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i was just telling my friend yesterday that if we do any more trading i hope we get the extra picks for next year.
if we had 100 xtra picks this year would they really be on the final roster anyway?

I hate to tell you guys this, but if his medical was clear, he wouldn't still be on the board.

Man being able to get Noah Spence right here, I would have never thought it was possible.

Jack is off my board and he was one of my guys. Hearing him say he might need micro fracture surgery. Feel bad for the kid, but I'm gonna pass.

The question still remains who do we take? We do have to actually select some players at some point..... Everyone is wheeling and dealing pick #32 So who do you want to GET for all of this? That is basically a first rounder. I would want a LOT for that pick. I mean a whole lot. If the Jets called and offered Wilkerson then I might be interested..... Now that I could abide. He's young and he's very good. He'd fit our scheme very nicely. We have the cap room to sign him to a deal. Either that or I want a first next year.

Give me the best available offensive linemen who's projected to be able to play at RT.

Please, and thank you.

Give me the best available offensive linemen who's projected to be able to play at RT.

Please, and thank you.

i agree that all of the top picks will/should be here but not necessarily the lower picks. and the more we keep trading the lower the picks will be.
i know they know what they're doing LOL i'm just trying to understand.

After thinking it over, my top choice would be Robinson DT Alabama
Thick run stopper who can get some pressure on the Qb.

I would consider a trade down depending on the offer.

Just so I'm clear with this, we have the worst D for the last two yrs. & there is all kinds of top quality D prospects on the board & you want the 6-7 rated R tackle with the our pick?

We can't stop the run, we have no pass rush & our DB's are getting gashed & you want a RT with our 2nd. OK

How Ray of you. We will get a T, but not in this round 2 situation. With the quality of the defensive prospects left on the board, I be very disappointed if we didn't get a prospect that would make a real difference on defense.

Haha @ "how Ray of you".

We lost two high caliber offensive linemen, obviously we have holes to fill. Obviously we have holes to fill across the board. Would you rather we let people run on our defense, or let people get clean hits on the qb? It usually has been the case the offense goes 3and out and the defense is gassed by halftime for the general part so.

With all that said, if they pick someone like Ashawn Robinson, it's not like I'll be bitter or upset. Just prefer to address a bigger weakness imo, oline protection.

After a night of sleeping on it. . .

I am back on the Jack wagon!

(I think we will trade down though and that is the right decision.)

It has been clear ever since free agency that the Browns are hellbent on acquiring as many draft picks as possible to rebuild their tattered roster, and they got off to a good start when they traded the second overall pick to Philadelphia for a bevy of selections. Now, another facet of their strategy is becoming clear: They're trying to exploit the league's conservativeness in devaluing future picks to extract better picks from teams in the future.

As I wrote about in discussing a Browns-Titans trade possibility for this pick before the draft, the common estimate for future picks is to treat them as one round worse than their listed value for each year you have to wait to use them; in other words, this 2017 second-round pick the Browns acquired would be considered as if it were a third-round pick by most NFL teams.

That's not an accurate measure. A second-round pick is a second-round pick. Draft picks in the future are treated as if they're less valuable because the general manager trading the picks may not be around to actually use them, which represents part of the moral hazard incumbent with turning over your personnel department to employees who typically last a few years on the job. Future picks then realistically mean different things to different organizations. Les Snead and Jeff Fisher are probably going to get fired unless the Rams make the playoffs in 2016, which no doubt made it easier for them to trade future picks to move up to the first overall slot. Bill Belichick and Ozzie Newsome aren't going anywhere unless they want to move on, which is why they can trade for future picks with impunity.

All of this is to say that the new Browns braintrust -- Hue Jackson, Sashi Brown and former Los Angeles Dodgers general manager Paul DePodesta -- likely feels very confident that Cleveland won't be tearing things up very soon. The Browns are stockpiling picks for the future and getting bigger returns because of it. Tennessee probably would have preferred to deal one of their four picks between 33 and 64 to move up from 15 to eight; indeed, had they packaged the 15th and 48th picks, it would have represented 1,470 points of trade value on the traditional chart, right in line with the eighth overall pick, which is worth 1,400 points. Most teams in the league would have gone for that swap.

Instead, the Browns will wait a year and pick up a second-rounder in next year's draft for their troubles. The conservative way to value that pick would be to treat it like an "average" selection, which would be, coincidentally, the 48th pick. Reduce that pick and realize that by deferring their primary compensation for a year, the Browns were able to improve their sixth-round pick by 100 slots, moving up from 176 to 76. That's a pick with 10 times the value of the one the Browns traded on the traditional chart. Ten times!

Their 2017 draft is shaping up to be a mammoth endeavor. Keep in mind that the Browns now have two first-rounders (their own and one from Philadelphia), two second-rounders (their own and Tennessee's), and as many as four fourth-round picks (their own and up to three compensatory fourth-round picks from losing free agents this offseason). After accounting for the fifth-rounder they sent Philly next year as part of the deal, a reasonable estimate is that those extra picks they've acquired are worth 34 points on the Stuart chart; that's right in line with the first overall pick, which is worth 34 points on its own. Plus, the Browns still have their picks (minus fifth- and seventh-rounders) in 2017, and it's not as if they're going to be good next year.

Cleveland could have as much draft capital in 2017 as any team has had in any one draft in recent memory. The Browns still have to hit on those picks, but they're putting themselves in an enviable position in terms of draft capital. (They'll also have an extra second-round pick from the Eagles to work with in 2018.) And they still managed to come out of the first round with Corey Coleman, a player at their biggest position of need, wide receiver.

Bill Barnwell saying what I've been saying all off-season:



http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15425540/a-look-won-draft-trading-game-first-night-nfl-draft

I eventually had to agree to disagree with on of my Steeler buddies. He is of the mindset that the value IS diminished when it's delayed. Maybe, but only if your team is trying to win a championship IMO.

Except the Patriots, Ravens, and Seahawks also always trade for future picks.

Except the Patriots, Ravens, and Seahawks also always trade for future picks.

The #Cowboys are attempting to trade up with the #Browns at No. 32, source said. The likely target is a pass-rusher.

I eventually had to agree to disagree with on of my Steeler buddies. He is of the mindset that the value IS diminished when it's delayed. Maybe, but only if your team is trying to win a championship IMO.

It is devalued for a coach but not for the team if that makes sense. You dont fix areas of need immediately then u get Chud fired.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/726082513114943488

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/726082513114943488

We would only be giving up two selections ... What would it take in compensation?