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My bad for forming my OWN OPINION rather than regurgitating others. Just watch some film...not low lights...not highlights but several games against good talent. Then tell me how he handles OL...I've seen him do what I described. But thanks for the indirect "LIAR" call man you really are into this discrediting thing... lol laugh Oh wait - What? Oh I misunderstood you... You're the big bully on the board. I ain't going to fold under it.


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Intoducing for The Cleveland Browns, Quarterback Deshawn "The Predator" Watson. He will also be the one to choose your next head coach.

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JC....

I suck at football mock drafts, so please don;t eat me alive!!

I would love to see

Myles Jack (1st round)
Derrick Henry (2nd round)
Cardale Jones/BPA Defense (3rd round)

Jack is a BPA plus a need, we need stud linebacker that is going to strike terror in the AFC north, I think he can do that. I think he could be the 2nd coming of ray lewis.

A qbs best friend is a RB, I think a big RB like Henry could really help RG3, if you stack the box to stop him, RG3 has the deep ball to throw it over the top.

We need a qb to groom no matter what, I feel that Cardale got the shaft because the system he played in did not cater to his playing style, I think he will be awesome as a drop back passer and could really develop into a real weapon in 2-3 years.

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pardon me but was just looking at Jack's profile and at 225 lbs. is that not a tad light for a LB? Mingo is looks light at 240 lbs waiting to see what he looks like at 260 lbs.

I admit I know nothing about Jack but I am think Bosa, Obgah, or Shaw at LB..just my opinion. I think I need to research Jack a little bit more.


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Jack is an inside linebacker. His weight does not need to be all that high.

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oh ok thank you cfrs15 makes tons more sense now...So now I guess my real question is what do we need more a ILB or OLB?...initial thought is OLB...


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We need players that can be great in our schemes regardless of position. Except LT.

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oh ok thank you cfrs15 makes tons more sense now...So now I guess my real question is what do we need more a ILB or OLB?...initial thought is OLB...


We literally need everything.

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Actually, it is.

We were discussing Jack vs Ramsey. You said something about Jack that I disagreed with. No big deal that we disagree for some of us. I then said that I had some online scouting reports that could back -up my opinion. You were not interested in them. You said you viewed game tape. I said it was a tool to help.

guard dawg came on and said/asked:

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Along with everything else Jack does he can defeat blocks.

Vers if you have evidence to the contrary, I want to see it.


I posted a couple of the reports.

You come back w/this crap:

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My bad for forming my OWN OPINION rather than regurgitating others. Just watch some film...not low lights...not highlights but several games against good talent. Then tell me how he handles OL...I've seen him do what I described. But thanks for the indirect "LIAR" call man you really are into this discrediting thing... lol laugh Oh wait - What? Oh I misunderstood you... You're the big bully on the board. I ain't going to fold under it.


I am calling you a liar by posting articles that agree w/my position? I am not allowed to defend my position? That makes me the big bully on the board?

You whine anytime someone disagrees w/your opinions.

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That isn't exactly correct.

Jack would be an ILBer in a 3-4 defense and a WLBer in a 4-3 defense.

Hard to be a huge impact guy as in ILBer in a 3-4.

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Originally Posted By: Versatile Dog
That isn't exactly correct.

Jack would be an ILBer in a 3-4 defense and a WLBer in a 4-3 defense.

Hard to be a huge impact guy as in ILBer in a 3-4.


Right. What I meant was he's not going to be a pass rusher in our defense, therefore his weight won't have to be around 260.

Most teams don't play their base defense that often, so Jack would have a bigger impact than if he only played inside in the 3-4.

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Jack is an inside linebacker. His weight does not need to be all that high.


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Grossi's 1st round (+1) mock, V6 ...


1. Tennessee: FS Jalen Ramsey, Florida State

Nashville native. Dick LeBeau’s new Troy Polamalu. Yeah, that works.


2. Browns: QB Jared Goff, California

Holds steady for the sixth consecutive mock.


3. San Diego: OT Laremy Tunsil, Mississippi

If Titans pass on him, he won’t fall past this spot.


4. Dallas: DE Joey Bosa, Ohio State

Cowboys can take their future quarterback in second round.


5. Jacksonville: LB Myles Jack, UCLA

Jags definitely will upgrade defensive front seven here.


6. Baltimore: DE DeForest Buckner, Oregon

It’s just not fair that an elite defensive lineman falls to the Ravens.


7. San Francisco: QB Carson Wentz, North Dakota State

There may be clarity this week on the future of Colin Kaepernick.


8. Philadelphia: OT Ronnie Stanley, Notre Dame

Speculation of Eagles seeking a quarterback shifts to second round.


9. Tampa Bay: CB Vernon Hargreaves, Florida

This is one of the top 10’s consistent choices.


10. N.Y. Giants: RB Ezekiel Elliott, Ohio State

Their running back situation is not great.


11. Chicago: DT Sheldon Rankins, Louisville


12. New Orleans: DE Shaq Lawson, Clemson


13. Miami: LB Darron Lee, Ohio State


14. Oakland: DT A’Shawn Robinson, Alabama


15. Los Angeles: QB Paxton Lynch, Memphis


16. Detroit: OT Jack Conklin, Michigan State


17. Atlanta: LB Leonard Floyd, Georgia.


18. Indianapolis: OT Taylor Decker, Ohio State


19. Buffalo: WR Laquon Treadwell, Mississippi


20. N.Y. Jets: DE Noah Spence, Eastern Kentucky


21. Washington: LB Reggie Ragland, Alabama


22. Houston: WR Corey Coleman, Baylor


23. Minnesota: WR Josh Doctson, Texas Christian


24. Cincinnati: CB Mackensie Alexander, Clemson


25. Pittsburgh: CB Eli Apple, Ohio State


26. Seattle: OT Jason Spriggs, Indiana


27. Green Bay: NT Andrew Billings, Baylor


28. Kansas City: CB William Jackson, Houston


29. Arizona: C Ryan Kelly, Alabama


30. Carolina: DE Kevin Dodd, Clemson


31. Denver: QB Connor Cook, Michigan State


32. Browns: WR Michael Thomas, Ohio State


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