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Why would I want to have a discussion with you? Sycophants bore me.
It's not very hard to read your mind EO. You haven't changed it in years. Every HC hire is genius. Every front office move is exactly correct. In your mind the Browns never make mistakes. Until a particular individual is fired or leaves that is. Then you may grudgingly admit they weren't correct or weren't the best player ever. While on the Browns though, no one can do any wrong.
As far as Johnny, we will end up releasing him because no one is beating down our door to trade for him. Why? He's the dumbest player in the league and he's a WOMAN BEATER. See anyone rushing out to sign Ray Rice?
Elway may be desperate but he's not desperate enough to trade for Manziel. If he is, he deserves what he gets.
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Former Redskins QB Robert Griffin III visits Browns
By Conor Orr Around The NFL Writer Published: March 19, 2016 at 05:36 p.m. Updated: March 19, 2016 at 06:11 p.m.
The Browns became the second club to host former Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III and did so on a visit in Cleveland this weekend, according to NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport.
Though no signing is imminent, this is by far the most interesting development in Griffin's offseason schedule so far. Clearly, the Browns have shown interest in veteran options and may not be a lock to select their future passer with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. Cleveland was also mentioned in conjunction with 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick.
The team's new head coach, Hue Jackson, hinted at his mindset on Friday during Cal's pro day. Jackson was there to check out Jared Goff, a top quarterback prospect, among others. According to Cleveland.com, Jackson was also on hand to meet with Griffin this weekend alongside executive vice president Sashi Brown, personnel head Andrew Berry and Pep Hamilton.
"I know everybody wants us to say it's going to be a QB, and maybe it will be," Jackson told NFL Media during the event. "But it also may not be."
The Jets also hosted Griffin earlier this month.
Those expecting a resolution on Cleveland's quarterbacking situation should relax. The Browns are in the process of evaluating just about every available option at quarterback, and have shown no irresponsible sense of urgency during their first offseason together under Brown and chief strategy officer Paul DePodesta.
Griffin, who beat out Andrew Luck for offensive rookie of the year in 2012, isintriguing thanks to his dominant rookie season. Griffin threw for 3,200 yards, 20 touchdowns and five interceptions back in 2012, and rushed for an additional 815 yards and seven touchdowns. In the three seasons that followed, Griffin played in 22 games, going 5-15 as a starter. His completion percentage dipped and he hurled 18 picks in those 22 appearances.
For some, the opportunity to pair him with Jackson could be enticing. Jackson has a fantastic reputation with quarterbacks, creating innovative wrinkles within offenses and with instilling confidence. For Griffin, that has to be music to his ears.
His situation, however, will be complicated. The quarterback market is at a slow boil for now, but could explode at any minute depending on which direction the Broncos and Jets decide to take. The 49ers could enter the ring at any minute as well. Don't expect this to be the last time we hear Griffin's name.
Not really a surprise.. They gotta look under every rock I guess.
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bring him as a back up and let either Shaw or Davis go...i am ok with that
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It just keeps getting better!
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I am not a fan of RG3, but I would rather have him as a FA than giving up anything for Kap, and I mean anything, even a conditional 7th round pick.
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Yeah, I gotta agree w/that one.
I don't like either qb, but getting RGIII as a free agent is better than trading for Kap.
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I'm just glad we didn't win the RG3 sweepstakes the first time around.
Although giving up all those 1st's the way we pick 1st's it would probably be a wash.
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It just keeps getting better! Honestly, I don't think it means much., Look at what we have behind center (of course, when we get a center)and think about it. Why not take a look. Can't hurt. Frankly, I want them to turn over every rock to find something of value. I don't believe RGIII is that guy but maybe Jackson can do something with him. Based on things that happened in Washington, I'm not sure I want this RG around someone young that needs mentoring.
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no, we got McCown to mentor whoever we draft.
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I'm just glad we didn't win the RG3 sweepstakes the first time around.
Although giving up all those 1st's the way we pick 1st's it would probably be a wash. If we had won the sweepstakes the first time around, chances are everything would have been different for both the Browns and Griffin. Shanahan messed up Griffin's injury, and RG III hasn't been the same since and ... well.. we know what has happened since then for the Browns, not to mention the possibility of Jerry Jones ending up with Manziel.. 
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RG3 needs to learn how to protect himself. If he did wind up with the Browns, he'd probably get folded up running for his life and into tacklers head first.
And I agree.. trading any draft picks for Kap seems counter-intuitive to what it seems like the front office is doing by getting young players and amassing draft picks.
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RGIII's injury affected his game. However, his injury has nothing to do w/inability to make pre and post-snap reads, his pocket presence, and his arrogance and selfishness that rubs teammates and coaches the wrong way.
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j/c... We would not sign him long term and he would not want to sign here long term. He might want to sign to showcase his wares and then 2 years from now get that Big time contract.
So he would be here as a Temp starter and should beat out McCown. Unless he is a complete moron which I don't think we would sign him if he was.
We still draft the guy we want whether its Wentz at #2 or Cook at #32. McCown would lead the position as a Group on how to be an NFL QB.
2017 the last year on that 2 year contract - if Wentz/Cook are ready - RG3 redeemed himself starting for us in 2016. We get a pretty good return if we choose to trade him rather than have the contract run out and get nothing.
Kaep I don't like that premise - RG3 could be a good asset to the team!
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I will pass on RG3. He's mentality fragile.. He would come into this culture of losing since 1999 And be unable to handle the task of even getting this Team back to 6 to 8 win team. The pressure would get to him. Plus AFC North defenses would just pound his smallish frame. He's not a QB that can turn a franchise around and the Browns Are a Herculean task. He needs to go a team that's a borderline playoff team With playmakers already in place and a offensive identity
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Hue Jackson was quoted as saying that the QB they choose has to be the face of the franchise.
If he meant that, then my guess is we pass on him.. dunno for sure.
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If we do sign a vet QB...
RG3 > Kaep for a myriad of reasons, IMO.
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j/c... We would not sign him long term and he would not want to sign here long term. He might want to sign to showcase his wares and then 2 years from now get that Big time contract.
jmho When is the last time a Browns QB signed for a big time contract elsewhere?  Cleveland would be the last place I would want to go for an audition.
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I don't think Griffin is going to get a big contract. More likely, imo, he'll get a one year "show-me" contract, and the chance to prove that he's still a big time talent. In that case, the Browns might be the perfect place (for him, not necessarily the Browns) because even if he still blows he can visit other teams next year, and when they ask what happened he can shrug his shoulders and say "Hey ... Browns.".
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When is the last time a Browns QB signed for a big time contract elsewhere? smile Brian Sipe with the New Jersey Generals?
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What is RGIII going to do here besides run for his life and make terrible decisions with the football while doing so here? If there's a remote chance for him, he needs to go somewhere where he has a blocking offensive line and a helping run game. Even that's not assuring he'll be able to "get it" and that opportunity is not here
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Quite frankly I don't see the fit for Griffin in Cleveland.
He may fir for Chip Kelly but I don't see it with Hue Jackson.
Griffin is not the type of quarterback to run the type of offense Hue has run. He is not a pocket passer who will deliver the ball to the right guy at the right time. He is movement passer that can throw to an open receiver. He does not anticipate open guys. He does not read the field post snap.
At the same time he does not represent what Jackson has made clear about being a leader on and off the field.
I just don't see it.
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It makes zero sense. Why else do you think they brought him in for a visit?
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Seriously - we're looking at RG3 and Kaep? Do they not realize we need a Quarterback??
We should just bring in Tebow at this point.
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Yeah, I gotta agree w/that one.
I don't like either qb, but getting RGIII as a free agent is better than trading for Kap.
Freaking Browns..... Yes, I agree. But RG3 doesn't fit our offense. It's really weird they brought him in. I'm hoping they don't sign him OR trade for Kap. Considering they are blowing the whole thing up neither move makes sense. However, if they must do one of these bad things, signing RGDiva is the least onerous action. As long as it's for a very small contract. If the money is similar then I think I'd rather have Kap. At least he has both legs and isn't as much of a headcase.
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Quite frankly I don't see the fit for Griffin in Cleveland.
He may fir for Chip Kelly but I don't see it with Hue Jackson.
Griffin is not the type of quarterback to run the type of offense Hue has run. He is not a pocket passer who will deliver the ball to the right guy at the right time. He is movement passer that can throw to an open receiver. He does not anticipate open guys. He does not read the field post snap.
At the same time he does not represent what Jackson has made clear about being a leader on and off the field.
I just don't see it.
Exactly. It's strange as hell they brought him in. RG3 would have to completely change how he plays. Ground up. He'd be on the end of the bench. Considering the staff we hired one would presume we are running the "numbers" "Air Coryell" offense. Or whtever it's being called this decade.  Power blocking/running downfield passing. How the hell does RG3 fit in that? For that matter how does Kap?
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In fairness, though, it does no harm to bring the guy in and talk to him.
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In fairness, though, it does no harm to bring the guy in and talk to him. If he doesn't fit anything you wish to run on O, it also makes zero sense.
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Bring Cribbs back. Wildcat every play is better than these two. Say no to RGTrey.
Does this indicate that they moved on from Kaep?
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Seriously - we're looking at RG3 and Kaep? Do they not realize we need a Quarterback??
We should just bring in Tebow at this point. Just not sure what the big deal is. I hope they speak to a ton of guys. Doesn't hurt anything and you never know what you might find out about other teams. So yeah, If Jackson thinks he can gain an ounce of knowledge from Tebow, sure, bring him in.
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what i like so far, is that they're taking their time looking for a QB and not rushing into one.
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Could be an attempt at a "smoke screen", analytics style.
Maybe the boys can get some teams thinking the Browns are not interested in a QB at #2 and that the Browns are willing to trade out of the #2 slot, if they show interest in RG or CK.
Then again, they might have some interest in either QB if they can get them cheap enough.
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Seriously - we're looking at RG3 and Kaep? Do they not realize we need a Quarterback??
We should just bring in Tebow at this point. Just not sure what the big deal is. I hope they speak to a ton of guys. Doesn't hurt anything and you never know what you might find out about other teams. So yeah, If Jackson thinks he can gain an ounce of knowledge from Tebow, sure, bring him in. Hmmm .. Pryor did sign his tender offer.. and played QB for Hue in Oakland and was on Cinci as a QB last year for Hue before being cut.
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In fairness, though, it does no harm to bring the guy in and talk to him. If he doesn't fit anything you wish to run on O, it also makes zero sense. One thing to keep in mind, bro............there are a lot of "experts" on here. Not sure if I would believe everything they say, especially when they say things like "he doesn't fit Hue's offense." That's BS. The one thing that RGIII does well is throw the deep ball. I don't like RGIII, but don't believe everything you read. I suspect that the guys who said that really, really want the Browns to draft Wentz and bringing in RGIII would make that questionable.
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Hue Jackson: Robert Griffin III a 'tremendous talent' By Marc Sessler Around the NFL Writer Published: March 20, 2016 at 07:36 p.m. Updated: March 20, 2016 at 07:53 p.m. BOCA RATON, Fla. -- If we know one thing about the Browns this offseason, the team is spreading a wide net in search of a savior under center. Cleveland is expected by many to select a passer with the No. 2 overall pick, but the franchise's hunt also extends to veteran options, with the Browns still a candidate to trade for San Francisco's Colin Kaepernick or even sign former Redskins signal-caller Robert Griffin III. New coach Hue Jackson has opinions on all these players, calling Griffin, who visited the Browns on Friday and Saturday, a "very talented" performer. "It was a great meeting. I think he's obviously a tremendous talent and a great young man," Jackson told NFL Media's Steve Wyche. "He had a lot of success early in Washington and then things just didn't work out. Those things happen in the National Football League. But at the same time we are going through our process. We are going to be very diligent in what we are doing -- trying to make sure that we put the right quarterbacks on our football team and in that quarterback room. And that's one of my biggest responsibilities and also one of our organization's biggest responsibilities." On the stalled talks for Kaepernick, Jackson told Wyche: "I can't comment on players on other teams. But it is where it is and eventually I think all those things will show itself." The Browns will also have their choice of either Cal's Jared Goff or North Dakota State's Carson Wentz when they go on the clock next month at No. 2. Jackson has committed to personally attending the pro day of all the top arms in this year's draft, but emphasized again on Sunday that "we may draft a quarterback and we may not." If they do pick a rookie passer, the Browns might be wise to red-shirt him until this team-building process led by executive VP of football operations Sashi Brown enters its next stage. Jackson, though, wants nothing to do with calling this latest chapter in Cleveland a rebuilding effort. He emphasized to Wyche that it's closer to a Browns "reboot," which is fair because, from another angle, there was nothing to rebuild. "We wanted to keep every last one of the players that left if we could. But there's also a price in doing that," Jackson said. "They have a right to exercise their option to go. So it's not like we did not want them back. I mean they have to want to be back as well. And it just didn't work out. So at the end of the day, I know it looks to a lot of people like it's a rebuild. You can call it a reboot. You can call it whatever you'd like. But I do know this much, that we are doing what we know we need to do in order to have a sustainable football team for years to come." http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...ign=Twitter_atn
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"We wanted to keep every last one of the players that left if we could. But there's also a price in doing that," Jackson said. "They have a right to exercise their option to go. So it's not like we did not want them back. I mean they have to want to be back as well. And it just didn't work out. So at the end of the day, I know it looks to a lot of people like it's a rebuild. You can call it a reboot. You can call it whatever you'd like. But I do know this much, that we are doing what we know we need to do in order to have a sustainable football team for years to come." Another excuse that posters are using is totally blown up. Not that it will stop them. LOL
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We should be thoroughly investigating every available QB option. RGIII is one of those options. I have no problem with bringing him in for a visit or signing him to a cheap contract.
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In fairness, though, it does no harm to bring the guy in and talk to him. If he doesn't fit anything you wish to run on O, it also makes zero sense. One of Hue Jackson's greatest strengths is adapting his offense to the strengths of his players. I don't know how you can say that RG3 "doesn't fit".
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There is a serious love-fest in this front office with the running QB. I wouldn't be shocked if we took Lynch at #2.
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There is a serious love-fest in this front office with the running QB. I wouldn't be shocked if we took Lynch at #2.
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In fairness, though, it does no harm to bring the guy in and talk to him. If he doesn't fit anything you wish to run on O, it also makes zero sense. One thing to keep in mind, bro............there are a lot of "experts" on here. Not sure if I would believe everything they say, especially when they say things like "he doesn't fit Hue's offense." That's BS. The one thing that RGIII does well is throw the deep ball. I don't like RGIII, but don't believe everything you read. I suspect that the guys who said that really, really want the Browns to draft Wentz and bringing in RGIII would make that questionable. He's also extremely accurate. Lots of QB's struggle with just that one aspect.
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