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It's subjective, but probably not "highly" subjective. I just don't get why some of you act like people shouldn't talk about it. Sheesh......it's a football message board. Talking about football is why we are here. Furthermore, I don't see posters complaining about these reports when the Browns get a good grade.

It's discussion. It's fun. I don't get all this complaining about "subjective" talk. Well, I do get it and that is why I spoke up.

Is that true? I thought that in addition to Cook, that Prescott, Hogan, and Cardale were all still on the board. Is that wrong?

Article about potential 'sleepers' - Browns get 2 on the list. General feedback.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/20...2016-nfl-draft/

#1, #2, #6, & #10 would have been drafted by us using my board . We drafted #4 and #7 on this list IRL.

On the Who Do You Want in the Fourth Round thread, I listed

Kalen Reed, Michael Thomas, and Rashard Higgens as guys who interested me.

LOL.............I don't think any of them went in the 4th.

I think it's hard to grade this draft because we haven't seen what our schemes are going to look like. Fit can be almost as important as talent. I do think Hue is good at adjusting his playcalling to maximize talent on offense. I'm not sure about Horton. We did seem to draft big guys who can run (outside of Scooby) and a couple of little guys who can hit on Defense.

Kessler is definitely a wild card. If he hits, great. This could be an all time great draft class. If not, we've wasted higher picks on QBs before. Weeden, Quinn, Manziel, yikes. I actually like the fact that fans aren't excited about him. Maybe he'll get some time before fans start clamoring for him.

I'm all for discussion and dialogue, brother.

Just for the record, I don't hang my hat on A grades or F grades (nor any in between). I am highly skeptical about many of the "journalists", especially when it comes to the Browns. I do like to read local perspectives because they are the only team they write about and the local journo knows them inside and out. Also, they aren't writing for "click bait"- embellishment headlines just to get somebody, somewhere to click on. I find somebody like Pluto is pretty honest. He praises and criticizes where ever he sees appropriate. Sure, he is biased as he is a fan but, he knows and understands the team and is writing from a genuine perspective. A lot of national journos just criticize because we are an easy team to bully and they are trying to be cute.

I think over reaching for a position is bad.. if you have 7 picks, but when you have 14 picks.. and 3 in the third round.. you can afford a reach pick with your third 3rd round pick. I do not expect much better than 4 - 6 wins this coming year, but I expect to see the results of solidifying the positions, especially WR. Rookies make rookie mistakes, but if promise is shown as the season progresses, I will be happy with what we are doing.

I'll list my thoughts. While I love the game I do not study college football to the depth that some of you do. I will first say that I find a lot of these posts informative and interesting and I appreciate the insight. clevesteve, Vers, ed, dep ... just to name a few off the top of my head. There are many, many others.

I liked the trade down in the 1st, I get the C Coleman ick. Went with WR at 15, can't complain. Able to trade down and get their pick of WR, that's good stuff. With Ramsey and Bosa gone, a trade down was fine w me. Went with a burner. No complaints.

In the 2nd I was pulling for Spence. I get why it didn't happen. With Manziel, Gordon, Armonty Bryant and (to a lesser degree) Haden, I can see not wanting to touch anyone w a substance issue in their past. Sure, Spence reportedly clean for a while. But can you imagine what it would be like if we did draft him and this summer he gets pulled over on a DUI and he had a dime bag or something in the car? It would be about how this team never learns. So, I get passing on Spence. Seems like we made a decent pick in the 2nd. Nassib seems a good pick as well.

Right off the bat we address WR and pass rush. OK.

So we trade down, again. OK, whatever.

Personally looking for Braxton or Cardale with the next two picks. Yeah, a little OSU homer there.

We did not go with Miller, who would have been a project at WR. I get it. Disappointed, but glad he did not go to Pitt or Cincy. I guess we had to save some WR for the other teams.

Cardale would have been a gamble as well, his body of work was not that big. So, again, I get passing on him.

When we did go QB, I was puzzled mostly because it took me a while to place him. He's Hue's guy, so I'll see what happens.

Cook ... wow. He must be some sort of tool to drop that far. And to Oakland, who just took Carr. I will go on record with a dream scenario. Carr gets dinged up a bit this season and Cook has to play. Cook does really, really well. We trade, using some of our extra picks, to Oakland for Carr.

As to the rest of the draft ... don't know much about these guys so I'll just have to wait and see.

I'm very curious to see this kid play. It's obvious Hue sees something in him he really likes, and Hue believes he'll be good with a little work. I just want to see what the HC sees in this kid.

Wow! me too. That was a really well thought out post mac.

Of the 14 guys we took can anyone truly say they had any of them in their radar? Lot's of late picks and some good picks for next year.

We're in good shape draft wise and I'm not going to complain.

But I don't see the big talent or what they where looking for here but really, what do I know? Many of the guys we took have big chips on their shoulder and a couple weren't even picked to be drafted. This was a very very interesting draft to say the least. Really hope the FO hit on a few picks here.

First post here so.

Hopefully one of the many WRs we took pans out to be something for us. Farmer is probably crying in a corner factoring how many WRs we took and the fact we swiped the first one off the board.

Ognah looks nasty. From all I've read, he's a real high character guy. Really they all seem like that. We didn't pick anyone who's dad is questioning them or had tons of drug charges, which I admire highly. No more losers. Thanks Sashi and company.

All of Sashi pressers, he seemed very confident and very in tune. IMO, they did a superb job, yes I'm non sarcasticly saying they did a superb job, setting us up for a hell of a 2017 draft.

I like it. This season will get a feel for the weaker spots in all the new schemes and etc. We'll have picks to use to trade up or whatever we need to get players to fill them holes.

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First, you never can tell how a draft class pans out until a few years down the road.

Having said that, I am not thrilled with what we did.

I am ok with the first two picks, but after that, not sure what we were thinking. I do like Nassib and Coleman, but I cannot understand taking players that are too small (the CB we took) or not on anyone's radar (Princeton TE). We reached on just about every pick after the Nassib and Coleman pick, aside form maybe Higgins. Do not get me started on Kessler. He is a backup at best. We could draft a backup QB in the 6th or 7th round. That was a wasted pick.

My hope for 2017 is we possibly trade up in the draft and not down. Unload a second and a third to get back into the first round. It will be totally opposite of what we did this year.

We need talent, not numbers.

4 to 6 wins?

We have a chance to win one game this year, the Titans game.

If we go 0-16, it would not surprise me.

I'd be content if we go 0-16..... it ain't about this year.

I'm being real, I also am not going to be at all shocked if we end the season with no wins. It gets us that much closer to this Deshaun Watson Qb everyone is already gossiping and crap about.

Even if we're giving our all, three wins at max and extremely unlikely.

What year is it about?

probably starting in 2018.

So, who are the top QB prospects in the 2017 class?

Watson, QB from Clemson (top of the list)

It's kind of a shame that the best thing we have to talk about after this draft, is next years draft.

there are two posts about next year's draft and 1000 posts on this year's draft since the draft ended. Why are you saying this?

He's muck raking.

Because usually fans are talking about next years season. How much improvement we will see in the w/l category.

This year? Fans have resigned themselves to the fact that it's next years draft we are looking forward to, not next years season.

We all make new decisions on things (or players) when we get more information.

I was really confused by the Ricardo Louis pick, until I did more digging, and found that he had a very poor QB situation, was thrown into coverage more than most WR would like, and had no help at any of the other receiving positions.

Happens all the time Ytown.

Isn't there a thread about it?

Isn't there nearly 30 threads since the draft ended, still talking about this year's draft?

now THAT was a surprise....

I won't take that article to be conclusive but it is encouraging, exciting and somewhat startling for this organization to get that amount of positive recognition.

I'll be looking for every shred of news as the mini camps and OTA's take place. The only thing that's certain is the 2016 Browns will be a distinctly different football team from anything we've seen in recent memory. I'm hopeful.

Interesting. Granted, I don't take much of what these guys say as gospel, because they know the future as much as any of us, but I liked that recognized certain attributes of some of our picks. Granted, I know Scooby Wright played in a 'full attack' blitzing defense, which won't happen in the NFL. Yes, I know some of these guys are considered undersized. The common factor on most of them is speed. They're all fast.

Oh there is much fighting, biting, scratching, and hair pulling to be done around here between now and then LOL. Not to mention the chest thumping, my dad can beat up your Dad, and your Mom wears army boots posts.

. You are being far too kind with your words...

Browns getting some love...LOL

I have to be this is a PG rated board

Sashi Brown was on the Ross Tucker Football Podcast and talks about the draft. A few new nuggets in there.

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