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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
Hiliary is kind of mopping the floor with Bernie.


I agree. I think she won this debate.

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Sadly I'm in more of the SUV Market right now, although it's hard not to cross shop some high end sports cars with SUV Prices. Maybe split the difference with a Chevy SS or AMG C63? smile

A guy who goes cruising with us here in Green though has 2 Ford GTs and has filled out the application. He definitely has the cash to get one so I think he will. He just sold a Lamborghini Miura down in florida last month and has over 3 dozen sports cars...

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Sadly I'm in more of the SUV Market right now, although it's hard not to cross shop some high end sports cars with SUV Prices. Maybe split the difference with a Chevy SS or AMG C63? smile

A guy who goes cruising with us here in Green though has 2 Ford GTs and has filled out the application. He definitely has the cash to get one so I think he will. He just sold a Lamborghini Miura down in florida last month and has over 3 dozen sports cars...


I wanna know what he does and how he does it!


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You see that new Benz SUV? That's some serious power.

I still think the BMW X6 M looks better, though.

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I wanna know what he does and how he does it!


His dad sold a business he built and his dad and the son live off of that sizable nest egg by "investing" in cars smile

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You see that new Benz SUV? That's some serious power.

I still think the BMW X6 M looks better, though.


I want a Range Rover Sport, the wife wants an Escalade. We'll see who wins (hint, the wife) but I have a year to change her mind. I work from home now but I'm hiring people with the intent to run an Akron office, so I'll be back to doing the whole commuter thing before I know it smile


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i woke up this morning, looked at the beautiful sun rise, and then had a thought:

who the hell makes up the establishment?

i mean, everybody and their mama claims to be against the establishment, but since everybody claims to be against it, then somebody is lying their asses off.

if everybody claims they're enlightened and conscious, then in reality, none of them are.


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Trump is in town tonight.

Hartford, CT - The Connecticut Convention Center

We must have a primary coming-up.

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quote by swoosh above:

"who the hell makes up the establishment?"

You know who.

Some heavy hitters from Jersey.

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Originally Posted By: Swish
i woke up this morning, looked at the beautiful sun rise, and then had a thought:

who the hell makes up the establishment?

i mean, everybody and their mama claims to be against the establishment, but since everybody claims to be against it, then somebody is lying their asses off.

if everybody claims they're enlightened and conscious, then in reality, none of them are.


Who makes it up? Political lifers who control 90% of the power in the various branches of government.. and the power brokers who own them.

The second part of your post is more complicated. My belief is that people tend to think their own congressmen and senators are NOT the problem, it's everybody elses.. therefore most of them keep getting re-elected.

The second part is that most people fear the devil they don't know more than the devil they do know, so while they may dislike the incumbent, change scares them because the alternative may be worse...

Those are all just my opinions... the only thing I know for sure, I am NOT part of the "establishment".


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UH OH! Look out Hillary, HERE COMES BERNIE!

I think (fingers crossed) Bernie may not only win New York tomorrow, but it may be a very BIG win. The tide seems to be turning and he pulled within 6 points in the latest poll. Everytime he has done that he ended up winning.

Clinton struggled to get 1500 into a theater over the weekend to listen to her, while Bernie had several rallies in NY with tens of thousands showing up to each!

OMG, what if she doesn't win another state? What if he pulls this off? I know, just wishful thinking.

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Forget wishful thinking, you are Dreaming!

The Clinton Machine is fat with cash and connections world wide.
Resistance is Futile.

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Quote above by 40:

“Resistance is Futile”


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OC, you'll enjoy this:




its a really good interview.


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How can anyone not like this man. He is SO honest and humble.

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How can anyone not like this man. He is SO honest and humble.


I like him, but there's no way in hell I'd vote for him. I'm just hoping for a Sanders/Trump election, and that a carnival like that will be enough to get the powers that be to pull their heads out of their arses and deal with the real problems facing this country.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg


How can anyone not like this man. He is SO honest and humble.

I like him as a man, I just don't like many of his ideas. Now that he has said things I disagree with, I'm going to retreat to my safe zone and whimper for an hour, then make social media posts.


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Originally Posted By: OldColdDawg
UH OH! Look out Hillary, HERE COMES BERNIE!

I think (fingers crossed) Bernie may not only win New York tomorrow, but it may be a very BIG win. The tide seems to be turning and he pulled within 6 points in the latest poll. Everytime he has done that he ended up winning.



If he wins NY it is game on. If he loses it's most likely game over.

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Yeah, but what about all those 'super delegates'? Doesn't that pretty much make her a shoe in no matter what?


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Originally Posted By: MrTed
Yeah, but what about all those 'super delegates'? Doesn't that pretty much make her a shoe in no matter what?


Super delegates can swing and they often do to reflect the popular vote. If the momentum is moving towards Bernie they could opt to swing in his favor. Clinton's super delegates switched to Obama in 2008.

However, I suspect the Democratic establishment will want the nominee to be somebody who they feel can win the General. At the moment they probably feel Clinton can win more so than Sanders simply because she will appeal more to centrists. There may be some Republicans who dislike Trump and Cruz so much they are willing to swing Democratic if it were Hillary. Bernie being more left might scare them away.

It's going to be interesting and tomorrow may well be the decider. If Sanders loses NY would it be worthwhile for him to drop out and the party to focus on Clinton as the nominee? I just don't see him winning PA and if she wins NY and PA it has to be lights out.

I don't know...just thinking off the top of my head as I type....

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If Bernie wins New York it is definitely game on and probably spells the end of Hillary. Even if Bernie loses by less than 5 points he still technically has a path, but it will be very narrow. If he wins by 8 or more points, Hillary is in big trouble.

The numbers are pretty much in for everything after next tuesday and Bernie is going to crush her later.

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New York Primary today!

Oh Boy Oh Boy!

Will Trump cruise?
Will Hillary Bern?

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J\C.. Serious question for both the left and right. Sanders and Hillarys ads both contain the narrative of egual pay for women,so can anyone explain to me where that is happening and and why are the repubs responsible for it and if it is ,why hasn't it been addressed by this democratic administration already after 7 yrs

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I think it falls more in the area of I will say anything to get elected but don't really give a crap about the subject.

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a few things bro.

i think the numbers show that the woman do actually get paid less than men.


the problem is proving that companies do it purposely.

so while i doubt they can do anything about it as far as legislation, there's nothing wrong with voicing displeasure, or bringing to light the problem.

it's a movement, just like anything else.

for example, the majority of americans, through research, personal experience and such, now support legalizing pot. it's because the topic is constantly brought up, constantly talked about.

thats how it works. so getting equal pay for women needs to be constantly discussed so that we continue making progress on it.

i don't think republicans are responsible for why women don't get equal pay. personally, i could never blame them for something like that. however, i do wish they would bring it up more.

and i don't see anything wrong with that.


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Dem tensions flare as superdelegates flock to Clinton, even in states Sanders won

When Democrats caucused in Washington state last month, Bernie Sanders scored an overwhelming victory – winning 73 percent to Hillary Clinton’s 27 percent.

But that wide margin did nothing to sway the state’s superdelegates, party insiders and officials free to back whomever they choose. Of the 16 up for grabs, all nine who have announced their support have gone for Clinton.

All are elected leaders, including Gov. Jay Inslee. “I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton,” Inslee said. “I’ve worked with her for over 25 years, I know she’s tough, I know she can really be an effective leader.”

But the disconnect with the voters who put Inslee and other Democrats into office has sparked a backlash. The same tensions over superdelegates are flaring in states across the country. Sanders supporters want party insiders and elected leaders to follow their lead, and not – as it so often seems – act as a counterbalance to their vote.

“The danger in my mind, as a Democrat, is it makes our Democratic party look corrupt,” said David Spring, a leader of WashingtonforBernieSanders.com.

Over the last month, the Vermont Democratic socialist has won seven of eight nominating contests. That’s netted him two-thirds of the pledged delegates that were up for grabs in those states. But, among the superdelegates in those same states, Clinton leads 25-1.

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So New York kicked 126K democratic voters off the rolls just before they were supposed to vote? WTH? Fix is in....

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The fix was in before the race began.


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Bernie sucked at translating his message to all voters, and the party won't endorse someone who raises criticism of the people who run the show.

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The ONE thing I agree with Trump on - "Crooked Hillary".

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i guess it takes one to know one.

they're all crooked. at this point, we're just electing who's crookedness serves our ideology best.

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Resistance is Futile.

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Fox exit polls indicate TRUMP wins NY.

Kasich takes Second Place!

Cruz to finish in turd place.

Exit polls are too close to call for the Democrats.

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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Bernie sucked at translating his message to all voters,


I agree he isn't good at getting his message across. Plus, with all due respect to him he does say the same thing over and over. I think the last debate was difficult for him and Clinton won it hands down.

However, if the results in NY are close he will take a lot of momentum into the next primaries. I still can't see him winning PA.

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40 called it. Trump and Clinton crush it.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Fox exit polls indicate TRUMP wins NY.

Kasich takes Second Place!

Cruz to finish in turd place.

Exit polls are too close to call for the Democrats.


Fox just called it, CLINTON wins NY!

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Originally Posted By: EveDawg
40 called it. Trump and Clinton crush it.


Proof that even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then. thumbsup

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I agree he isn't good at getting his message across. Plus, with all due respect to him he does say the same thing over and over. I think the last debate was difficult for him and Clinton won it hands down.

However, if the results in NY are close he will take a lot of momentum into the next primaries. I still can't see him winning PA.

Maybe he is just fine with getting his message across and people just are not ready for socialism? I know a lot of Sanders followers (not just on this board) think everyone that doesn't like his message is a moron, but maybe it is just the people saying socialism is NOT what America is about.


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Originally Posted By: columbusdawg

people just are not ready for socialism?


Yet, they want Authoritarianism?

Hmmm....

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