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Your score is: 8554 (GRADE: B)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10 (NYG): Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
Round 1 Pick 23 (MINN): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 8 (T.B.): Adolphus Washington, DT/DE, Ohio State (B-)
Round 2 Pick 9 (NYG): Tyler Boyd, WR, Pittsburgh (B+)
Round 3 Pick 21 (WASH): Dominique Alexander, ILB/OLB, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 1: Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State (A)
Round 4 Pick 6 (BALT): Nick Vigil, ILB, Utah State (B)
Round 4 Pick 7 (S.F.): Miles Killebrew, SS, Southern Utah (A)
Round 4 Pick 21 (HOU): Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State (A)
Round 4 Pick 28 (K.C.): Jordan Payton, WR, UCLA (A+)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Glenn Gronkowski, FB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 2: Kolby Listenbee, WR, TCU (A+)
Round 5 Pick 3 (S.F.): Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss (B)
Round 5 Pick 23 (K.C.): Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois (A+)
Round 5 Pick 26 (K.C.): Austin Blythe, C, Iowa (C-)
Round 5 Pick 27 (HOU): Beau Sandland, TE, Montana State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Brandon Williams, FS, Texas A&M (D)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Donte Deayon, CB, Boise State (B)
Round 6 Pick 20 (HOU): Keith Marshall, RB, Georgia (A+)

Your score is: 8611 (GRADE: B+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 2: Jalen Ramsey, FS/CB, Florida State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Vonn Bell, SS/FS, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 2: Braxton Miller, WR, Ohio State (B+)
Round 4 Pick 1: Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State (A+)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss (B)
Round 5 Pick 2: Matt Judon, DE/OLB, Grand Valley State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford (A-)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Beau Sandland, TE, Montana State (A-)
Round 6 Pick 1: Daniel Lasco, RB, California (A+)
Round 7 Pick 2: Austin Blythe, C, Iowa (B+)

Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick

no trading back for more picks...wonder how I'll do when trading back?

Hmm ... we need to rebuild the roster in a hurry .... so i grabbed my franchise QB, his backup in the 4th, (why not, it worked for the Redskins) and then 17 more players in this draft ...plus a 1st in both 2017 and 2018.

This drafting stuff isn't so hard .....

Of course, I don't know who most of the players I drafted are ...... but what does that matter?

As an aside, I loved how I would get trade offers, from a team wanting my pick ..... and those offers were worse that what I had. I also loved how I would accept a trade offer,and then the team I traded with would take a worse deal to trade down. lol I think that computer has just a few glitches in its software.

Your score is: 7938 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 2: Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
Round 2 Pick 11 (MIA): Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (A-)
Round 3 Pick 4 (DAL): Carl Nassib, DE/OLB, Penn State (A)
Round 3 Pick 10 (MIA): Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma (A)
Round 4 Pick 18 (IND): Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State (A)
Round 4 Pick 19 (BUF): C.J. Prosise, RB, Notre Dame (A-)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 2: Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota (A)
Round 5 Pick 13 (N.O.): Ben Braunecker, TE, Harvard (A)
Round 5 Pick 14 (PHI): Evan Boehm, C, Missouri (A)
Round 5 Pick 27 (HOU): DeAndre Houston-Carson, FS, William & Mary (B+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): Isaac Seumalo, OG, Oregon State (A-)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson (B+)
Round 6 Pick 14 (DAL): Avery Young, OT, Auburn (C+)
Round 6 Pick 18 (TENN): Antonio Morrison, ILB, Florida (D-)
Round 6 Pick 22 (T.B.): Anthony Zettel, DE, Penn State (B-)
Round 6 Pick 26 (JAX): Charone Peake, WR, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 1 (TENN): Antwaun Woods, DT, Southern California (C)
Round 7 Pick 17 (ATL): Antwione Williams, OLB, Georgia Southern (B-)

Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick

Finally got my last pick in on the draft I was doing on another site:

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With the second pick in the *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Laquon Treadwell, WR Ole Miss.


The Browns need to score touchdowns if they want to compete. Laquon Treadwell is a big, powerful wideout who wins all contested balls and will knock you out in the run game. Some have concern about his long speed, but he's fast enough in pads to run away from combine invite De'Vante Harris for a 60 yard touchdown. He beats double coverage and produces yards after the catch.

He wants the ball more than you. He wants to plant you on your butt when his team runs the ball. He will make you feel like a weak tween girl. You'll look back on when you passed him over to draft a quarterback whose accuracy and decision making are vastly overrated, or the QB who just won the YMCA title and rue the day.



With the 32nd pick in the *** Mock Draft, the Cleveland Browns select

Josh Doctson, WR, Texas Christian.


Cleveland comes back and once again goes wide receiver in nabbing Doctson. For years, the Browns' receiving corp has been one of the worst in the league. It's not even clear if Josh Gordon will be reinstated, or for how long, and even if he is he has only one year remaining on his deal.

Doctson is essentially AJ Green minus an inch and a half of height. Tremendous leaping ability, silly catch radius, and deceptive, gliding speed. With Hue Jackson coming to Cleveland, he will utilize the walk-on-turned-All-American in a role similar to Green, working downfield routes and dominating one-on-one jump balls. Having Treadwell on board to draw coverage as the Z receiver will allow Doctson to play off him in the X role where he can excel. Cleveland has turned an area of weakness (maybe their greatest positional weakness) to an obvious strength to usher in Jackson's new offense.



With the Browns on the clock, all cameras are focused on a QB still stuck in the Green Room. Surely, this is where his slide ends, right? He looks uncomfortable and his phone is not ringing.

With the 65th pick in the *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Cardale Jones, QB, The Ohio State University.


After having secured two big receivers with their first two picks, the Browns select hometown boy Cardale Jones. Jones has an unlimited arm and shocking ball placement skills, a killer combination for targets that win every jump ball and use body positioning well. Jones is fearless in the pocket, with the size and pocket presence to buy time and get the pass off just before absorbing the hit from rushing defenders. And unlike the other QB prospect from Cleveland, would relish the opportunity to play quarterback for the Browns.


With the 100th pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft, the Cleveland Browns select

Cyrus Jones, CB Alabama

With Justin Gilbert busting, Tramon Williams fading and Joe Haden ailing, the Browns are in a serious pickle at corner. Cyrus Jones is one of the most underrated players in the draft due to his smaller stature, and perhaps in part because of the stigma of the pro translation of recent Alabama football players. Jones is highly competitive and aggressive in coverage, showing great ball skills and toughness. He is also electric as a returner, filling the void left behind in the punt game by Travis Benjamin's departure to San Diego.


With the 139th pick in the *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Roberto Aguayo, K, Florida State

As bad as they were last year, the Browns lost multiple games last year because they didn't have a kicker who could close the deal. The Browns went last-minute off-the-board with this one, and boosted their special teams cred with the best kicker prospect in years.


With the 142nd pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Victor Ochi, OLB, Stony Brook.

The Browns nab Ochi, the FCS terror (collecting 13 sacks and 16.5 TFLs in 2015) with long arms and violent, heavy hands to ramp up their edge rush. Ochi dominated the Shrine Bowl, clearly the best player on defense as he demolished left tackles and erased his opponent's passing game from the blind side.


With the 173rd pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Tyrone Holmes, OLB Montana

The Browns double up on FCS pass rushers as they nab Holmes, the ultra productive (18 sacks in 2015) edge defender who made life miserable for Carson Wentz and the Bison the opening game of the college football season. Holmes has the athleticism to turn the corner but is able to set the edge well in the run game too.


With the 174th pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Brandon Shell, OT South Carolina

With the departure of Mitchell Schwartz in free agency and the conversion to a power blocking scheme, the Browns need to add new personnel on the offensive line. Shell is a big, powerful tackle with excellent bloodlines but likely limited to a RT role in the pros. Fortunately, that is just what the Browns are looking for.


With the 177th pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Kalan Reed, CB Southern Miss

Reed has an elite blend of athleticism and size for the cornerback position and isn't afraid to get physical attacking the ballcarrier. Sub 4.4 40, long arms, 40+ vertical, and good ball skills.


With the 224th pick in the 2016 *** Mock Draft,

The Cleveland Browns select Trevon Stewart, DB Houston.

The Browns are starting fresh at safety with the departures of Donte Whitner and Tashaun Gipson, so adding a playmaker like Stewart is a coup for the Browns in the 7th round. Stewart is less noted than his defensive backfield mate William Jackson, but has been the defensive leader the past two years and was team captain as a junior. The instinctive Stewart has done a bit of everything for the Cougars the past few seasons, whether asked to make volume tackles (110 tackles as a freshman earning Freshman first team AP All American honors as a safety), turning the ball over (1st All-time in Houston Cougar history with 10 fumble recoveries, 7th all-time in interceptions with 12), or to stack the line and make plays in the backfield (10.5 TFLs, 6 sacks as a senior from the safety & nickel positions) and was an impact player in whatever role they needed him to play. Stewart will compete for the starting free safety job with holdover Jordan Poyer and offseason signee Rahim Moore and can contribute in sub packages as well.

I'd probably go trenches instead of Aguayo, but the end result looks pretty good.

Steve, if I were in charge, I would hire you right now based on that draft. I absolutely love the first 3 picks!! (Of course, I am a know nothing fan.)

I'd love to grab Treadwell, but I would move down if he's the target. Even if you don't get great value, move down a few spots, and pick up extra picks if you know the guy you want will still be there.. IMO.

See, that's the hard part. "know the guy you want will still be there"


GMs don't all value players the same way. If the SD GM sees Treadwell as a superstar, he might take him at 3.


We look at these Big Boards made by guys on draft websites. But NFL GM's do their own process and make their own evaluations. That's what they're paid so much to do (whether they're that good at it or not)


You just don't know what teams will do. That's why if you're guy is there, and he's the one you rate the highest, you take him. Because you have no idea how these other guys view him.


EDIT: I don't see Treadwell as that great of a player though, so that's wouldn't have been my pick. No biggie though. I like the Doctson pick

If this draft allowed trades I would have tried to move down for sure. And then I probably would have tried to move up from 32 to get Doctson. Somehow 4 WRs went in the 1st and Doctson wasn't one of them.



I agree that San Diego is definitely a potential landing spot for Treadwell. Baltimore, too.

While I don't like Treadwell at 2, Doctson at 32 is a steal IMO.


I'm stuck on what QB I prefer, but I hope that the Browns org, who's done a lot more homework on it than me, finds one they like.



A trade down though, with hopes of grabbing Ezekiel Elliot and a 1st rounder next year, and maybe Conor Cook in the 2nd round wouldn't be that bad though (if they don't like either QB). He's got talent and I love his experience, I just wish he was more consistent with his throws. He can be reallllly inaccurate.

The issue I have with the QB position is that it's not simply an "insert name here" position. You don't answer your QB problem by simply drafting whatever leftovers happen to be on the board.

I would have thought Browns fans above every other fan base in the NFL would have learned that lesson by now.

I agree, the QB position is not one where you look for "value"... you look for long term quality

I'm sure you had reason for picking who you picked where you picked. I'm guessing you're a BPA available guy?

Can't be mad getting 2 of the top 4 receivers in the draft, both of whom show the potential to be #1 receivers in a draft that doesn't have many.

I would have liked to land a more premium level edge rusher and blue chipper along the OL.

I think you took 12 guage too high for my taste, even though I like him as QB project-prospect.

Cyrus Jones, made his great grand children believe he could live to a 103....I think Jones is an underrated CB prospect in this class. Cyrus Jones lived forever!

The kicker depends on who else was on the board, I've got some players on my target list there.

But when you land the top 2 WR prospects and the best kicker in awhile; that's a solid draft.

Sign a RT, that offense should be in business.

Yeah, I know it's not. I don't like Goff's ball placement and he makes bad decisions more than I'd like drafting at 2 (INTs vs Wash St, USC, Stanford {or was it UCLA?} were all pretty bad decisions). I don't know what Wentz is, but I know we don't have any examples of games where he has shown he can be good in the NFL. Cook is not good. Hackenberg is awful. Prescott is spotty. Jones shows excellent ball placement, can throw to all levels of the field, and can take a hit and make an accurate throw. I think he is as good of a QB candidate as there is, and believe he has proven more in his 8 or so starts aganist Wisconsin, Michigan State, Alabama, Oregon, Virginia Tech, Maryland, etc. than Wentz, who nobody would have blinked an eye had I taken him at 2.

My reply was more about people who install several names as possible QB's. You know kind of, "Well if this guy doesn't fall, we can always pick *insert name here*."

I just don't believe drafting a QB is like throwing darts at a dart board. I would never pick Jones because I've never really seen him read a defense ever. I've seen a lot of QB's that can throw the ball and never amounted to anything. That's the one ingredient that all NFL QB's need to have in order to play at a high level in the NFL.

But that really wasn't my issue. If Jones is the target, that's the QB they need to key on and not just draft a QB to draft a QB. We've seen that re-run too many times. QB isn't like other NFL positions.

So my post was far more directed towards drafting who you have targeted at QB, not just have a list of possibilities and take the leftovers, whoever that may be.

I like Wentz and believe he will be the best out of this draft class. I believe his talents will transfer better at the NFL level than any other QB in this draft. What I won't do is say I'm right or that he is the one QB this FO should target.

Hopefully they can do a better job than someone like me who is a fan and not somebody making seven figures as their career.

I've always enjoyed your draft breakdowns and I'm not comparing what I know to you. I just know that while looking at a draftees competition level is a tool to be used, I don't believe it's the be all end all.

Yeah I agree with your post except the part about Wentz. Honestly I don't know how to tell if a guy is reading defenses or not. I don't think that we will be drafting someone who is more ready to start than Griffin, so if we're taking someone who will need to sit and learn, might as well make it the guy that has shown the traits and has shown accuracy. Jones was my target and I was hoping one of a few guys would fall to my third but when none of them did I figured I would take Jones and not risk losing him, too. Someone else later posted they were considering taking him with their third so I was glad I grabbed him when I did. I'm not trying to say I know more than others, but based on what I've seen, Jones is the QB I want.

Any thoughts on Gilbert Grape?

Other than what's eating him? Not really.

I like it over all, quite a bit. I am not a fan of Cardale, and the Aguayo pick surprised me - but overall I really like it.

Question - where was Denver Kirkland taken? If anywhere near 174, why Shell over him (or do you view Kirkland more of a Guard)?

So is everyone re-doing their mocks now that news is out about Gordon?

I don't think a lot of people were counting on Gordon anyway.

Grimm, you are correct about the hips and shoulders; however, if you have your feet set correctly and pointed where you want to throw 9 times out of 10 you will have your shoulders and hips where they need to be to be accurate and have velocity.

Ray Farmer isn't.

Vers, I think you are right and wrong in your assumptions here. First, think of a power hitter in baseball, their power is generated from the hips and bat speed. That's where I think you are wrong about your post. Second, I think you are right about how important it is to have you feet set properly and how your footwork in general is necessary for accuracy, but also for zip on the ball.

The thing that is important to remember is that when your feet are positioned well then your shoulders and hips are almost always going to be positioned correctly. There are rare occasions when the two don't match up, but very seldom because to have them out of sink is asking for not only inaccuracy and less zip on the ball, but also for shoulder weakness and injury.

Best post in a while Vers (JK)

Don't need to.

Yep. Hence my draft. Thought he might be back this year but not beyond that.

Thanks for the feedback, clwb. The Aguayo pick surprised me, too, lol.

We're on pick 242 and Kirkland is still available. Shell is significantly more athletic than Kirkland and they have similar size and length. Bloodlines help, too.

The more I look at your draft and the more I think about it the more sense it makes. It should, if they work out, solve our WR problem that we've been having for years. Two picks and our starting WR positions should be set for the foreseeable future.

That's hard for me to say because I've always been negative about drafting WRs high in the first round. But to eliminate the concern going forward makes sense.

Thanks ddub. For us to get those two players in reality, we'll probably have to trade up to get Doctson. Of course, we more than likely could trade down to get Treadwell. We could get the two players and effectively move our 3rd up into the early 2nd and potentially pick up another mid round pick. I'd be all about it of course.

I do like Treadwell, but his speed is somewhat concerning. I think he's more Boldin than Fitzgerald. I do think he would help in the run game.

Trying to figure out where to take him is the hard part.

I like Michael Thomas, too. Getting 2 of those 3 would be great (including Doctson).

I think it might be easier to get Thomas and Doctson. It's hard without knowing what all the other teams are doing.

steve, I think if the Browns really, really wanted Treadwell, they could trade down, acquire extra picks, and still get him.

I respect your opinions, but I would not draft Treadwell w/the second overall pick.

I would have done it too, but this was a mock on another website where I was representing the Browns (and Broncos) and trading was not allowed.

Round 4 complete :

Round 4:

#99 Chiefs (from Browns) - Sean Davis, S, Maryland
#100 Eagles - Jordan Howard, RB, Indiana
#101 Cowboys - Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
#102 Chargers - Rashard Higgins, WR, Colorado State
#103 Jaguars - Nick Vannett, TE, Ohio State
#104 Ravens - Rashard Robinson, CB, LSU
#105 49ers - Kenny Lawler, WR, Cal
#106 Bears - KeiVarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame
#107 Dolphins - Maliek Collins, DT, Nebraska
#108 Buccaneers - Joe Haeg, OT, NDSU
#109 Giants - Tyler Matakevich, LB, Temple
#110 Rams - Roberto Aguayo, K, FSU
#111 Lions - Charles Tapper, DE, Oklahoma
#112 Cowboys (from Saints) - Hassan Ridgeway, DT, Texas
#113 Titans - Cardale Jones, QB, Ohio State
#114 Raiders - DeAndre Houston-Carson, S, William & Mary
#115 Falcons - Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky
#116 Colts - Joe Dahl, OG, Washington State
#117 Bills - Anthony Zettel, DE, Penn State
#118 Bengals (from Jets) - Landon Turner, OG, UNC
#119 Texans - Graham Glasgow, C, Michigan
#120 Redskins - Evan Boehm, C, Missouri
#121 Vikings - Eric Striker, LB, Oklahoma
#122 Bengals - Aaron Burbridge, WR, Michigan State
#123 Steelers - Jonathan Jones, CB, Auburn
#124 Jaguars (from Seahawks) - Nick Vigil, LB, Utah State
#125 Packers - Willie Beavers, OT, Western Michigan
#126 Browns (from Chiefs) - Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
#127 Bears - Cole Toner, OT, Harvard
#128 Cardinals - Trevone Boykin, QB, TCU
#129 Panthers - John Theus, OT, Georgia
#130 Chargers (from Ravens) - Isaac Seumalo, C, Oregon State
comp#131 Packers - Joe Schobert, OLB, Wisconsin
comp#132 Ravens - Jatavis Brown, SS/LB, Akron
comp#133 49ers - Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford
comp#134 Ravens - Jonathan Williams, RB, Arkansas
comp#135 Cowboys - Maurice Canady, CB, Virginia
comp#136 Broncos - Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass
comp#137 Packers - James Bradberry, CB, Samford
comp#138 Browns - Victor Ochi, LB, Stony Brook
comp#139 Bills - Spencer Drango, OG, Baylor

Browns : 1-4

#2 Browns - Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State
#28 Browns (from Chiefs) - Josh Doctson, WR, TCU
#65 Browns - Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford
#126 Browns (from Chiefs) - Cyrus Jones, CB, Alabama
comp#138 Browns - Victor Ochi, LB, Stony Brook

I'd be totally ok with that, and I'm not even sure I want Wentz.

Don´t know if Wentz is the answer , but a franchise-QB is the only way out of the tunnel.....
We must find the long-time signal-caller. Do or die.

Love the last two picks, obviously

Here is my mock draft from First-Pick.com. I got a lot of high grades, but my overall grade wasn't so good. Not sure why, but it is what it is.

Your score is: 8072 (GRADE: C+)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 2: Carson Wentz, QB, North Dakota State (A+)
Round 1 Pick 11 (CHI): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 1: Michael Thomas, WR, Ohio State (B)
Round 4 Pick 1: Joe Haeg, OT, North Dakota State (B)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Briean Boddy-Calhoun, CB, Minnesota (A-)
Round 5 Pick 2: Eric Striker, OLB/ILB, Oklahoma (A+)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): James Cowser, DE/OLB, Southern Utah (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Fahn Cooper, OT, Ole Miss (A+)
Round 6 Pick 1: Blake Martinez, ILB, Stanford (A-)
Round 7 Pick 2: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns (B+)

Your Future Picks:
2018 Round 1 Pick

Your score is: 9279 (GRADE: A-)

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 10 (NYG): Jared Goff, QB, California (A+)
Round 1 Pick 27 (G.B.): Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State (A+)
Round 2 Pick 9 (NYG): Josh Doctson, WR, TCU (A)
Round 3 Pick 15 (N.O.): Kyle Murphy, OT, Stanford (B)
Round 3 Pick 26 (PITT): Derrick Henry, RB, Alabama (A+)
Round 4 Pick 40 (COMP): Glenn Gronkowski, FB, Kansas State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 2: Roberto Aguayo, K, Florida State (A)
Round 5 Pick 33 (COMP): James Cowser, DE/OLB, Southern Utah (B+)
Round 5 Pick 34 (COMP): Willie Henry, DT, Michigan (B+)
Round 6 Pick 1: D.J. Reader, DT, Clemson (B)
Round 7 Pick 2: Moritz Boehringer, WR/TE, Schwäbisch Hall Unicorns (B+)

Your Future Picks:
2017 Round 1 Pick
2018 Round 1 Pick



Would have liked more defense, but players kept dropping. Didn't want 2 RBs that early, but Henry late 3rd is a steal.