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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog Originally Posted By: kingodawg Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog I apologize. I did not realize that a game against the Heat in March is a bigger game than all playoff games. What is you obsession with TT? I like him and all, but you are over the top. He is a good role player, thats it.
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Obsession?
The guy said that TT did not play good in big games. I disagreed. We can examine the numbers if you like of how TT played in playoff games. Those are big games.
Most people who have played and/or coached the game, know that you need role players who do all the dirty work while the stars get all the credit. There is one basketball and five guys on the court. Tough, disciplined, selfless players are invaluable on teams that have a several "stars."
Thanks for that moment of education.
I would have never known that without you You asked me a question. I answered. You proceeded [as always] to talk down towards me. Look, I get that you don't like me. You don't have to keep reiterating it. I get it. Other board members get it. You can drop it, now. It's been established that "KING" does not like the lowly Vers. candy...........I am not saying that TT is a great offensive player. I just think you need a guy or guys like that, especially when you have guys who really like to shoot, such as: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, and JR.
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I just think you need a guy or guys like that, especially when you have guys who really like to shoot, such as: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, and JR. This is true. TT is a perfect fit for the Cavs. He is the least of the Cavs worries.
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Kyrie is just pissing me off lately with his play.
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I missed the Miami game.
Too much dribbling?
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It's funny there's still people saying "don't panic, they'll step it up when they need to", well, don't you think other teams are keeping a lil in their tanks too to let go in the playoffs and etc?
I had to turn the Heat game off at halftime. I couldn't stand watching our heartless Cavs losing yet another game we should've won, and not only losing - but they dismantled us.
At this point, with this team and if youre hoping we'll advance this post season - if you're not panicking or concerned, you must not be paying attention to our team. JMO, as always.
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I missed the Miami game.
Too much dribbling? the entire team not named lebron decided not to show up. they blocked us left and right. and yes, miami's defense had a field day with kyrie. i can't remember how many shots he had block trying to drive to the paint. they ate his ass alive.
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well because you shouldn't panic.
the same "omg the sky is falling" was going on in these threads all throughout the regular season.
and then what happened in the playoffs? sweeeeeeeeep.
i'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned. but this idea that somebody like toronto is gonna beat us...come on.
remember all the "chicago is gonna blow us out"? yea..what happened with that.
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Toronto had an epic fail in the playoffs last year. They do play good defense and good PGs and SGs give the Cavs fits. The Raptors have two of the best in Lowry and DeRozen.
The Cavs should win, but that team might give them trouble.
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog Originally Posted By: kingodawg Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog I apologize. I did not realize that a game against the Heat in March is a bigger game than all playoff games. What is you obsession with TT? I like him and all, but you are over the top. He is a good role player, thats it.
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Obsession?
The guy said that TT did not play good in big games. I disagreed. We can examine the numbers if you like of how TT played in playoff games. Those are big games.
Most people who have played and/or coached the game, know that you need role players who do all the dirty work while the stars get all the credit. There is one basketball and five guys on the court. Tough, disciplined, selfless players are invaluable on teams that have a several "stars."
Thanks for that moment of education.
I would have never known that without you You asked me a question. I answered. You proceeded [as always] to talk down towards me. Look, I get that you don't like me. You don't have to keep reiterating it. I get it. Other board members get it. You can drop it, now. It's been established that "KING" does not like the lowly Vers. candy...........I am not saying that TT is a great offensive player. I just think you need a guy or guys like that, especially when you have guys who really like to shoot, such as: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, and JR. TT is a role player, that is established, but he's being payed like an all star contributor. I think everyone expected he take another step forward..he hasn't, he's taken a step back. Not even a consideration on offense and marginal at best on defense. He's shooting horrible FT and a big reason our rim protection sucks, he doesn't have the size to play the 5, but I give all of our bigs a pass on that because our guards are the worst in the league on defense. But my point with TT is he feasts on lesser opponents and really only seems to go off when the rest of the team does, which makes sense because when they are concentrating on stopping the weapons we have , TT can do his thing. I've said before, I like TT, there is a def role for him. But he's being paid like a guy that can pick up the team when everyone else can't. He's not that guy. If he could just develop a 15 footer he'd be exceptional as teams couldn't just pack in around him and you could play him in any set because he could space the area from the rim out to FT line in all directions giving more driving lanes. Bottom line is we've regressed under Lue to the point that noone knows what they are supposed to do game to game, because Lue changes it game to game..this is the time of year everything should be set and you're just figuring out how deep your rotation is going to be. right now we can't even decide on a starting 5
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well because you shouldn't panic.
the same "omg the sky is falling" was going on in these threads all throughout the regular season.
and then what happened in the playoffs? sweeeeeeeeep.
i'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned. but this idea that somebody like toronto is gonna beat us...come on.
remember all the "chicago is gonna blow us out"? yea..what happened with that. The team I watch, I'm not sure we could beat Toronto. There's still high level of idiotic turnovers, that alone will get our throats slit in the post season. The fact that you can bank on them occurring game after game, idk, I'm not feeling it with this team. Not cleaning up the little things which is where they need to at least start. I hope my Negative Nancy side is getting the best of me, I really do.
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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog Originally Posted By: kingodawg Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog I apologize. I did not realize that a game against the Heat in March is a bigger game than all playoff games. What is you obsession with TT? I like him and all, but you are over the top. He is a good role player, thats it.
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Obsession?
The guy said that TT did not play good in big games. I disagreed. We can examine the numbers if you like of how TT played in playoff games. Those are big games.
Most people who have played and/or coached the game, know that you need role players who do all the dirty work while the stars get all the credit. There is one basketball and five guys on the court. Tough, disciplined, selfless players are invaluable on teams that have a several "stars."
Thanks for that moment of education.
I would have never known that without you You asked me a question. I answered. You proceeded [as always] to talk down towards me. Look, I get that you don't like me. You don't have to keep reiterating it. I get it. Other board members get it. You can drop it, now. It's been established that "KING" does not like the lowly Vers. candy...........I am not saying that TT is a great offensive player. I just think you need a guy or guys like that, especially when you have guys who really like to shoot, such as: LeBron, Kyrie, Love, and JR. Yet even when I dont say anything to you, you talk trash to me because I made a sarcastic post that had zero to do with you and your fragile ego.
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well because you shouldn't panic.
the same "omg the sky is falling" was going on in these threads all throughout the regular season.
and then what happened in the playoffs? sweeeeeeeeep.
i'm not saying we shouldn't be concerned. but this idea that somebody like toronto is gonna beat us...come on.
remember all the "chicago is gonna blow us out"? yea..what happened with that. Last years team was alot better. we rolled after ASB, now we're getting smashed by teams that have 8 people injured including thier entire starting lineup. The teams that made playoffs last year like toronto are better than they were last year. If i was to guess, toronto probably ends up with the one seed. We could see miami again and that could get ugly as they matchup against us. And the fact we haven't beat them in their building since 2010 could make for an interesting matchup.
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I went into most games just believing we were going shred up the opposition last year. I was riding the high confidence wave before opening tip off. This year, I can tell you that mindset is long gone.
It's so strange to believe we were a better team last year with all the injuries than we are this year, riding the full depth of our players and etc with the exception of Mo Williams. And guys, I doubt Mo being in the lineup pull us outta this funk we're in.
Food for thought.
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maybe so, but i think mo and delly on the floor together provides better ball movement than kyrie and delly on the floor together.
kyrie is handling the ball like he's trying to prove a point, instead of trying to run the offense.
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maybe so, but i think mo and delly on the floor together provides better ball movement than kyrie and delly on the floor together.
kyrie is handling the ball like he's trying to prove a point, instead of trying to run the offense. This i agree with, mo being hurt has really screwed things up...he's a guy that will willingly run the offense and has the ability to drive and kick unlike delly but can also get his own shot, unlike delly. I would really like to have Mo for the playoffs. Delly would have an easier time getting a open look with Mo as well.. As long as Delly can catch and shoot he's ok, anything other than that and its a trainwreck
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What Mo will help on the offensive side, he'll hurt us on the defensive side, which is definitely a very weak aspect of our team.
I agree though, Mo can setup and execute the offense while Irving struggles heavily with that, or getting his teammates involved or really anything in terms of running the offense lol.
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What Mo will help on the offensive side, he'll hurt us on the defensive side, which is definitely a very weak aspect of our team.
I agree though, Mo can setup and execute the offense while Irving struggles heavily with that, or getting his teammates involved or really anything in terms of running the offense lol. in all honesty, mo can't be any worse on defense than what we have..so may as well try to score as many point as possible
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So, what happened last night?
More LeBron, less Kyrie? Better chemistry w/out Love? I'm curious.
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The spurs lost to the bobcats last night!!!
oh no, they aren't ready for a title run!! they are gonna get kicked out in the first round!!!
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more like we just had better talent. talent won. wasn't anything special last night.
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I don't know the specifics of the story, but heard this morning that Lebron "unfollowed" the Cavs on Twitter/Instagram.
LOL its constant drama
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yea i heard that too. i think lebron does these kinda things just to screw with people. Trolling 101.
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So, what happened last night?
More LeBron, less Kyrie? Better chemistry w/out Love? I'm curious. Lebron played like a monster.
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The spurs lost to the bobcats last night!!!
oh no, they aren't ready for a title run!! they are gonna get kicked out in the first round!!! They overpaid Aldridge, Danny Green isn't an NBA player, and they need to play Andre Miller at PG instead of the guys they do play. Pops should also get fired in the off-season.
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I don't know the specifics of the story, but heard this morning that Lebron "unfollowed" the Cavs on Twitter/Instagram.
LOL its constant drama not only did he unfollow the cavs, he unfollowed allie clifton, austin carr, chris broussard.. all media types...total of 14 accounts in all
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Can we test Lebron for Multiple Personality Disorder? Would be nice if we can rid him of that one personality that is a passive aggressive whiner, that wants to ball-hog, freeze out teammates, and dribble for 20 seconds before launching a 20-foot fade-away. Then we can be left with the guy that's the congenial, proud Ohioan that's the second coming of Magic Johnson, charges the lane with no regard for human life and is generally unstoppable.
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Can we test Lebron for Multiple Personality Disorder? Would be nice if we can rid him of that one personality that is a passive aggressive whiner, that wants to ball-hog, freeze out teammates, and dribble for 20 seconds before launching a 20-foot fade-away. Then we can be left with the guy that's the congenial, proud Ohioan that's the second coming of Magic Johnson, charges the lane with no regard for human life and is generally unstoppable. I think we're seeing why noone wants to come play with him..Joe Johnson had the perfect opportunity to come here and decided not to..i have to believe the drama had alot to do with it. It sucks because lebron can be so dominant when his mind is right, like last night. We had 38 assists, and all time record. When you play like that you give yourself a chance against anyone. Lebron pouts and berates teammates when things don't go well instead of sucking it up and doing what he can to get the team together...he can be a very divisive person at times.
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j/c
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LOL its constant drama not only did he unfollow the cavs, he unfollowed allie clifton, austin carr, chris broussard.. all media types...total of 14 accounts in all Its much ado about nothing. He has already explained he is cutting out distractions and focusing in on the playoffs
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The spurs lost to the bobcats last night!!!
oh no, they aren't ready for a title run!! they are gonna get kicked out in the first round!!! They overpaid Aldridge, Danny Green isn't an NBA player, and they need to play Andre Miller at PG instead of the guys they do play. Pops should also get fired in the off-season.  Man, I read the first few and I thought you were serious. LOL.......that was pretty funny.
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Draymond Screen strikes again https://streamable.com/r4yrIf this is going to be called consistently, fine. On your next offensive possession you have somebody knock Curry into the 2nd row on a screen. It's always pissed me off what the league lets smaller guys get away with.
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Reminds me when Harden was being guarded by LeBron, tried to hook LeBrons arm, and pull him into himself for a foul call..
And they both just stood there, arms hooked, staring at the ref.. Waiting for him to call SOMETHING..
Am I the only one that pronounces hyperbole "Hyper-bowl" instead of "hy-per-bo-le"?
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Toronto with a bad loss gives us more room. They're a team I can see fizzling out. They're this years Hawks, Bulls, Pacers, etc.
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It sure is quiet in this thread when the Cavs win
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It sure is quiet in this thread when the Cavs win It really is, and that's a shame. Another fun game to watch, with Lebron coming unglued. He sure looks like he's having fun out there.
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So, tell us your thoughts on the game. That might be better than ridiculing people, Oh Mighty King.
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Why talk about this now? Sports LeBron James: I'll take pay cut to play with Carmelo, D-Wade and Chris PaulNBC Sports,NBC on Yahoo Sports 15 hours ago Comments Sign in to like Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email LeBron James has never shied from the fact that his best friends in the NBA don’t play for the Cavaliers: Carmelo Anthony, Dwyane Wade and Chris Paul. But what if they were teammates? LeBron, via Howard Beck of Bleacher Report: “I really hope that, before our career is over, we can all play together,” James said. “At least one, maybe one or two seasons—me, Melo, D-Wade, CP—we can get a year in. I would actually take a pay cut to do that.” “It would be pretty cool,” James said. “I’ve definitely had thoughts about it.” The big question: Where would it happen? Wade calls himself a “HeatLifer.” Melo has been outspoken about his loyalty to New York. Paul can become a free agent in 2017. LeBron can become a free agent this summer and is sending strange signals about his devotion to the Cavaliers. LeBron probably ruined the most realistic opportunity for the four to play together when he left Miami in 2014. That summer, the Heat were trying to add Melo and already held LeBron’s and Wade’s Bird Rights. With the salary cap skyrocketing, perhaps they could’ve found a way to fit Paul in 2017. Even that would’ve been a longshot, though. Star players like the idea of playing with their friends. It’s much harder to get everyone on board in reality. Mostly, I view LeBron’s statement as an unrealistic fantasy. But the fact that LeBron went on record with his willingness to take a pay cut shows his commitment to the idea. Remember, in 2014, he put out word that he would accept no less than a max contract. It’d be hard for LeBron to leave Cleveland after he framed his return around coming home. The backlash would be immense. But staying with the Cavs clearly isn’t his only concern (just as no player picks a team for a single reason). He also wants to play with Melo, Wade and Paul. Any team that wants to sign LeBron – Cavaliers included – should consider a plan than unites the four. Bringing it to fruition might be improbably, but as we’ve seen, LeBron is willing to send passive-aggressive signals. https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/nbc-y...430152-nba.html[size:11pt][/size]
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whats there to talk about?
it's nothing more than when we were kids trying to pick our homeboys in a pick up basketball game.
who doesn't wish they can all ball with their homeys?
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