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Over the years, we've had many discussions regarding social and political issues. Of the many topics that pop up on a regular basis, race finds itself here as much as any other. As you all may be able to tell from my posts, my 'life identity' is that of AA. Truth is, I'm this wild, eclectic mix of ingredients from all over the globe. I've mentioned more than once that my family reunions look like a meeting of the United Nations. I've shared that my relatives were some of the very first college educated Black Americans in our state. And I've described a family in which tolerance, acceptance, and diversity has been a family tradition for well over 200 years. In more than one conversation, I've also mentioned that I was adopted into this family before I even knew what life was... and that I've always felt blessed to be a member of it. I was 6 months old when God/fate/chance placed me with these people. They (and My Mom's) are the only family I've ever known. (It should be noted here, that My Mom's family history mirrors My Dad's- a history of integration, education and achievement, irrespective of ethnicity ). _______________ For me, all these foul news stories that routinely pop up: Ferguson, Charleston, NYC, Texas (the man dragged behind a pickup truck a few years back), etc. are symptoms of societal ills that only touch my life when I leave the safety and sanity of my own family. For us, between us- it's never, ever mattered... even during the heydays of Jim Crow. Our Family had it figured out a long time ago: what you share and create with another is more important that what you look like- or where you came from.Until my very first day of Kindergarten, I thought that everybody's families were like mine. Learning that I was wrong was extremely painful for a little kid who'd never known anything other than unconditional love his entire life. Then he got mad. As he got older, he started to harden. Then, His Family had to pull him back from his own hatred of everyone ...by reminding him what true acceptance felt like. It took 25+ years of living to finally make my peace with America's ugliest piece of history. That peace came when I finally realized that that Mainstream Society was just now starting to experience what My Family has always known, decades before the Civil War. I'm not mad at them any more. I now simply understand that I have a 200- year head start over 80% of America's families. I invite you to take a glimpse at a slice of My Family's legacy. It just might help you to figure out a little about this weird guy who posts alongside you here at Dawgtalkers. Clemdawg's Family Legacy isn't a major multinational corporation, a 'generational political dynaty', a real estate juggernaut or 'Titan of Finance.' Clem's family legacy is a community- and a social ideal. It's a story from today that was begun 43 years before the Civil War. It's a story about Americans. Thanks for your time.
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I was raised believing I was mostly German and Polish in heritage.
Then last year I took a genetic test which revealed otherwise. I am mostly Czech. I had fun sharing that with my Dad haha. Also, for grins and giggles it said I am 2.6 percent Neaderthal. Lol
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My Grandfather was British, and came from England to the US on a steamer ship when he was 14. He was an orphan, and he came to the US for work. Shows how much times have changed, huh? I also have some German and Swiss on my maternal Grandmother's side, with Bluchers and Roethlisbergers there. (no relation to the infamous QB though)
My father was adopted, but we do know that his birth mother was of Czech heredity. I am not sure about his birth father though.
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I was born and raised in Springfield, Ohio. It's very conservative and the family heritage there is similar to much of southwest Ohio; a mix of German, Irish and Scotch-Irish, as well as native American.
While growing up I don't remember anybody discussing heritage because most of the families had a long history of generations living in the area.
There were derogatory names for a number of nationalities, like polack jokes, and I remember my mom telling me her father was an "Irish drunk".
The n word was used freely and white guys started arming themselves during the civil rights era because they were afraid Springfield's south side was going going to march north to kill white people.
When my wife and and I came north we were quickly confronted with the question;
"where are you from?"
"Springfield"
"No, what country?"
"United States"
"No, what country is your family from?
"Ugh....Untied States"
"No! Before they came to the US!?"
"Oh.....which part of my family?"
"Never-mind!"
We heard about proud heritages and how one nationality was better than the others.
It took a while to understand.
It was rare for an African-American to put us through the same process because, like us, their generations were from the United States and if anything about origins were brought up it was usually about which state their family was from.
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Fantastic story, Clem. My last name is of French origin, but in researching our family tree, a distant relative found some shocking information. In the late 1600's, a young English boy was kidnapped by Indians from his home in Massachusetts. He was taken to Quebec and sold to a French military officer and given the sir name that we have today. All people in Canada and the US that have this name can be traced to this one individual....and back a few generations in England as well.
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My heritage is long gone and irrelevant to me.
All four of my grandparents came over on the boat in the early 1900s. From the Yugoslavian area. (though one set was Croatian and one set German)
All grandparents and both parents died in the 1960s and early 70s. I have not seen or talked to any aunts, uncles or cousins since the 1970s.
Not my first choice, but that's the way it goes. No big deal.
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My grandfather is Straight up Turkish. From a city called Adana.
My grandmother is Black.
and my mother is from puerto Rico.
So i'm all over the place.
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The furthest back I know of, family wise, goes to Switzerland. I think it was 6 or 7 generations ago. (I have a roughly 350 page family tree of my dad's family)
1798, from switzerland. Left Switzerland in 1833. Came over, with his family, in 1833 and settled here in N.W. Ohio sometime after, then moved to Gratiot County in Michigan some time after that.
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My people on both my mom's and biological father's side came to Canada from England in the 1700s. I'm not 100 per cent sure but I believe I have a bit of French Canadian and Native blood in me. I'm a mutt, really.
No biggie. *shrug*
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The paternal side of my family is from the Prussian area of what is now Germany. They came here in 1848 along with many other Germans in a large migration. They were invited by the US. The settled in Dayton, OH. The family eventually moved to Louisville, KY (Loo-a-vul, for those of you that can't properly speak English).
The maternal side of my family supposedly came over on the Mayflower, but I think my great grandfather purposely traced us there. That side is a mostly German/Welsh/English mix, with supposedly some Cherokee thrown into the mix. My Mom has been unable to find the Cherokee in her family tree research.
Oddly enough, my wife's adoptive parents and I share a family name about 4 generations back, but she's only loosely related to them. From what we've been able to find out, her mother was English, her dad was Welsh, and she was born in Ireland and raised in Scotland. She's been told she's linked to the Hepburn and Sinclair families of Scotland. She also has a connection to the MacKinnon line, who hold the recipe for Drambuie.
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Race, race, RACE you want to worry about RACE. Have you seen my latest times in the 40, or the 100? Hell even the 1600 meter why I ...... oh not that kind of race  ok *looking for a rock to crawl under* Part German, part American Indian, Part Irish, part mutt Since my grandfather was Half indian and half nobody knows what. hmmmm part German, Indian, and Irish I am starting to see why I like my booze.
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Parts of my family have been in the US since the beginning. Two of them came over on the Mayflower. If you ever read about the person that fell off the boat and nearly drowned, that's my relative, John Howland. For those of you in the Warren Area, his 5x grandson founded Howland Township. http://mayflowerhistory.com/howland/He married Elizabeth Tilley, whom also came over on the Mayflower. http://mayflowerhistory.com/tilley-elizabeth/================= John and Elizabeth Howland raised a large family with ten children, all of whom lived to adulthood and married. As a result, they likely have more descendants living today than any other Mayflower passengers. Some of their descendants include Franklin D. Roosevelt; both President Bush's; actors Alec and Stephen Baldwin, Humphrey Bogart, Christopher Lloyd; Mormon church founder Joseph Smith; poet Ralph Waldo Emerson; and Doctor Benjamin Spock. =========== Additionally, another part of my family came over after the Mayflower as an indentured servant at the age of 14 on the ship "William and Mary" (I believe was the name). He married a Native American, so yeah, that part has been around since who knows when, and no one has any records going back any further since on her, since, well, she was native american. However, that part of my family, which is where my surname comes from, can be traced back to the Alsace region of France (its really a German name and that region of france has switched hands many times). Additionally, I know I had ancestors in Great Britain (several of the countries there), France, Germany (before it became Germany) and a few other things here and there. My heritage by and large though, is English and German.
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We've always known that both my Dad and Mom's sides came from France and Germany but about two years ago we found out that my Dad's mom's (my paternal grandmother) mother's mother's (my paternal grandmother's maternal grandmother) family came to the US from Wales (the country not the animal :p) in the very early 1600's.
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We've always known that both my Dad and Mom's sides came from France and Germany but about two years ago we found out that my Dad's mom's (my paternal grandmother) mother's mother's (my paternal grandmother's maternal grandmother) family came to the US from Wales (the country not the animal :p) in the very early 1600's. Were they from Llanfairpwllgwyngyll?
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Do you mean Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch?
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What I know about my family heritage is from what I know about my immediate family. As an American, I believe we are all somewhat of a hodgepodge from differing heritage. I simply like to refer to myself as an American which basically means a mutt. lol
I know my family is mainly Scotch-Irish with some Cherokee and a little German thrown in for good measure.
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My family is from Germany where my great grandpappy fought for the Kaiser in WWI with honors. My Pappy was honored with the Waffen-SS distinguished service cross before fleeing to Argentina with my family after WWII. Dad fought in the Falklands for the Junta before we moved to America.
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My family is from Germany where my great grandpappy fought for the Kaiser in WWI with honors. My Pappy was honored with the Waffen-SS distinguished service cross before fleeing to Argentina with my family after WWII. Dad fought in the Falklands for the Junta before we moved to America.
lol and your twin brother is an Obama advisor.
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I am mostly Italian w/a bit of Hungarian. My early youth was in NY in an all-Italian neighborhood. We played on the streets all day and would walk into numerous houses throughout the day to eat and drink. It was like one big family. I have the Hungarian ties, but I absolutely loved the Italian side. They were so passionate. They either loved or hated everything. LOL. We ate, ate, ate and ate some more. Grandma would say...........Whas' the matter, you don't like my cooking?" after we refused the fifth dish of ravioli. Twenty people talking all at once. People laughing, crying, swearing, and eating all at the same time. I remember taking my teenage kids back to NY. They were raised in a suburb in Ohio, and they freaked out about how freaking crazy my NY relatives were. In a good way. Many of you probably remember Jimmy Valvano's speech at the ESPY's. He talked about what a good day was. What was it? You laugh. You cry. You think. He was a good Italian boy. I know exactly what he meant. I use one word........passion. It's passion for life. Freaking Italians rock. We are the most passionate people in the world. And that is why all the women love us. 
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You mean St. Mary's Church in a Dell of White Hazel Trees,near the Rapid Whirlpool,by the Red Cave of the Church of St. Tysilio. You forgot the hyphin (-) between the second and third of the four Ls together. My mom was Welsh,from Cardiff(Caerdydd),Wales and My dad was Polish-American,grandpa immigrated from Keilkow,Poland. His sir name had 3 enuciations depending upon whether Germany or Russia ruling influence,thank the cencus bureau for our present spelling of family name. Have some relatives in Buffalo area that still use Polish spelling,while here in Ytown some use both Polish and census change spelling. On Dad's side my grand pa married great uncle's sister(Grandama)and just mentioned great uncle married grandpa's sister(great aunt). Oh,Mom's family has ties to the pirate/English naval captain/politican Captian Morgan of the Rum distillery in Puerto Rico,wish I'd known that when I was partaking would have looked up other descenants from that ownership and asked to drink for free or potion of cost back since I contrbuted darn good to their share of their wealth.
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***BUMP*** A cool update: For the past 8 years, My Bunch have performed in Greenville, Oh (Darke Co.), which is quite a hike for a band that sits on the shore of Lake Erie. Until now, I never put 2+2 together: Longtown, the socially-progressive enclave of runaway slaves, European settlers, and First Nation citizens that was founded by my ancestor.... ... is just a 15-minute car ride away from our upcominng concert venue.BOOM. On May 14th, we're scheduled for an 8PM joint at the Darke Co. Arts complex. I plan to drive down early, and take a pilgrimage to a truly unique and special place in America's history... and soak up a taste of My Family's place in This American Life. The original homestead is still standing, and is a protected National Historic Register site. It consists of the original James Clemens residence, along with the large outbuilding that temporarily served as both the the town hall and community school. Just 1/2 mile away sits Bethel Long Wesleyan Church, which still has Sunday services for the descendants of the original Longtown residents. In several places nearby are the ruins of buildings that existed in this thriving pre- Civil War era community. I plan to hunt down as many as I can in a few hours of exploration. Who knows? Maybe it will lead to finding some long-lost relatives who can further strengthen my ties to my past ancestry. _________________ The establishment of a community that prided itself on ethnic diversity, active participation in the underground railroad, a drive to provide advanced education for 'negroes' (at a time when reading was still punishable in many places), and a sense of community spirit that held itself together from 1850 until after WWII is one helluva family legacy. I have much to live up to. I see that now. It's a 3-hour road trip (one-way) for My Bunch to do this gig. 3 hours on the road. One hour for dinner. 2-hour concert. 20 minute load-out. Another 3 hours back home. ("Oh, the glamorous life of a 'Classical Musician"...  ). It's one of the least-enjoyable gigs we do each year, simply because of the logistics and physical demands. The audience is always enthusiastic, the gigs are always well-played. Every gig has been a rousing success, and Darke Co. is a reliable revenue source... but still- it's a tough gig every time. And yet... this year, I can't wait for 'Greenville Day.' I'm gonna get there HOURS early... and tramp around on dirt that My Ancestors consecrated as a progressive haven for Americans who saw a better ideal for their country. I'll visit the nearby graveyard, and look upon the names of people who exemplified the ideals inscribed upon the base of the Statue Of Liberty... ...and I'll try to use these hours to help me find a deeper connection to My Family and the Nation (and times) in which they lived. Not a bad way to spend a day... wouldn't you say? Wish me well, My Dawgs. On pins & needles, Clemdawg.
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This is beyond cool. How freaking awesome!??!!
Take pics, post here man!
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nice portrait of my stand partner. (I'm the next guy in the section...) 
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and soak up a taste of My Family's place in This American Life.
The original homestead is still standing, and is a protected National Historic Register site. It consists of the original James Clemens residence, along with the large outbuilding that temporarily served as both the the town hall and community school. Now, I must say, THAT is pretty cool!!!
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nice portrait of my stand partner. (I'm the next guy in the section...) You sit next to Willis? What you talkin' 'bout, that's cool!
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So am I, Eve. My grandparents migrated to Powhatan Point, Oh. from Czechoslovakia. My mother started school without speaking English.
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*BUMP* As some of you may know, I found a major piece of My Family's American legacy a short while ago. I was scheduled to tour My Family's historic grounds before I played a concert 3 hours away from my home. All the necessary pieces were put into place. Tragically, my Father In-Law died on the very weekend that I was to tour the site. I called Roane with my regrets- and thanks for all his efforts to set up a tour, and promised that I would stay in touch. (The needs of the immediate family take precedence over academic pursuits, you know?) I was doubly injured that weekend: I lost a dear friend, mentor, and family member, while also losing out on a chance to re-connect with my family's past. (Imagine.... a personal tour of the house that was home to one's ancestor from the early 1800's- a home that became the center of a pre-Civil War era community that was a a full 1.5 century ahead of its time. A home that was an essential way-station on the Underground Railroad.) Well... that was the bad news for that week. I was double-slammed in the course of just 3 days. My life totally changed in those 72 hours. If ever there was a Dawg who needed some small victory in his life, I suppose that perhaps at this time- I might just have been that Dawg. ______________________ And then... right on cue, this shows up in my facebook feed: Grant to restore the Clemens historical farmsteadNEWS, TOP STORIES By Rachel Lloyd - rlloyd@dailyadvocate.com A $90,000 grant from the state will provide the funding to complete renovations of the James and Sophia Clemens Farmstead, so the site can be opened to the public as a museum and tourist site. The farmstead is listed on the National Register of Historic Places. GREENVILLE — Thanks to a state grant from the Ohio Facilities Construction Commission, the restoration project by the Union Literary Institute Preservation Society of the James and Sophia Clemens historical farmstead will now be able to be completed. The grant to restore the property and establish a museum there totals $90,000. The site, located at 467 Stingley Road, Palestine, was named on the National Register of Historic Places in 2001 as a significant historical site relating to black heritage and the Underground Railroad. The Clemens farmstead is one of the few remaining structures of the historic village of Longtown, also known as the Greenville Negro Settlement. James Clemens founded the settlement, and the house currently under restoration is believed to have been built between 1822 and 1857. Clemens donated the land for the Wesleyan Church and established a cemetery for the community. Clemens was the first free black man to purchase land in German Township. Longtown was a stop on the Underground Railroad. The settlement was also years ahead of its time as a fully racially integrated community. According to W. E. B. Dubois, Longtown became a haven for interracial couples, and it was one of only two communities in Ohio to be considered tri-racial: with residents of European, African-American and Native American ancestry. James and Sophia Clemens came from Rockingham County, Virginia, to settle in Darke County in 1818, where they soon became prosperous farmers. Their success encouraged other former slaves to migrate to the area, where the community of Longtown was founded. The settlement became a center for the Underground Railroad, a key site on the journey for escaped slaves seeking their freedom. The community, which extended over the Indiana border, also became home to a Quaker school, called the Union Literary Institute. Escaped slaves would often stay in the community for a time, attending school there, before continuing on to Canada. The height of Longtown’s population was around 900 people in the 1940s. Many descendants live in the Muncie, Richmond, Indianapolis and Dayton areas. One of those descendants, Roane D. Smothers, of Dayton, spearheaded the effort to get the Clemens homestead named to the National Register of Historic Places. Smothers is vice president of the Union Literary Institute Preservation Society. He is descended from Longtown’s Bass family. The planned renovations will restore the dwelling to a safe and habitable status, from the tin roof to the concrete footings. Work scheduled for 2016 includes establishment of electric service; repair and reconstruction of doors and window fixtures; gutters and downspouts; and exterior painting. The estimated total cost of renovations is nearly $111,000, so the $90,000 grant will go a long way toward getting that work completed. The four-acre site includes a two-story brick I-House with Greek Revival details and a mid-19th-Century English barn. The renovations will include multiple exhibit areas within the house, office space for the museum and public restroom installation. Only five houses, three schools and one church remain of the original Longtown settlement that extended over nearly 4,000 acres in total. Reach the writer at 937-569-4354 or on Twitter @RachelLloydGDA. Join the conversation at Facebook.com/Advocate360 or visit our website at www.dailyadvocate.com I have a direct line to Roane now. I hope to parlay that connection into direct participation on my part. I plan to take the drive (a few times) this Summer- and help out with the site's restoration. I can think of no better way to honor My Family than to swing a hammer, draw a saw, or even sweep out the floor of a barn, as we raise this site to museum status. As unworthy as I feel, I'm unbelievably proud to be a small piece of such an American legacy. I truly was (even by adoption) descended from Elite Stock. I'm actually happy tonight.... after a prolonged period of sadness and despair. Life provides balance- if we've trained ourselves to see it. MY FAMILY did this incredible thing... and they've made me what I am today: A Free-thinking American. By Blood. By Law. By intellect. By ideal. By hard work. My Family helped to make America what it is today... a place where someone like Clemdawg has an actual voice. As such, I'll do whatever I can to tell Our American Story- through my own eyes... ...because that's what it truly means to be: An American. .02.
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Words fail to express my appreciation for your wonderful story, Clem. Thanks so much for sharing...
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German (surname) from Alsace-Lorraine (the reason my sister insist on us being part French, but the name is German) and Irish (Isle of Man) on my fathers side.
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I am a pure mutt. My father was descended from Swedish royalty and is 100% Swedish. On my mother's side there is a mix of native american, German, and Irish that go back almost 200 years filled with a strong military heritage with the most famous two being General Bull and Sergeant York(They made a movie about him). For all that I just look like a pure blooded viking beard and all =)
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James and Sophia Clemens came from Rockingham County, Virginia, to settle in Darke County in 1818, where they soon became prosperous farmers. Their success encouraged other former slaves to migrate to the area, where the community of Longtown was founded.
Clem,
this is really an awesome "win" for you... I'm really happy for you and your family.
I have a question about the highlighted quote. Do you know the circumstances of how James and Sophia gained their freedom? I guess I could assume that they escaped but I would think that it would have read "James and Sophia Clemens escaped from Rockingham County, VA, especially given the context of the rest of the article and it's conversing about escaped slaves.
Also, I've always been under the impression that just escaping to a Free State wasn't always enough, that there were no prohibitions that kept southern bounty hunters from finding and taking them back. I may be mistaken on this point?
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I'm mixed race, but in black when I get pulled over.
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j/c On 9/24/2016, The Smithsonian in Washington DC will open the doors to its newest addition: the National Museum of African American History and Culture. It represents the last structure to be built on the National Mall. I post this thread-bump not only to celebrate a neglected piece of our nation's history, but also to give credit to the spirit of scholarship that made such an undertaking possible. The first initiatives to provide the public with such a facility happened in the 2nd decade of the 20th C, around 1915. The initiative found its resurgence during the Reagan years, found its footing during the GW Bush years, and ground was broken with POTUS 44 in attendance. Doors open this month. Take a brief virtual tour at The Smithsonian's own site here. So... why am I dropping this post in EE? To tell all My Dawgs that My Family's historic town/settlement, Longtown, Ohio will have a permanent display in this museum. It's a ghost town now, with only a handful of buildings remaining, but it was a thriving enclave of racial diversity, harmony, and progressive ideals from 1833 until post WWII. Founded by James and Sophia Clemens, it was a town where Blacks, Whites and First Nation citizens lived in cooperation and harmony. It boasted one of the first trade schools in America, sent many of its young people off to colleges like Wilberforce U, and educated males and females equally. America was in danger of losing this inspirational story when the town died, but thoughtful Americans fought to preserve its legacy through historical records, scholarship, due diligence, and a spirit that would not let this important piece of American History be lost to the ravages of time. My Family is going to live on at The Smithsonian, Dawgs! 
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That's awesome, Clem. I really enjoyed reading your post about Longtown. It's a fascinating story.
And into the forest I go, to lose my mind and find my soul.
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My father was born in Hungary (Budapest) so on that side of the family I am a first generation American.
My mother's family has English, Scottish, Welsh and Dutch. And some Blackfoot Native American. They have been here since before the Revolutionary War.
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