enough do in the Democrats as well.

This election is all about how bad do we lose, but make no mistake we will lose, Hillary and Trump aren't worth spit, sad to say.

maybe not, but like i said before bro, as much as politicians are snakes, i can't vote for somebody who is racist, sexist, and xenophobic.

i just can't.

Me either, nor can I vote for a pathological liar. Not to mention he is equally corrupt and admits it. He just used to play from the other side of the fence thats all.

He said something the other day too that got my ears up he said he didn't know if he would take PAC money in the general election. I took that to mean if the price was right he would engage in politics as usual, you know like Hillary does when she defends taking PAC money she simply says everyone else does it and Obama did it too. Great defense for openly taking bribe money, don't you think?

Would you vote for somebody who is old, fat, stupid, and ugly?

I'm not running for anything.

I'd vote for ya GM!

(he says as he slinks away and hides)

sure i would.

He already said he's voting for Hillary!

All this Trump protesting is hysterical! One can only imagine if Obama would have been protested at this level, the whole country would have been called "racist".

Gheeez...what an incredible double standard we have in this country.

I would not vote for GM!

Obama already bailed them out once with my tax money and now they want my vote?

Oh, wait.
nevermind.

The job of an elected representative is to go to Washington and do what they were elected to do based on what they campaigned on.

The only thing I can think of that Boehner didn't give Obama was a [insert lewd comment here].

If those on the right felt that they were represented by those they elected they wouldn't be in the trouble they are.

Symbolic vote after symbolic vote on Obamacare doesn't mean anything if when the president (should that be capitalized? I genuinely don't know) submits a budget that would reach to Mars and back if dollar were stacked on dollar you roll over and ask for your tummy to be rubbed like a puppy.

In this case a golden retriever, cause that's pretty close to Boehner's skin tone.

Thus we came up with the word RINO's.
Republicans in name only.

How could it be deemed racist?

The majority of people protesting trump is white people.

Do you not remember the blacks protesting against Obama before?

The only double standard here is you.

Lol damn Ted you had to go after dudes horrible tanning job too? Lol savage bro

More liberal emotional thinking, lies and half truths.

Is Trump xenophobic because he wants to protect the American People from Muslim Extremist Terrorists? He works daily, all around the planet with people of different races and nationalities, successfully I might add.

Is Trump Racist because he wants to get immigration under control at our southern border as illegals from other nations flood our country? Is he racist because southern nations empty out their prisons and send them north to America?

Is he sexist like the President we once had who pressured female subordinates to have sex with him in the White House as his wife covered for him and crucified the women who complained?

Tanning job? Dude looks like he rolled around in a bunch of cheezits!

we've already been over your falsified information.

a thousand times on this board. give it up.

You are the one who spews half truths constantly.
When you are called on it, you resort to infantile statements like this.

I don't care how you vote but lying about the competition is foolish and typical of how a Liberal/Progressive responds to truth.

please, i don't lie on the board.

but you go ahead and call yourself a christian while supporting somebody who isn't remotely christian like.

at least i get why Ted supports Cruz. i have no idea why you would support someone like Trump.

Like a rug you don't.

Just yesterday you said Trump said he wants to ban all Muslims from America when the TRUTH is he said he wants to end all Muslim immigration to America, TEMPORARILY, until we know for sure they are not coming to kill us. We have no way of knowing who they actually are right now!

You lied or at least told a half truth and you do it all the time.

If you said you disagree with Trump temporarily shutting down Muslim immigration, I would see it as your opinion. But when you spew a half truth or lie and then yell Racist, I will call you on it every time!