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Déjà vu all over again. Mind set of just one game. Six at home might help. A seven would be heaven. Kyrie and LBJ were incredible, and Kyrie grew some more.

TT, Delly, Shumpert, and Love were not much help IMO. Still like the spark Jefferson gives us. Sitting some down with for GS helped.

Sick of all the "hate debate" around Green. Couldn't believe all the coverage he got, like he was victimized. Broadcast bias IMO: Not what we did right; all about what GS did wrong, what they need to do to be better, not love for some amazing b-ball by Cavs. Typical.

Incredible win. Go, Cavs!

The last time LeBron was playing with house money the Heat ousted the Spurs.

Let's get to a game 7, please.

We might be up 3-2 right now if we'd get the same LeBron every night. That's the one thing that just bugs me.

Love the killer instinct Kyrie is playing with. He's growing up right in front of us.

I thought the hate debate was Curry's shoes.

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You have no clue, but it is hilarious to read your whiny drivel.

For game 6, Lebron has got to show the same aggressiveness with green in, especially since it looks like bogut is not gonna be able to play.

Yeah, I agree. It's kinda crazy because LeBron seemed a bit passive in the first few minutes of the game. He was standing around a lot and shot a few long-range shots. A couple went in and Kyrie went off and LeBron became much more aggressive.

It's game six and we still have a shot. Gotta love that.

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I have to admit, I didn't watch the game. I honestly didn't think they had a chance in hell of pulling off a win.

Congrats to the Cavs...

Same here. I was working out and fully expected to see a GS win when I got back upstairs. Very surprised.

without shot blocking, that really opens up thing for kyrie and lebron, they can either finish, draw fouls and kick and hopefully someone can knock down a shot.

its not, now he's in the penalty so to speak, so every one he gets from here is a game suspension

I think it was funny that Klay and GS thought they could talk smack about lebron and the cavs being whiners and not expect retribution, They better hope they don't get pissed off lebron at home too, my thought is they will, plus i think everyone will play better at home, then by miracle we get a game 7, all bets are off. Though i'm not sure I'd bet against Lebron on a game 7 for a ring. I think he's been saving a little bit for that potential showdown. Best case scenario is a blowout cavs win thursday that gets lebron/kyrie some extra rest.

Yeah, we need the home-court heros JR Smith, Kevin Love, Channing Frye to pour in some points on Thursday so Lebron and Kyrie don't have to do all the work and risk injury through playing through overexertion.

Better yet. Get him a Flagrant II for Ejection AND game 7 suspension.

Some guys have to get themselves riled up to play. Green strikes me as that type of player. If he's not jawing, screaming, trying to antagonize the other guy, his intensity level is lower. It will be interesting to see how he plays in Game 6.

Man, if the Cavs can get to a game 7 that would be awesome. Anything can happen, especially with the Cavs having the momentum and GS being a little shell shocked.

It would so be the Cleveland way to have to make history to finally win it all. Nothing easy. Fingers crossed. Cavs will probably get blown out in Game 6 ... LOL.

Yeah after bogut got hurt I would have went to frye and parked TT on the bench, theres really only one person on this board that Thinks TT should be a starter and is a "THE key to our success", but that guy doesn't have a clue what a basketball is then alone what a good basketball player looks like. I think if Bogut doesn't play game 6 you start frye and spread the floor and blitz them, TT can't be trusted with the ball on offense anyways and he has oven mitts for hands, the other option would be to go half court and put mosgov down there and beat them up inside. I think if they go to their small ball lineup, you keep your bigs in and hurt them, we fall into trying to matchup and it favors GS when they have Green at the 5, but atleast frye gives you some offense and is a true 7 footer who isn't scared of defending the rim, He'll get the most out of his fouls. Game 6 at home and they don't have rim protection favors us, we have a few different ways we can attack.

I want to beat them at their best. Forget this get Draymond suspended nonsense. I want him to play and for LeBron to make him his B-----.

As good as LeBron's numbers were, it didn't really feel like it was killer instinct he was showing. It seemed almost....zen. It seemed pretty weird to me. He did find his jumper, though. Hopefully it sticks around. When he's attacking the basket with ferocity and hitting jumpers LeBron is unstoppable
I want Green to bring out the fire in LBJ.

I'm hearing a lot about our offense playing well, and I really didn't see a whole lot of that. There were a few good plays of team offense, but it was mostly LeBron and Kyrie putting the team on their backs. Hopefully good JR shows up to give them some help. I'm not sure Love is actually over his concussion. He doesn't look right, and I have no faith in him right now.

I might play LeBron at the 5 and just have 4 shooters spread around the outside. Make it hard to help with the defensive 3 seconds rule.

I want to win. I don't care who plays or doesn't.

did Frye play last night?

I didn't see him out there.

Local sports guy on 610 this morning:

The Cavs big three combine for 84 points! Lebron James 41, Kyrie Irving 41, Kevin Love 2.

Funny, but I bet he's still foggy from the concussion.

0 Minutes according to the box score. Interesting.

Also, looking at the plus/minus is always telling.

Klay was -21 ... and he had 38 points!! That's an incredible stat ... nearly impossible

Delly was the lone Cav with a negative number. I would have guessed. He's been bad.

Shumpert was like +8. He does play bothersome defense.

Kyrie was like +20. Lebron not far behind.

I think Frye is a real defensive liability in this series and that is the reason his minutes have diminished.

No question. My big reason for saying "interesting" is that he didn't even get in with the very last lineup. Everybody else played at least a few possessions. Maybe something's up

I mentioned this before, but Steve Adams took a shot to the man-bits in the WCF and OKC responded by going off on Golden State. Iggy took a swipe to the same area in Game 1, and the Warriors responded by dominating the rest of that game and Game 2. Lebron took a low-blow from Draymond to end Game 4, and he responded by going scorched-earth to the tune of 41 points.

Again, the key to victory for Game 6 will be to take shots to the groin early and often!

Baiting Draymond into taking those cheap shots would be a good double-whammy.

the bottom line is we don't have any defense under the rim, TT is constantly out of position and late to rotate, Frye has played tougher under the basket, plus he can shoot, though it seems he hasn't been given the shots, just like JR, it seems this series everyone's attempts are down except lebron/kyrie

maybe frye was in doghouse for his comments to media? not sure but we gave up a bit to get him specifically for this series and we don't play him.

Love scored two points last night... Two! ...Wow... What is up with him? Lord have mercy!

-It will be VERY interesting to see how we fair with Green back on the court on Thursday. I hope he gets kicked out of the game, hopefully at the beginning.

It was truly an amazing game last night. Loved it.

There is no reason to hold anything back, you are not saving yourself for anything. You have your home crowd behind you. Go out and give it literally everything you have.

Lebron and Kyrie were a 2 man show last night. They combined to score 82 of our 112 points; so everyone not named Lebron or Kyrie combined to score only 30 points.

It is funny though ..... Kyrie was 1st on the team with a +20. Love was 2nd with a +18.

Sorry, Tulsa.

No debate. Everybody hates 'em, universally. Even his own mudder won't wear 'em.

Draymont Green adores them. He kicks better in them . . . .

Great game! Get six. Go, Cavs!

I like the idea of Big M out there for some minutes, just big, go hard while you can, and give it hell!. IIRC, he gave them some trouble last year. Fresh legs. Some other folks did not show up enough at all. Rotations don't need tweaked; they need to be re-thought IMO.

Great game! Props. Save nothing. And we gave them trouble in the paint. Getting them in foul trouble is our friend.

Go, Cavs.

Why even give old bench players "player options"

Who wouldn't sign up for another year to make millions of dollars riding the bench on a Contending team?

It was the price of having him early in the season I would guess. I mean it's not like it's crazy money for Williams at this point, and we're not drafting high level talent that he's keeping from getting a spot on the bench...

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2016/story/_/id/16209675/andrew-bogut-knee-done-finals-need-surgery

Bogut is out the rest of the Finals.

they have zero rim protection now. Festus is trash.

That Draymond Green guy is still pretty good ...

He won't be guarding Kyrie though

Bogut didn't either. Draymond at Center is what made that small ball death line up of theirs work.

You're forgetting the block shots bogut was providing.

This is gonna hurt GS, because Festus is a liability.

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Not saying we are gonna win. I'm just saying this helps a little bit.