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If they really aren't high on Goff, they could still probably move down with the 9ners. I'd prefer they took him, but who knows what they will do. This is a dream scenario for me, if reports are true and they love Wentz (who I am not as high on) then Goff is a no brain choice IMO. Agreed. And if Goff (or Wentz) isn't seen as a franchise guy, let's just get Tunsil. This fills the RT hole and gives us a guy who can replace Joe Thomas when the time comes. I know a lot of folks don't want a tackle, but to me, it's a no brainer. We either see the other QB as a franchise guy, continue to entertain trade down deals, or draft Tunsil. I just don't think Ramsey or Bosa are worth the number two pick....... There is STILL a lot of grumbling around trading Joe Thomas, so it's not as crazy as I want it to sound.
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Micheal Silver on NFL network just said he has talked to a lot of GM's in position to deeply evaluate this year's Qb prospects and that most have Goff rated as a better prospect than Wentz.
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Of course its Wentz but can it be for another? Are they desperate for LT, FS...nah has to be the QB...man this really really sucks! So much for Wentz not being a legit QB for #2. My only hope is its for California Golden Boy to fill that L.A. stadium. 
So assuming its Wentz...now a trade back is more than likely nothing as big time that Titans got. Time to auction of Tunsil, Ramsey or Jack. Not far back either it would be nice to get Jack and picks out of this?
jmho man this sucks...please tell me this is a Onion place and a joke?
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That was mentioned in the LaCanfora piece yesterday as well, regarding most NFL teams preferring Goff.
It appears the Rams think differently.
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I have a different take, mac.
I don't think the Browns should have moved up. Instead, I wish they would have made that trade w/the Rams. Getting all those picks would have gone a long way in rebuilding this team. Why would the Rams make that trade with the Browns? Say the Rams' target is indeed Wentz, they trade with the Browns for #2..... and then Philly, San Fran, or whoever then trades up to #1 and takes Wentz instead. Then what? A Rams-Browns trade could only happen during the draft itself, with the Browns on the clock. Well there are some exceptions, for example during the Luck/RG3 draft but Washington knew they were going to get RG3 but would have been more than happy if Luck was there instead.
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I liked Wentz, but believe Goff may be as good or better. I have no idea. Neither do the Browns. I don't see how you can criticize them for not trading up from two to one. If the Titans were to do that, it would be a draft day decision and they would not get this kind of haul.
If we still want a QB, then take whichever one is there at two. You might get the best one, anyway.
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I'm just one guy, but Wentz is going to hold the ball at the NFL level. We've seen that act before.
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I think Goff is the better QB. Only argument against him is that have may have reached his ceiling. Only time will tell with any of these guys.
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Has it been confirmed that the Rams are going to draft Wentz?
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Yeah we're always the victim. BooHoo. Just take the best talent available at 2.
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Yeah we're always the victim. BooHoo. Just take the best talent available at 2. Tunsil then
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Has it been confirmed that the Rams are going to draft Wentz? No, it has not. Rumors are swirling on both fronts Goff and Wentz at this point.
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Has it been confirmed that the Rams are going to draft Wentz? Just a few rumor tweets. Why would they not take Goff? Taking a California hometown boy for the team that's coming home too? Ultimately, this means one QB is guaranteed to be gone. The Browns may have wanted the other QB anyway. Who knows. If the Browns don't want the "other QB", I think it would be kinda cool to get the same trade from another team that does want him.
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If we aren't in on goff ideally we hope SF or Phi reallybwants him
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Thanks. I didn't think it had been confirmed, but certain posters are stating it as a fact and I thought perhaps I missed something. Anyways........I think this is actually good news for the Browns. The price for the second overall pick just went up. The Browns have a ton of needs and now they have a better chance of getting a very good deal by moving down in the draft. It's a good day to be a Brown's fan, y'all. 
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Well obviously I would only hope that it would be Goff. But sitting now at #1. And obviously not a chance of trading the pick. There is no stealth. Heck they probably will get the contract done prior to the draft...signed and sealed.
So it will become 100% sure stuff soon enough. 
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Has it been confirmed that the Rams are going to draft Wentz? Not confirmed by the Rams. Strongly considered to be the pick. Anything can happen though, I suppose.
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If the Browns don't want the "other QB", I think it would be kinda cool to get the same trade from another team that does want him. Yeah, I am hoping that the Rams do announce which guy they want. That might help us in making a trade w/a team that wants the other guy.
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I agree. But I'm afraid to get my hopes up to high 
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Has it been confirmed that the Rams are going to draft Wentz? Just a few rumor tweets. Why would they not take Goff? Taking a California hometown boy for the team that's coming home too? Ultimately, this means one QB is guaranteed to be gone. The Browns may have wanted the other QB anyway. Who knows. If the Browns don't want the "other QB", I think it would be kinda cool to get the same trade from another team that does want him. Likely it would be either the 49'ers or the Eagles. We wouldn't get the same volume of picks as the Titans received. The "value" of the picks should be similar however...
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It almost appears to me that our new front office anticipated this, so they grabbed RGIII.
I now wouldn't doubt that they are also working potential trades with, Eagles, 49's, Broncos and ??
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It almost appears to me that our new front office anticipated this, so they grabbed RGIII.
I now wouldn't doubt that they are also working potential trades with, Eagles, 49's, Broncos and ?? Fittingly.... Adam Scheffer Verified account @AdamSchefter Today's trade was big win for Cleveland; its leverage for No. 2 pick went way up. Anyone who wants next QB now needs to pay up to Cleveland. Tweet
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Seriously, other than making the trade w/the Rams ourselves, this news is actually GREAT news for the Browns. 
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Great news!
How often does the best player in the draft fall in your lap?
Laremy Tunsil or trade down You're kidding, right? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? This team lacks talent so, of course, the Browns will trade down and accumulate a bunch of lesser talent. Because that has worked SO well for them in the past. Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that.
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It almost appears to me that our new front office anticipated this, so they grabbed RGIII.
I now wouldn't doubt that they are also working potential trades with, Eagles, 49's, Broncos and ?? Fittingly.... Adam Scheffer Verified account @AdamSchefter Today's trade was big win for Cleveland; its leverage for No. 2 pick went way up. Anyone who wants next QB now needs to pay up to Cleveland. Tweet
Either way, if someone is scared that Goff will be gone, or they might not get Ramsey or Tunstil, then we are the place to come.
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How much of a drop off is there between Wentz, Goff and the next best QB? We could make a big trade with someone for our #2 and then take the next best QB with the newly acquired picks. If Goff or Wentz is our choice then we stay where we are and don't make a trade.
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Yep. If they want Goff, he is right there. If they want Tunsil or Ramsey, they got them. If anyone else wanted them, make them pay. I'd love to trade with San Francisco and get maybe a 2nd this year and 1st next and only drop 5 spots. Doubt it happens, but it would help a ton and you still are sitting good at 7
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Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that. We have different guys running this draft than we have had in the past. Trade down, baby!!!! Get more picks!!!! This is a GREAT day for the Browns!!!!
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I am onboard with this being a good situation for most other teams, if they were sitting in the #2 spot.. But I am also wise to this franchise's propensity to turn a good situation into yet another circus. Everybody is just waiting to write the punchlines.
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Hmmm, crazy afterthought -----
what if Titans still covet 'Tunsil' and now have the trades to move back up to us to get him?
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Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that. We have different guys running this draft than we have had in the past. Trade down, baby!!!! Get more picks!!!! This is a GREAT day for the Browns!!!!
I'm looking at the Cowboys or the Eagles to make some calls to our FO. Jerry seems like the type to be reactionary to stuff like this, so he'd let emotion get the better of him and trade up to us. He won't want to let LA make more press than "America's Team". His ego will allow him to make a mistake. And here's me crossing my fingers that he does.
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How much of a drop off is there between Wentz, Goff and the next best QB? We could make a big trade with someone for our #2 and then take the next best QB with the newly acquired picks. If Goff or Wentz is our choice then we stay where we are and don't make a trade. Lynch is ranked as bottom of the 1st or top of the second, but in reality QB's always go a bit higher so he's likely to be drafted somewhere between #10 to #20.
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You're kidding, right? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? This team lacks talent so, of course, the Browns will trade down and accumulate a bunch of lesser talent. Because that has worked SO well for them in the past. Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that. We got it right with Joe Thomas...... 9 seasons, never missed a game. According to Wikipedia he made 8 straight probowls all the way to 2014, i think he made it in 2015. So that's 9 seasons, no games missed, 9 straight pro bowls. One guy clearly doesn't make a team. The QB position is far and away the most important position as well. Follow that with an elite pass rushing DE like JJ Watt. But after that, a stud LT who never misses a game is a pretty solid choice. Looking at the 2007 draft and where we picked from, you could argue that Darrelle Revis, Adrian Peterson, and Patrick Willis were at Thomas' level or above. But that's about it that I can see. 2007, we did a pretty darn good job with Joe Thomas..... Then we mucked it all up with the Brady Quinn pick at the cursed 22 spot. Thomas will be a Hall Of Famer, he was a good choice with the number 3 slot
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Hmmm, crazy afterthought -----
what if Titans still covet 'Tunsil' and now have the trades to move back up to us to get him?
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Check out this quote from their GM:
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Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that. This Browns FO have never drafted anyone.
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Could it be that the Browns will now draft Tunsil and trade Thomas for more picks? It's not like making a hole just to fill it. I mean if Thomas brings 2 #1s, for example then we have his replacement plus more picks.
Like many ideas, it's just idle rambling/speculation on my part!
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Great news!
How often does the best player in the draft fall in your lap?
Laremy Tunsil or trade down You're kidding, right? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? This team lacks talent so, of course, the Browns will trade down and accumulate a bunch of lesser talent. Because that has worked SO well for them in the past. Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that. No. I am not kidding...are you kidding? Lol.  I'm gonna answer your rhetorical questions with questions of my own. When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft?Is every Browns front office the same? Are the people making decisions now the same people making decisions for the Browns throughout history? So take the QB right? Because that's works soo well? Or wait a second what position have the Browns actually drafted that is headed to HOF? Oh wait its an OT. If the Browns NEVER get it right then why the worry? By your logic no matter what they do it will fail right? So don't sweat it. By your logic whomever they draft will fail, which includes QBs.
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