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Could it be that the Browns will now draft Tunsil and trade Thomas for more picks? It's not like making a hole just to fill it. I mean if Thomas brings 2 #1s, for example then we have his replacement plus more picks.

Like many ideas, it's just idle rambling/speculation on my part!


in that scenario I would keep Tunsil and Thomas and anchor both ends of the line...yea I could dig that


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Great news!
How often does the best player in the draft fall in your lap?

Laremy Tunsil or trade down
You're kidding, right? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? This team lacks talent so, of course, the Browns will trade down and accumulate a bunch of lesser talent. Because that has worked SO well for them in the past. Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that.
No. I am not kidding...are you kidding? Lol. wink

I'm gonna answer your rhetorical questions with questions of my own.

When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft? When have the Browns EVER gotten it right in the draft?Is every Browns front office the same? Are the people making decisions now the same people making decisions for the Browns throughout history?

So take the QB right? Because that's works soo well? Or wait a second what position have the Browns actually drafted that is headed to HOF? Oh wait its an OT.

If the Browns NEVER get it right then why the worry? By your logic no matter what they do it will fail right? So don't sweat it. By your logic whomever they draft will fail, which includes QBs.


I could see it, but my best rated player is Ramsey.

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me too, would love to get Ramsey at 2...WR hopefully at 32...yup my dream scenario


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I don't see how Thomas gets us two No. 1 picks. And if we draft Tunsil and trade Thomas for a late No. 1, then we have just gotten younger at LT and acquired a late 1. I don't think it helps that much.

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I also don't like endlessly building the OL with No. 1 picks. I like have some solidguys, but we need impact skill guys, too.

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Insider Buzz: Multiple Sources Believe Rams Will Draft Jared Goff with Top Pick


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26328...f-with-top-pick

kinda what I thought too...I don't see how this would be a negative for us...just a bonus if they trade back...but hope we don't


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2 things:

It makes no sense for the Rams to leak details about who they are interested in taking as a smokescreen ....... because no one can jump them. It has been reported numerous times that Wentz is the guy they really like, and now reports are that's who they will take, so why would they need to lie. They aren't going to somehow get even more out of us in order to trade down. crazy lol

The only reason they would wait is so that if something bad happens to him between now and the draft, they are not locked in.

Also, as noted, reports are that we like Goff more than anyone else in the draft, so our plans will likely be unchanged.


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There is no player in this draft that is worth what the Rams just gave up. This has been a very strange offseason for them one I am sure most of their fans would like to forget.


There really isn't. I think the Rams blew it doing this.

You'd think they'd know about mega trades. They were on the good side of one in 2012 when they received a boat load of picks for the 2nd pick. Worked out great for the team that traded the pick, not so good for the team that traded away the future.

Thanks, but man, I think the titans pilfered a lot from the Rams.

None of the top QB's in this draft compare to Luck or RGIII (or at least what RGIII was supposed to be in 2012 and hopefully will be again fingerscrossed)


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Hmmm, crazy afterthought -----
what if Titans still covet 'Tunsil' and now have the trades to move back up to us to get him?


The titans gm alluded to exactly that just a little while ago. Saying something of the sort that this only locks them out of one player and have plenty of ammo to make any move they want

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Hmmm, crazy afterthought -----
what if Titans still covet 'Tunsil' and now have the trades to move back up to us to get him?


The titans gm alluded to exactly that just a little while ago. Saying something of the sort that this only locks them out of one player and have plenty of ammo to make any move they want


And if our sights are set on someone that can be gotten later, we'd be fools not to listen.


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It has been reported numerous times that Wentz is the guy they really like, and now reports are that's who they will take,


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Insider Buzz: Multiple Sources Believe Rams Will Draft Jared Goff with Top Pick


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26328...f-with-top-pick


You guys are confusing me.

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At this point all we can do is hope.

Every year I have held out hope that the Browns would get a quarterback worthy of being a true franchise player.

Every year they have missed out.


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Last night on my way home from work I was listening to the NFL Network on my Sirius Radio and they had Jim Miller and Pat Kirwan on and Kirwan was saying that the Browns' scouting department liked Wentz but that the coaching staff preferred Goff so if we stay at #2 we may get our guy anyway.


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Stockpiling picks only works if you actually draft guys who can play. The Browns have not shown the ability to do that.


This Browns FO have never drafted anyone.


And there's reality. New FO...new results? Just because some fans are stuck in the past, doesn't mean our team management needs to be.

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You guys are confusing me.


I think the media is confusing everyone.


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This is either the worst thing or the best thing.

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Question, and no, I haven't scoured this thread to see if it's been brought up: Can the Rams announce who they're taking prior to the draft and start talking contract & what-not early?

I want to say that's what Cinci did back when they took Carson Palmer #1.

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Question, and no, I haven't scoured this thread to see if it's been brought up: Can the Rams announce who they're taking prior to the draft and start talking contract & what-not early?

I want to say that's what Cinci did back when they took Carson Palmer #1.


Yes, they can. I believe the NFL frowns upon it because it takes the excitement out of the first pick.

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At this point all we can do is hope.

Every year I have held out hope that the Browns would get a quarterback worthy of being a true franchise player.

Every year they have missed out.



Here's the facts. Getting a Franchise QB is a 50/50 prospect in the first round anyway. The Browns are not the only team that "missed out". And, while the QB position is important, several teams in recent years (Seattle, Denver) have proven that you don't need a superstar to win the whole thing.

I am in the minority as far as seeing this as a good thing but I'm going to reserve any judgement until the draft actually unfolds. We still have two weeks and anything can happen.

As for getting our "guy", I would like to believe that when you are drafting #2 that you can't get tunnel vision and bank on that one guy. You stack your board and you stick to it. If you hinge your whole draft on, "We have to get Wentz/Goff or whomever" then you will always fail as an organization. We must be flexible because this is only the first domino to fall. When there are trades later in the round, it's not as serious, but when there's a blockbuster trade at the top, then people start getting nervous.

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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


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It has been reported numerous times that Wentz is the guy they really like, and now reports are that's who they will take,


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Insider Buzz: Multiple Sources Believe Rams Will Draft Jared Goff with Top Pick


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/26328...f-with-top-pick


You guys are confusing me.


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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.

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Hard to even put into words watching the bums the Browns have run out there as their quarterback.

Just the thought of continuing on that path makes me ill.

I don't know about Goff. But I believe Wentz has the tools and the mental makeup to be a great quarterback.

The quote "being a Browns fan is like taking your dog to the vet to be put down." Fits perfectly.

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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.


the only reason to leap frog us is to get the guy they think we are after...In my mind it's Goff...can't swear to it or prove it...just the way it sits with me is all.


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lol good call on the trading up part


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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.


the only reason to leap frog us is to get the guy they think we are after...In my mind it's Goff...can't swear to it or prove it...just the way it sits with me is all.


That is not the only reason. They could be worried about another team getting the #1 pick and then they don't have their choice.

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Snap!

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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.


the only reason to leap frog us is to get the guy they think we are after...In my mind it's Goff...can't swear to it or prove it...just the way it sits with me is all.


That is not the only reason. They could be worried about another team getting the #1 pick and then they don't have their choice.


Exactly, if you're going to go all in, go all in, don't half-ass a trade up and still leave doubt.

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hmm yea I can see that ...If we don't get Ramsey...I'm thinking I could dig Thomas at LT and Tunsil at RT. anchor both sides of the O-line with Bit at LG and Greco at RG...and if Erving steps up at C...then we might just have a line to run behind...hmm...yup I could dig that scenario


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I mocked the Titans/Rams trade back on Feb. 12 on WalterFootball.com's Mock Draft site. Had it all right except for the Rams throwing in the second 2nd rnd pick this year and Tenn. throwing in their 4th and 6th rnd picks.

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I mocked the Titans/Rams trade back on Feb. 12 on WalterFootball.com's Mock Draft site. Had it all right except for the Rams throwing in the second 2nd rnd pick this year and Tenn. throwing in their 4th and 6th rnd picks.

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I think most link us to Goff. and if that is the case the Rams would not have leaped frogged to get Wentz...my money is they get Goff at 1. leaving Wentz, Ramsey, Tunsil etc. for us.


People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.


the only reason to leap frog us is to get the guy they think we are after...In my mind it's Goff...can't swear to it or prove it...just the way it sits with me is all.


That is not the only reason. They could be worried about another team getting the #1 pick and then they don't have their choice.


Exactly, if you're going to go all in, go all in, don't half-ass a trade up and still leave doubt.


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People have linked us to both Goff and Wentz. Also, trading up to #2 means that other teams can't trade up to #1.


If we have been putting out word that we really like Wentz and that prompted the Lambs to get antsy and trade up, then we won. Do they even know which guy of those two we actually covet?

Now if they planned to go get a guy all along and wanted to be 100% sure they'd get him, then that's a bold move, but the right one for LA (it hurts me to type that). But as many have said, that's too much to pay for any guy in this draft. There's no Andrew Luck or Manning in this draft. Both Goff and Wentz are not locks but I'm not GM so who am I to say about the soul of these kids.

Either way, we are sitting pretty at #2. And all the pressure is on LA. If they miss on this pick, in any way, they've crippled themselves for a minimum of 3 years. They better be sure. The Browns, on the other hand, do not have that much pressure on them. They take the BPOTDB (Best Player on their Draft Board) and move on.

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hmm yea I can see that ...If we don't get Ramsey...I'm thinking I could dig Thomas at LT and Tunsil at RT. anchor both sides of the O-line with Bit at LG and Greco at RG...and if Erving steps up at C...then we might just have a line to run behind...hmm...yup I could dig that scenario


That's what I'm thinking. Thomas, Bitonio, Erving, Greco, and Tunsil would be just fine. And we would have our LT of the future solidified.

This with the assumption that whoever the QB who falls to us isn't viewed by us as Franchise QB worthy.


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We are sitting pretty. . . unless they take the QB we wanted all along.

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They have needs at almost every key position, however, with RG3 now on the roster, they know they can at least get through one season before drafting a franchise QB, because a healthy RG3 will be more than suitable.

Sometimes things do happen for a reason, even in sports. At this point, maybe it is fate that earlier this very week Josh Gordon had his application for re-instatement denied to re-enter the NFL. Leaving the Browns even less talented at WR.
This should open the door for LaQuan Treadwell, the best wide receiver coming out of the draft from The University of Mississippi. He is the physical and big receiver that the Browns sorely lacked last season.

Treadwell is and All American and the 2013 SEC Freshman of the year. He has power, speed and great hands, all talents the Browns receivers lacked last year.

At 6”2 and 210 pounds, he has the size that will allow him to get off the jam at the line, and also the speed to go deep. His size also makes him a key threat for post routes in the end zone. Something the Browns were awful at last year.

The other key ingredient is that most mock drafts don’t have Treadwell getting picked until the teens, the Browns can make a trade, stock up on some picks and still get him mid first round. Perhaps the Rams just did the Browns the biggest favor since coming back in 1999?

Time will tell……………………..

hmm interesting take on it...I have been thinking Defense and BPA at 2..but this is something to ponder for at least a second.


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For the people who want non-QBs this is a dream. We get to pick whatever player we want or trade down. Pretty cool.

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We are sitting pretty. . . unless they take the QB we wanted all along.


or maybe a QB is not what we wanted all along...even better for us then.


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We have different guys running this draft than we have had in the past.



HA! We have different guys almost very year. I hope this group get's that we'll end up with lessor talent again if we trade down out of the first round. We need to start getting the top talent the draft has to offer and not reach for quantity. We gotta start getting the top notch quality guys that you can only get in the top 10 picks


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