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On Jack's injury:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jaso...lown-disgusting

Interview with Jack:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/04/19/myles-jack-nfl-draft-ucla-career-highlights

It's all about the Doctors IMO. I think he has all the makings of a freak linebacker.

Dont think he gets past Jacksonville..

Oof.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...erns-about-knee

Could see him falling to the 2nd.

The article says that there is a team late in the first round that will take him if he falls.

Either way this is horrible news. Jack is a transcendent talent and it would really stink to see his career derailed by injuries.

It pains me to say that we should not consider him with our first round pick (even if we trade down). We need guys who can contribute for the long term.

If Baltimore drafts him, he'll stud out for the next 10 years. If we draft him, he'll blow that knee again in TC.

Well, and don't think I'm trying to be rude, but that rules him out of the first round for my hopes of taking him (I liked the hope of another trade down and still picking him up in the first). We just cannot afford to take risks right now. Simple as that IMO.

Jack was one of my guys, but now I would pass. I heard this same thing about Da’Quan Bowers a couple of years ago and he has never been any good.

The Jack/Goff train just is dead.

Unless you're a team doctor, I wouldn't pass on anything. Teams will try to throw out any sort of BS they can to get a guy to drop. If and only if our team doctors see something wrong, then you let him slip.

If he is there at 8, i want him!!

There was a point in time, not so very long ago, that both Jack and Smith were top 5 prospects and the discussion was which was the better option. Now it seems like both are high risk injury options. Sad, I really liked them both.

If that's the general feeling on him, and if he's that good of a ILB, then he HAS to be our pick.

Well, I thought the same thing when I got a girlfriend ... but that hasn't been the case

LMAO. Thanks

Completely disagree.

I thought he was a guy who should probably go in the teens to begin with. Yeah, I know I am in the minority, but he is going to be an ILBer in a 3-4 or a Will in a 4-3. He is best suited to play the WLBer position. That is far from an impact position.

He'll be good, but never a game changer. The injury concern removes him from any consideration on my first round board.

You know me, I've never been one to evaluate talent. I just don't know enough of what to look for. That said, this year I've I've read more and watched more video that I ever have.

I only watched one video on Jack. It was a complete game. I don't remember which one. It was the kind of video that showed a box around the player before each snap.

Jack was always, always around the ball, but he wasn't making tackles. He did look good in coverage, very good really. But I expected to see a play or two of a highlight category but there wasn't any. And like I already said, we was always around the ball but not making tackles. I was very underwhelmed with him.

It's not fair that I only watched one game considering all the positive reports I read, but in that one game I saw nothing I'd want to draft high. He was fast, he has instincts, he covered well, but he wasn't really making plays.

So he really is the next Ray Lewis.

Well played

Totally agree. Jack's a potential disaster waiting to happen.

We cannot and should not consider anyone with any hint of a questionable medical or off the field issues.

Off my board.

Yeah, I think he is a very good player. He actually reminds me of Anthony Barr, another Bruin LBer who Minni picked a couple of years ago. I think they got him at 18? Not sure about that, but right around there.

The teens is where I thought Jack should go. But now, the concerns about his knee.........I don't know.

110% agree. Our roster doesn't give us the luxury of being able to take a gamble on those medical and or character concerned kids.

Jack was one of my guys, but after the likes of Trent Richardson and Montario Hardesty…….I cannot take knee issues lightly. I’d rather take Noah Spence at this point.

Isn't Noah Sprence off field concerns just as bad after players like Gordon and Manziel? An argument could be made to stay away from them more then the guy with a possible bum knee.

It is and you're right that argument would be a valid one.


On the other hand, he has been clean for a year and sent drug tests on his own to all 32 teams. For every Josh Gordon there is a Tyranne Matheaui

An even better argument to be made is to stay away from both.

Can’t pass on all the blue chip prospects, you’ll end up without playmakers, like we’ve seen with previous trade downs (Phil Taylor).


They are both boom/bust guys for sure.

He just needs to learn to jump on the pile after the play, do a loud scream/dance afterwards, and get ESPN to fall in love with him, and we'll have the next super-star.

I believe Barr was taken by the Vikings at 9 after we traded up 1 spot with the Vikings to draft the wonderful Gilbert at 8.

Regardless of where you stand on injury issues, or charachter issues, you are 100% right. at some point you have to take a chance on real playmakers.

1:1 ratio huh? I disagree on that. But I wouldn't be mad if we drafted the guy.

Why not draft a playmaker who is healthy and has no character concerns?

What if there is not one available without reaching?

Pass

I just checked. You are right. Thanks for the correction.

Whom do you have in mind?
Tunsil? - I would be fine with him, but he will be gone before 8.
Ramsey?- Again I would love to have him, but he will be gone as well.
Elliott?- I don't think we need to reach for a RB who is good, but is a at a position that isn't as highly valued. Next year there are 2 backs that will be eligible for the draft who are better then Elliott.

To me Jack is the only playmaker who is feasible to fall to us at 8. If you have anyone else you think, let us know.