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Wow!

He's had two major surgeries on the same knee. One in college and one in the pros. I think trying to get him to be a pocket passer would be the wisest course of action.

I think that'd be the standard NFL ("old school") thinking. I'm not sure we're going by that anymore. Honestly, I'm not sure Griffin will ever be that guy. I think Hue might try to recapture that lightning in a bottle from RG3's rookie year. Hue gets pretty creative. We'll see how it goes.

I'm not calling you out. Well, okay, maybe, kind of. lol

But it wasn't very long ago you were saying RG3 was a coach killer, a malcontent, not a team player with a terrible attitude. You even strongly stated that the note he left in the locker room proved he hadn't changed.

Yet now you support signing him?

I understand you don't want a QB selected at #2, but WOW, talk about a 180 degree turn!

Post what you want, it's the over and over again thing that's more annoying than a trial lawyer commercial.

Did you copy and paste it from the other thread just in case you thought people might be avoiding that thread?

We can make a Mad Lib for you.

Brown's front office sucks because _____, _____, and _____.
Sashi Brown's stupid because _____, _____, _____, and _____.
Haslam has secret plan to inflict pain on us because _____, _____, and_____.

Did I miss anything?

No, you covered ridicule pretty well. lol

IMO... regardless of how many coaches try to implement the pistol offense here in the NFL with linebackers that can travel sideline to sideline in a blink of an eye, Hell... with defensive LINEMEN that can travel sideline to sideline - I just don't think the pistol offense is going to last or catch on. It's a QB killer. It's a college scheme.

You got to be able to drop back in the pocket and I just cannot possibly see that changing.

I think you are misinformed. We'll see how it goes.

BOSA @ #2!

It's a violent sport. Players get hurt dropping back, too. Ask Peyton Manning. Things change. Look at Cam. Look at the way the game has changed from the past already.

I'd say I'm uninformed rather than misinformed. I'm just making guesses based on personal observations on this one.

look at Romo.

dude gets killed all the time trying to stand in the pocket.

I have never liked RGIII. I still don't.

I just don't think it was a bad move. It didn't cost us a draft pick. He once was highly thought of. He did have some success in the league.

I just don't see a lot of risk w/this move and they might catch lightning in a bottle. The odds are slim, but it's worth a shot.

Hey, I'm giving the FO some credit. How cool is that.

You, on the other hand, are a Negative Nancy. You just hate the front office. I choose to live my life in a positive manner and see the good in things. You're just a hater!!! Go root for the Squeelers, you agenda-driven thang, you!!!

I'm so numb that I just don't care.

Maybe he will turn out to be the guy that finally turns it around.

I'm not holding my breath. I did that with the other 19 starting QB's

You must have some crazy lung capacity by now.

Made me a little lightheaded. If I had ever done any drugs in my life, I'd be worried that I was on a flashback acid trip.

I'm kinda in the same boat as Verse on this.

I'm not a RG3 fan but he was cheap and didn't cost us a pick.

I doubt he's going to turn things around here.

Those that think he's a better option than McCown are just nuts in my opinion.

He is however a better backup than Shaw or Davis.

I don't want us to get rid of Josh, but if we get a decent offer of a pick for him, I'm okay with it.

Cam is 6'5'', some 245+ lbs.

RGIII gives up 20lbs easily to that frame. It's like when you watch people bounce off Ben Rothlessburger. You don't see people bounce off RGIII, you see them destroy him. Some of his highlight films, boy the hits he takes makes me sore lol!

The aspect of a running QB is definitely catching on, I agree 100% bro, but the drop back and pass is still going to be the primary and most effective means "I think". It'll be an interesting thing to continue to monitor over the years.

Good signing..... Cheap and low risk. Hope he can get his career back on track.

headline from FTW!/NFL

"Signing Robert Griffin III is a no-lose situation for the Cleveland Browns."

**sigh**

******breaking*****

RG3 fratcures wrist while signing contract

It is my opinion that had we selected Griffin in 2012, we would of contended for a playoff.

Griffin as a passer was leaps ahead of Weeden, as are most.

Our defense under Jouron that year was solid.

And with Pat Shurmurs boring offense, there would of been little chance of Griffin getting hurt on a designed run..

If we had selected Griffin in 2012, his career would already be over.

It will be amazing if he ever starts for an extended number of games again.

"Could the curse be over?" - rockyhilldawg, 1980.

Wrong answer SWISH. RG3 is a stopgap starter for our new QB at #2 Carson Wentz. JMO!

you mean #3, yes?

according to some on the board, McCown must start.

RG3 will replace him when he gets injured.

then he'll get injured.

that way, for our annual Browns christmas tradition, the 3rd QB(wentz) will start at the end of the season.

by swish above:

"...for our annual Browns christmas tradition, the 3rd QB(wentz) will start at the end of the season."

I love Christmas. Toys, games, food, the end of our football season.

We are short a couple of lineman. The Qb count might go up to 4 or 5 this year.

I hope we can get something for McCown. He's not average. He just has 5 seconds to throw the ball. There's a difference.

But we've already got our bridge QB (McCown); why change? Our FO must believe that RGIII can/will become our "franchise" QB. This scenario is "iffy" IMO. I'm really on the fence with this signing as we could have kept McCown, drafted Goff/Wentz at #2. If RGIII fails and we pass on a QB at #2, then we have blown our (probably) best chance to resolve this position...

I'd like to see Ramsey or Buckner at #2.

But, will also be interesting to see how Erving does with a proper O-Line coach and playing in one position. If there are still concerns with Erving than Ryan Kelly or maybe Stanley need to be seriously considered (assuming Titans take Tunsil).

If we draft a non-qb at 2 I'd like to take Jack

You don't sign a pre-conceived franchise QB to a 2 year contract. If you look at our record of re-signing our FA's, he's a rental.

We let our talented free agents leave and then sign a QB that's a bust. No wonder we never get better.

we didn't "let" anybody walk.

Hue Jackson fell in love with Robert Griffin III at private workout

By Jeff Darlington NFL Media reporter

In a recent meeting that included a number of team executives, Cleveland Browns coach Hue Jackson explained with wide eyes to those in attendance, including owner Jimmy Haslam and his wife, what he saw during a private workout from Robert Griffin III last week.

Jackson explained how, at one point when Griffin rolled out in a full sprint to throw a pass, "it felt like the Earth moved beneath my feet," according to team sources. He told them how Griffin's accuracy in passing drills was "freakish." It was surreal and special. It was everything you remember from 2012 -- and everything you have forgotten since.

And while the Browns owner by no means calls the shots on roster decisions in Cleveland (executive vice president Sashi Brown has that power), it is widely understood within the organization that Jackson understands quarterbacks as well as anyone. So Haslam looked toward the execs and spoke three definitive words:

"Go get him," Haslam told the group, setting off a series of negotiations that would lead to Griffin signing a two-year, $15 million with the Browns on Thursday.

Meanwhile, while Jackson was left in awe, Griffin was in the middle of his own soul-searching experience. The former No. 2 overall pick and Heisman Trophy winner suddenly had found himself being used as a leverage chip around the NFL, knowingly visiting the New York Jets earlier this month as a way to help them negotiate with the quarterback they truly want, Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Griffin was OK with this. He understood this process -- that any free-agent visit would be helpful to his situation. He also believes he knows, after a humbling year that included repetitions as a scout-team safety, the importance of appreciating the difficult nature of the NFL, according to sources close to him.

But then, he visited Cleveland.

He visited, not knowing what would become of it, still being told by multiple advisors that San Francisco would be the best fit should Colin Kaepernick get traded. Something happened on that visit that changed the whole thing.

Jackson and Griffin saw the potential.

For Griffin, he saw a tough-loving coach who asked no easy questions. Jackson saw an honest and humbled human; a football player who made it clear that his days of heavy social-media interaction were behind him; a man who couldn't stop saying those ever-important words: "It is all about football for me."

Yes, there is no doubt, it is easy to speak these words, as Griffin did -- just like it was easy for Johnny Manziel to do the same during his pre-draft visits with the same team under a different coach. And so, it is reasonable and expected for Browns fans to remain skeptical, just as it is no surprise that the sports world will roll its collective eyes.

And that's just fine. For Griffin and Jackson, both men realize an important truth about their own personal situations and the situation of the city they now share: Every story of redemption starts with doubt and criticism.

So here's what you need to know, other than the fact that Jackson and Griffin immediately had an impressive vibe: They both recognize this is going to take hard work and nothing is guaranteed. But Jackson absolutely sees a player who he plans to prepare for a Week 1 start, while Griffin aims to approach this situation as a competition, regardless of who it is against, according to sources close to both.

In the coming weeks, Griffin will begin workouts with Tom House, the quarterback guru who has a strong relationship with Jackson. House has worked with quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Carson Palmer, and he understands Jackson's system, which will allow Griffin to get started on private work despite rules that will largely limit the interaction between Jackson and Griffin for the coming months.

Yes, Griffin fully understands the Browns could still select a quarterback with the No. 2 overall pick in next month's draft. Heck, on Thursday, when the Browns announced they'd signed Griffin, Jackson was literally watching Carson Wentz's pro-day workout.

The Browns also know how Jackson feels about Griffin, and they fully recognize Jackson sees a player who he expects to become the starter for this team in 2016. Is he a bridge to a younger player? You could assume that. But Jackson views this differently, according to a source close to the coach. He has more optimism than that. But no need for those details now. Time will tell how this plays out.

For now, on this day, this is a story of two men who believe in one another, despite their limited interaction. It is a story of two men who understand things could change with their relationship and their situation, as both have very publicly learned over the last few years. Reality has been harsh to both. They aren't merely dreamers anymore.

Yes, there is no doubt, it is easy to speak these words, as Griffin did -- just like it was easy for Johnny Manziel to do the same during his pre-draft visits with the same team under a different coach. And so, it is reasonable and expected for Browns fans to remain skeptical, just as it is no surprise that the sports world will roll its collective eyes.

And that's just fine. For Griffin and Jackson, both men realize an important truth about their own personal situations and the situation of the city they now share: Every story of redemption starts with doubt and criticism.

So here's what you need to know, other than the fact that Jackson and Griffin immediately had an impressive vibe: They both recognize this is going to take hard work and nothing is guaranteed. But Jackson absolutely sees a player who he plans to prepare for a Week 1 start, while Griffin aims to approach this situation as a competition, regardless of who it is against, according to sources close to both.

In the coming weeks, Griffin will begin workouts with Tom House, the quarterback guru who has a strong relationship with Jackson. House has worked with quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Carson Palmer, and he understands Jackson's system, which will allow Griffin to get started on private work despite rules that will largely limit the interaction between Jackson and Griffin for the coming months.

Yes, Griffin fully understands the Browns could still select a quarterback with the No. 2 overall pick in next month's draft. Heck, on Thursday, when the Browns announced they'd signed Griffin, Jackson was literally watching Carson Wentz's pro-day workout.

The Browns also know how Jackson feels about Griffin, and they fully recognize Jackson sees a player who he expects to become the starter for this team in 2016. Is he a bridge to a younger player? You could assume that. But Jackson views this differently, according to a source close to the coach. He has more optimism than that. But no need for those details now. Time will tell how this plays out.

For now, on this day, this is a story of two men who believe in one another, despite their limited interaction. It is a story of two men who understand things could change with their relationship and their situation, as both have very publicly learned over the last few years. Reality has been harsh to both. They aren't merely dreamers anymore.

I'm not mad at this move, but I was just hoping we would draft a QB, and let him have the job immediately. Just go along the same path that the Raiders and Jags did with Carr and Bortles...

You can still do that obviously, but I think the temptation to put RG3 in when a rookie scuffles will be tempting.

With that said, I'm behind Griffin 100% and hope bounces back. I think he's in a good place with Hue Jackson.

So yeah, not exactly what I wanted as a fan, but definitely not upset about it. Can't wait to see what Coach can do with him (and hopefully a few weapons added)

I have to give the FO kudos on this. If he lights it up, we offer a larger contract next off-season. If not, we've didn't spend too much for him.

Now, the harder part will be to get the other pieces he needs to be successful.

There's also a chance that all those "unnamed sources" are wrong and we aren't "expected" to take a QB at #2.