Kessler is a very smart QB, I'm just not sure he has the arm talent needed... Which is weird because that was the first thing Hue said he wants in a QB.
I think they may have gotten too cute with this trade down and missed out on their real target.
I watched erratic Kessler a few times...as he'd have a dynamite game...then just be horrid the following week...what a waste of a pick...I thought he'd go 6th round at earliest...makes zero sense to me
Why not take Jerell Adams or Billings at least they have the ability to contribute and possibly be starters in a year or two, Kessler will be out of the NFL in 3 years or less.
If we are obtaining picks for a gem QB next year...why take a high pick on Kessler? analytics will prolly point saying we will save $1.60 mill releasing Austin Davis....Some people will try to defend this pick...I've watched him play and he is Matt Barkley 2.0...a #3 QB at best...when we could have gotten a starter at numerous other positions
Why not take Jerell Adams or Billings at least they have the ability to contribute and possibly be starters in a year or two, Kessler will be out of the NFL in 3 years or less.
Adams is a very athletic TE and we could go with two TE sets with Barnidge and Adams. We need playmakers, instead of trading the pick why not take Hooper at TE instead he went 4 pick after the 77 pick I think. You have 12 or 13 picks stop trading down and take BPA.
However, this was almost a 4th round pick, and it is someone who Hue Jackson likes, and I am OK with the rest of the draft so far ..... so, in finishing up this long run on sentence, I guess I am OK with giving Hue the QB he wanted, even if I think it was a poor value pick.
Who knows? Maybe he becomes our Kirk Cousins. I certainly never saw him becoming anything more than a backup.
I still think that we could have taken him deeper in the draft.
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Thanks, just didn't see any of Kessler.. He seems more of the shorter throw QB. That made me wonder how he could contribute to getting the ball down field for Coleman to run under.
Adams is a very athletic TE and we could go with two TE sets with Barnidge and Adams. We need playmakers, instead of trading the pick why not take Hooper at TE instead he went 4 pick after the 77 pick I think. You have 12 or 13 picks stop trading down and take BPA.
I agree our weapon arsenal is still pretty bare we have Corey Coleman and some scrubs...potentially Duke as a weapon... But could have created a weapon in Jerrel Adams...heck even split him wide for a fade...considering behind Barnidge we have noone...
Thanks, just didn't see any of Kessler.. He seems more of the shorter throw QB. That made me wonder how he could contribute to getting the ball down field for Coleman to run under.
Hitting Coleman in stride 15 yards downfield and having him go 65 yards for a TD is an ok scenario also
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I also hated when we traded down in round 3...could have had a CB to fill in, a FS or SS to fill in...added another WR to contribute, a TE to play behind Barnidge, an ILB, and OLB, a C to backup Erving...but we had to take a #3 or #4 QB
I know this isn't what we're doing, but if we are going to trade, I'd like for us to be looking to trade back into rounds at this point, and burn off some of those later round picks. I don't like trading back at this point.
IMO, the second, third, and fourth rounds are where you can really do some damage. I pointed out earlier about the Titans. When the dust settled, they picked 3 times in the top half of the second round. Clustering picks there, to me, is a phenomenal strategy (keep in mind, I don't know what the net was in terms of pick value that they gained/lost in order for them to pick at those spots). All I'm saying is that we're at the back end of what I consider the sweet spot of the draft. Draft value chart at this point in the draft makes it easier to trade up vs the first and even the second round, and there is still talent available. We should be maximizing our swings during rounds 2-4.
Plus, trading down probably only nets us 5th round and later picks.
I dunno.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
I know this isn't what we're doing, but if we are going to trade, I'd like for us to be looking to trade back into rounds at this point, and burn off some of those later round picks. I don't like trading back at this point.
IMO, the second, third, and fourth rounds are where you can really do some damage. I pointed out earlier about the Titans. When the dust settled, they picked 3 times in the top half of the second round. Clustering picks there, to me, is a phenomenal strategy (keep in mind, I don't know what the net was in terms of pick value that they gained/lost in order for them to pick at those spots). All I'm saying is that we're at the back end of what I consider the sweet spot of the draft. Draft value chart at this point in the draft makes it easier to trade up vs the first and even the second round, and there is still talent available. We should be maximizing our swings during rounds 2-4.
Plus, trading down probably only nets us 5th round and later picks.
I dunno.
I agree...alot of great talent in round 4...I will plug away and trade our later round picks to remain close to this talent...Walk away with Jerrel Adams, Kentrell Brothers, Jordan Howard, Jalen Mills, Jack Allen, and a SS and wrap it up...plus we already have our 6th rounder in Kessler
Great jacoby brissett will learn under brady and be the next franchise qb. 2 picks before ours. Just watch
Because all the other Patriot backup QBs have turned out to be great. . .
Considering Tom Brady was also one of the other Patriot backup quarterbacks actually yes, yes they are easily the QB factory compared to any other team.
"The guy has had a tremendous career,'' said Jackson, defending what seemed liked a questionable pick. "I understand where everyone's coming from. But Cody Kessler is the guy for us.''
Kessler (6-1, 215) started all 14 games in 2015, passing for 3,536 yards with 29 touchdowns and seven interceptions. But it was Kessler's accuracy that captured Jackson's attention.
"Accuracy (is what I'm looking for),'' said Jackson. "He has pinpoint accuracy. He can throw the ball straight to the guy he's throwing it to, and if you can't, you can't play in the NFL.''
Jackson also cited Kessler' touchdown-to-interception ratio of 88-19 and his experience in a pro-style offense.
"He's everything you look for in a quarterback,'' said Jackson. "We're bringing him in for a reason -- because he has the characteristics we're looking for. Let's give him an opportunity to compete. Hopefully he'll ascend up the ladder.''
Dane Brugler of CBS Sports ranked Kessler (6-1, 215) No. 17 among quarterbacks and projected him as a priority free agent.
Brugler wrote in his draft guide, "a three-year starter in USC's pro-style scheme, Kessler was an ideal fit for the Trojans' offense due to his understanding of timing and tempo, posting impressive production each season – was the west coast version of Aaron Murray in college.
"There is a lot to like about his football intelligence and make-up, doing an excellent job taking what the defense gives him, but panics and struggles to anticipate without a clean pocket.
"A highly productive college quarterback, Kessler has a low NFL ceiling due to his lack of physical traits, lacking the necessary arm strength to put the ball where he wants on a consistent basis – might be able to stick as a back-up similar to Murray or Chase Daniel, but won't elevate players around him.''
Kessler said he tried to ignore the mock drafts and the predictions about where he'd be drafted. One scout told draft expert Nolan Nawrocki that Kessler "can be a solid backup because he's smart.''
But Kessler knows how Jackson feels about him.
"I flew to Cleveland in March and I knew it was one of the teams I had a connection with,'' Kessler said.
He said he's used to playing the underdog role. Pegged as a backup at USC, he took it personally and ended up winning the starting job as a sophomore.
"Whether I'm backup or get a chance to compete right away, I'm going to give it 100%,'' he said.
Kessler stressed that he had five coaching changes in his three years at USC, which contributed his dropoff in production from 2014 to 2015.
"I don't know if it's a good thing, but I got use to it,'' he said.
Kessler said he's always had to work for everything he's gotten.
"I do believe I can play in this league,'' he said on a conference call.
Cody could end up being a real gem as a back up. He is very accurate in passes under 25 yards. I mean like extremely accurate. Anything beyond that though and it gets bad real fast. Still he can do great in a WCO system where you stretch it wide versus vertical.
That being said we could have easily got in in the 4th or 5th round so to me it's a wasted pick.
Get him in the gym. Add some muscle to the kid and try to pump up his arm strength. Maybe improving his mechanics and footwork will abate some of that lack of strength. Still, a very strange pick. Hue Jackson has up to this point liked to go downfield. A QB with a very good arm would seem a requisite for this offense....
If Kessler is a solid backup we are golden. Veteran backup QBs make a pretty good amount of money. If we get four cheap years out of Kessler that is great value. If he becomes more, even better.
Kessler's ceiling is not all that high. At his best he is Teddy Bridgewater. But his floor is pretty high as well. I can't see him being any worse than Chase Daniel (a steady backup who has floated around the league for years).
If Kessler is a solid backup we are golden. Veteran backup QBs make a pretty good amount of money. If we get four cheap years out of Kessler that is great value. If he becomes more, even better.
Kessler's ceiling is not all that high. At his best he is Teddy Bridgewater. But his ceiling is pretty high as well. I can't see him being any worse than Chase Daniel (a steady backup who has floated around the league for years).
Make up your mind. Where's his ceiling?
He looked like Weeden under pressure in the Washington game this season. Hopefully, he'll get better with some time in the same system. I do get the impression he'll be a backup who keeps competing.
You mess with the "Bull," you get the horns. Fiercely Independent.
Watching the press conference, Hue seemed really excited to have Kessler. As much as I wanted other players at 93 and wanted to bring in Hogan as QB - if Hue is that happy about bringing him in, I'll hold off on judgement for a few years on the pick.
If Kessler is a solid backup we are golden. Veteran backup QBs make a pretty good amount of money. If we get four cheap years out of Kessler that is great value. If he becomes more, even better.
Kessler's ceiling is not all that high. At his best he is Teddy Bridgewater. But his ceiling is pretty high as well. I can't see him being any worse than Chase Daniel (a steady backup who has floated around the league for years).
Make up your mind. Where's his ceiling?
He looked like Weeden under pressure in the Washington game this season. Hopefully, he'll get better with some time in the same system. I do get the impression he'll be a backup who keeps competing.
Sorry, I meant floor when comparing to Daniels. My bad.
He does panic under pressure at times, but he also has functional knowledge of how an offense should work. That should help him minimize some mistakes. Weeden panicked and then ended up backhand flipping balls to the opposing team.
Watching the press conference, Hue seemed really excited to have Kessler. As much as I wanted other players at 93 and wanted to bring in Hogan as QB - if Hue is that happy about bringing him in, I'll hold off on judgement for a few years on the pick.
Kessler is Hogan without all the work to refine the delivery. Both are probably backups. One you have to work with a ton, the other comes in and can play day one if you need him.
It looked like he wanted to pull a Flipper in one of his gametapes. Luckily he has huge hands and thought better of it. I'l reserve judgement on him. I have heard some good things, and he's dealt with near Browns level dysfunction already a USC
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It looked like he wanted to pull a Flipper in one of his gametapes. Luckily he has huge hands and thought better of it. I'l reserve judgement on him. I have heard some good things, and he's dealt with near Browns level dysfunction already a USC
I would say that the dysfunction at USC over the past several years has exceeded USC.
Remember how Manziel showed up intoxicated to practice? USC's head coach did that (more than once).
He also does have huge (10 7/8") hands, so he should be able to handle winter ball. (and since everyone was so worried about this over the past few years)
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He also does have huge (10 7/8") hands, so he should be able to handle winter ball. (and since everyone was so worried about this over the past few years)
Nooo... He can't handle the winter ball, he's from Bakersfield.
I'm thinking, 5 coaches in 3 years, this guy was made for Cleveland football.
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