DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... Parent's Sing "Jesus Loves Me" to drown out support for trans-gendered bathroom policy

I find this very sad. It takes an incredibly small mind to even dwell on this topic. If somebody wants to rape your child, they find a way to do it... just ask a priest.

Most of these trans have been using those bathrooms for years because they look like the gender they identify as, there was no rash of child rapes all those years.

But those small, closed minded, fearful people have been all riled up and they are on to the next great christian rights battle, no trans. They lost the no gays battle, so now it's trans. SAD.

Jesus would not promote it, but he also would not show this hate.

Good question and most likely not. But there were probably gays and crossdressing trannies.

Yes, but I also have to point out they were pedos too.

I am more concerned about changing the cat litter or..

I wonder how many DT posters have ever known a transgender individual.
I have... and Sandra posed no threat to anyone- especially children.




To date, those type arguments are all you will get, because that's all there is. Trans people are not pedophiles... and laws already exist to pursue, prosecute and punish those "people" who are. Fear is the only motivation behind these efforts- fear based upon ignorance about the subject... not hard facts, not data-driven research, not even anecdotal evidence.

But I don't expect to change anyone's mind about this issue. Most likely the only thing that could accomplish such a change of heart/mind is knowing a transgender individual. It took me about 2 years of hard soul-searching to get where I am now, and I'd known Sandra for 20 years before. I'm just glad I did the work... because 4 years into her new life, she was taken from us by a particularly aggressive form of brain cancer.

Stuart was a good friend for 20+ years... and Sandra was just as good a friend in the time we had together. I miss them both to this day- and I'm glad that I 'got over myself' enough to be her friend during her last months on Earth. Had I not done that, I'd have missed my only chance to say goodbye in June, 2014. I like not having to carry around that regret. I'm a better person for choosing as I did.

This is a new challenge for our society. Previous generations could do nothing to prepare us for dealing with such a medical reality, so we'll have to go it on our own. I fully expect us to progress on much the same trajectory as most other social issues that have gone on before. We should talk again in 20 years.

yea, i don't know what to choose either, which is why it basically boils down to this:

Everybody in america has used a public restroom with a transgendered person at some point in their lives while having zero idea about it. and if you live in a metro area, quite possibly daily or weekly.

so right now we have two sides who brought attention to what was essentially a non existent problem.

now it's yet another issue thats dividing this country.

religious vs non religious
gay vs straight
men vs women
black vs white
rich vs poor
and now this.

We live in two Americas. Some on this board already knew that, now others are starting to wise up to it.

if people would just mind their own damn business, a lot of problems could start to diminish.

unfortunately, minding ones own business is clearly a minority opinion.

Here's my opinion on this matter. I have kids, and I've worried about sending them into a public bathroom when they were young. I was able to accompany my sons, but I wasn't able to accompany my daughters. Women can be perverts too. I'd personally like to see more family bathrooms in public spaces.

If a true transsexual (meaning someone truly trying to portray themselves as the opposite gender) goes into a bathroom, you'd never know it, as they will act like that opposite gender. They'd just do their business and leave. I wouldn't have wanted my sons or daughters in a bathroom with that person that just puts on the clothing and gets a thrill. In my opinion, a walking carpet in a dress is not transsexual.

I am not a christian, and my opinion is not based on religion. My opinion is based on practicality and safety.

I have kids, and I've worried about sending them into a public bathroom when they were young.

You're missing the point, as are most people who are arguing for this law. This has zero to do with Transgender people. Like DC is saying, in the rush to appease the LGBT community, politicians have created a law with a gaping loophole for sexual predators. Rather than address it, everyone is just quickly jumping to their usual, "Well you must hate [insert minority group], you massive bigot" argument.

I've seen an image on Facebook with a picture of Bruce Jenner and Jared Foggle, trying to say something along the lines of "The one that looks like the woman isn't going to hurt your child" ... They've missed the point entirely. The point is it doesn't matter which one is dangerous to children, it's that either one of them can now enter the women's room and you have no justification or recourse for kicking the pervy one out.

Exactly what law has been created because of the LGBT community that allows transgendered, transsexuals, cross dressers, and whomever the right to go into a bathroom that is not the one assigned to their sex?

My boy isn't old enough yet to be potty trained, but I worry about that too. I have a close family member who works in the prison system and ... the deplorable things people do to kids. Maybe I'm a bit jaded because I hear these stories weekly. Sometimes I wish I didn't know someone so knowledgeable on these terrible acts, but I'd rather know than be ignorant.

Let me put it to everyone this way, if you are at all concerned about your children and bathrooms, don't limit your radar to bearded men in dresses. In the dozens of stories I've heard over the years, not one comes to mind involving a crossdresser or transgender M2F. Do they exist? I'm sure they do. But do NOT look at a guy in a tshirt and jeans and assume he's normal. Go into the bathroom with your kids and make sure it's OK. Don't give these bottom feeders any opportunity.

People can't seem to grasp the concept that not everybody is the same.

Yes, America, people are different. Shocking, I know.

I know this board isn't too big on equality, but that's typically what's needed in order to progress and become a better nation.

You realize this has been a problem before this topic was on anybody's radar, right?

As a matter of fact, since you're so against this, show me the stats where people have crossed dressed to attack little kids compared to the "normal" pedo's who just attack little kids dressed normally.

i'm trying to find this policy/law in california stating that normal straight men are allowed in women's bathroom's.

if you could help me out, that will be greatly appreciated.

i'm trying to find this policy/law in california stating that normal straight men are allowed in women's bathroom's.

if you could help me out, that will be greatly appreciated.

Just get rid of multiple user bathrooms.

The pervs can stand in line like everyone else and how you identify today will be a non-issue.

Stop it, you were the same dude two years ago crying that you was boycotting target because of the gun policy they used.

No credibility.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-l...-identify-with/

Uh yes ... But now they can walk straight into the girls changing room and stand there. You have no recourse to kick them out. So long as they don't rape anyone, they can stay there as long as they want.


All of that is completely irrelevant. For one, nobody has to cross-dress to do anything now. Just walk right in. And nobody has to "attack" anyone either. Most pervs don't even care about rape, they just want to be peeping toms.

If your daughter would go to high school in California and was on the swim team, Jared the Subway guy could walk straight into women's room and watch her change, and there is literally nothing you can do about it. So as long as he doesn't "attack" her, I guess you're okay with it?

You could claim anything before, but you could and would get kicked out if you were anatomically a guy. You could also press charges for various other peeping tom violations. Now you only need to claim you feel like a woman. So while you try to deflect everything with your usual, "well it's going to happen anyway" argument, let's just take away any sort of recourse we might of had for not letting it happen. Does that tighten the warm blanket around you?

But yeah, let's just ignore that and bring up some inane skirt checking nazis to redirect.

As me and others have said. If you can find a way to accurately identify transgenders from anyone else, that would likely make this a non-issue for a lot of people.