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It's a move that will keep the other teams guessing.

I'm not a huge fan of going into the year with RG3 and McCown as your 1 and 2, but the RG3 move makes it a little easier for the Browns to pick a QB outside of the first round if they aren't comfortable with anyone at 2.

I'll say the idea of drafting a guy at 2 and just rolling with him (like Oakland and Jaxs) seemed interesting.

People can talk about sitting a QB "until they're ready" but all we've seen is that cause problems.

Just let the kid play.

On the other hand, I don't see signing Griffin unless you PLAN on him being the starter, mostly cause I doubt he would of signed here..

Draft impact players. If Griffin is average, then we can win some games.

this says a lot right here:

In the coming weeks, Griffin will begin workouts with Tom House, the quarterback guru who has a strong relationship with Jackson. House has worked with quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Carson Palmer, and he understands Jackson's system, which will allow Griffin to get started on private work despite rules that will largely limit the interaction between Jackson and Griffin for the coming months.

Understood, Pit'. I'm expecting though, this is only a look-see and they're hoping for a "real" contract a year or two from now...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...2041-sf23102041
McCown on block

It seems to me that one circus left town when Manziel was released, and now another has arrived. I'm tired of the drama. To quote Casey Stengel when he managed the expansion '62 Mets: "Can anybody here play this game"?

Too many people want to lean on Aaron Rodgers sitting for 3 years as if THAT'S the reason why he's a top tier QB right now. Just my opinion, but I think he's good, because he's good. I don't think there is that much a QB can learn just sitting around. We all know Favre wasn't lifting a finger to help Rodgers either, he made that pretty clear when he was there... I think anything more than a year sitting is just fooling yourself. Development comes on the field.

I just love the way Carr took his lumps in year one and Oakland didn't flinch at changing him out despite the struggles of the team. They were so much better as a team in 2015 and you can see where this team can go if they keep drafting well...

I'm totally ok with drafting a guy, even at 2, and letting RG3 go into training camp as the starter. You'll probably have a really good idea on where you want to go at the end of the year, either extending Griffin or going with your now second year QB you drafted...

Also, did anyone see Ian Rappaport's tweet about the deal? He gave out the details and listed the guaranteed cash (6.75m) and then commented that it was a large investment. In what world is paying a FA quarterback less than 7m guaranteed a large investment? Sometimes I think these media people just have it out for the Browns.

You can have any opinion that you want about RG3's game, but he's not a circus. The media will make it one, but that's not the fault of the Browns.

Guy got benched last year and didn't say a word about it. Handled himself well.

This is not Manziel, and it's not even close.

Take it for what its worth, but I heard Tony Grossi on ESPN-Cleveland say that he didn't think Griffin would be on the Browns' roster at the start of the 2017 NFL calendar year. If that's true, its probably Goff with #2, IMO.

LOL...........here we go again!

You probably should do a bit of research before you chastise another poster.

How is that chastising?

Perhaps not the right word..........but, there was plenty of drama over the years in Washington. Seriously, research it. You'll see what I am talking about.

I get that he's a lightning rod for media attention, but I don't recall him ever speaking out of line.

I mean seriously, they had him playing safety on the scout team and I don't even think he said a whole lot about it, even though he had every right to call his coach a complete moron.

Agree w all of this. Cut McCown to keep Shaw? What is the love fest with that guy? Or Davis?

Getting RG3 as a FA is Googleplex % better move than trading picks for Kap. And I didn't want RG3, but if we had to make one of those moves then I am glad we made the one we did.

If the media makes it one, it IS one. Griffin isn't like Manziel; Griffin actually has some ability. BUT, he does have the reputation of being a prima donna. I heard that there were Redskins linemen stepping over him when he was hurt on the ground after he threw them under the bus, making some kind of "Leon can't do it all by himself." statement. I'm a little salty because it makes no sense to me that we allowed our O-Line get decimated in free agency and then signed a QB that absolutely requires a solid O-Line. It looks to me like they're just winging it.

We have an unhealthy obsession over guys who who don't completely meltdown when they start that annual 3rd string quarterback game at the end of the year.

Anyone who watched Connor Shaw against the Ravens realized that guy can't get the ball down the field. He hung in there, and give him credit, but he doesn't have an arm.

This is what happens when you fall on your face at the position for 15 years. It's like being drunk at the bar at 2am. Everything looks good.

RG3 had a tude and a lot of his teammates didn't like him, but I wouldn't say he's the circus that was Manziel.

He had a owner that coddled him and he won't have that here.

I've read somewhere where guys in his inner circle say he has changed all that RGme stuff.

He's got a whole lot of stuff to fix in his game before week 1 if they are planning on him being the guy.

The circus will be the fans more than RG3.

Just research it, man. I don't feel like arguing about it. You are obviously not taking my word for it. Research it and you will know for sure. What's so bad about that?

It might be a circus for you, but the team could care less. They may have to answer a few more stupid MKC-esque questions, but they're going to do what they're going to do.

Sounds like you need to research too, since you haven't really added anything about the situation last year for him?

You don't feel like arguing it? Bro, you're not adding anything about it, then telling me to go research.

Come on now.

Same thing I thought.

Welcome aboard Griff! Here's your jersey #2.

I don't know about the fit, but I can see us dealing McCown at this point. I am just not sure if we want another pick. I think I would rather it be a player for player deal.

I've heard the a lot of his teammates didn't like him line in the media, but I've never heard a teammate actually say they didn't like him. Cousins was complimentary, Knighton was complimentary, Gruden was even complimentary and this was after they cut him, so they weren't trying to leverage a trade. I've heard (former 'Skins TE) Cooley say that unnamed players didn't like him, but this is after he crossed over into sports talk radio (so I take it with a grain of salt.)

I agree that he bought into his own hype, but the majority of his exposure was as much team/media driven as it was him. A team did trade 3 first round picks for him, and he was the rookie of the year. I think it would be hard for anyone to not be effected by the situation he was in. Then he got hurt. When you're hurt you're basically not a part of the team (I remember Mack saying something to that effect while he was recovering or an article about Mack saying something along those lines) Players shun you like they think an injury is contagious (at least it can seem that way to the injured player) Then Cousins played mediocre for a bit and RG3 replaced him, but then Robert caught the injury bug again. Supposedly, he was working hard and not complaining while running the scout team. Then Cousins put the streak together and played well. RG3 was expendable. He did leave the weird sign on his locker, but he kind of has a weird sense of humor. I think that was overblown.


On the coddling owner angle, the thought just gave me chills. Are you sure our owner won't coddle him?

As long as Dee doesn't cuddle him...

I thought he was shot and had an attitude issue. But if Hue loved him THAT much at the workout, then I'm on board. I know I am not always consistent, but hell, I am a fan of a team which I have no control over. Hope springs eternal!
He has a great arm. He is very smart and can be very charismatic. He's been humbled and seems ready to work. He is still young.
If Hue likes him this much, though, I would NOT use that high pick on a QB. Fill some holes, maybe trade down and build around this guy. I still remember when everyone loved him. It was not that long ago.

His offensive line hated him because he threw them under the bus.

They would literally step over him rather than help him up off the ground.

That's a reasonable assumption, I'll admit. Hopefully, he goes back to rookie year form. I didn't hear the noise then. Winning fixes a lot, and losing magnifies the negatives. Bleh, we'll see how this goes.

Barnwell on RGIII and us:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/150587...heir-future-nfl

At least he's listening to our coaches this time instead of homeless people.

Just our luck.

http://dailysnark.com/report-rgiii-tears-acl-walking-browns-facility-first-time/

jc...

I think ever since landing Hue Jackson, it's all been downhill from there. I think this signing adds to that pile. For starters, RG3 isn't any good. Apparently, what's more important though, is he's a great conversationalist and Hue enjoyed their conversations. He's also a prima donna. He wasn't well liked by his teammates. His presence has a chance to be a distraction.

If the Browns are still planning on drafting a QB, this is the worst possible move ever. Whoever is drafted has to start right away. Sitting is about as dumb as it gets. QB competitions are about as dumb as it gets. Putting fans in a position to choose sides is about as dumb as it gets. If they don't draft a QB, and RG3 is the starter, that's even worse.

Another boneheaded move by a FO that appears to be in way over their heads. I said several days ago just when you think it can't get any worse, the Browns redefine how bad it can really get.

Who cares what the fans think? The team stinks, try and get good players.

There was not one available with the upside that RGIII possesses. We are paying him for this year only. If he stinks or acts divaish, then he is gone.

Very low risk, very high reward.

Why is it bad to listen to the "QB expert"?

Hue placed an emphasis on running the ball everywhere he's been. He had Oakland #1 in rushing. RG3 with Washington made them elite in running the ball. I get the feeling Hue is going to place an emphasis on defense and running the ball. Won't be shocked if we draft a running back that fits what he wants.

That's exactly what I was thinking, that we will need to run the ball better no matter who we have at qb and hue likes to run it. if we can get a good run game together this will make us a better team all the way around. I think we will draft a running back by the 4th rd or sooner if we trade down for more picks.

agreed...no harm in tryin...he is healthy now

With RGIII on the team people should probably familiarize themselves with packaged plays.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/packaged-plays-and-the-newest-form-of-option-football/

http://presnapreads.com/2016/03/24/robert-griffin-iii-is-a-great-signing-for-the-cleveland-browns/