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I'm totally sick of all the Bengazi talk and the Email talk.
If they got proof she did something, then charge her...
If you can't do that, then you got nothing. She's probably guilty of something, but until they prove it and actually charge her, this is a distraction. Nothing more.
When the Justice Department allows the FBI to release the facts, you will have what you are looking for. In the mean time you can keep your eyes closed tightly, very tightly. Blah blah blah 40. The pitchfork and torches crowd has moved on. Find another situation
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I can't handle the truth?
You jack Nicholson now? The only truth here is that you guys are grasping for straws cause you got nothing.
Sure, let's make this about Chicago. Lol
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A fictional fairy tale about some chick who had sex and needed to lie about birthing the son of God so she won't get stoned to death.
You're right. The myth has nothing to do with real people. I see you are taking over for PDR as the person who drops in zingers and mocks and belittles the Christian faith in all of the religious threads. Except this isn't a religious thread, and you brought it up first in here. I take it you're the day time version of YTown, dropping religious talk in every thread. Don't supply me the ammo if you don't want me firing it. Yea, that's me, dropping religious talk in all of the threads, that's what I do.. Only thing you are firing is blanks bro..
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A fictional fairy tale about some chick who had sex and needed to lie about birthing the son of God so she won't get stoned to death.
You're right. The myth has nothing to do with real people. I see you are taking over for PDR as the person who drops in zingers and mocks and belittles the Christian faith in all of the religious threads. Except this isn't a religious thread, and you brought it up first in here. I take it you're the day time version of YTown, dropping religious talk in every thread. Don't supply me the ammo if you don't want me firing it. Yea, that's me, dropping religious talk in all of the threads, that's what I do.. Only thing you are firing is blanks bro.. Judging by my two kids, I rate that statement as incorrect.
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A fictional fairy tale about some chick who had sex and needed to lie about birthing the son of God so she won't get stoned to death.
You're right. The myth has nothing to do with real people. I see you are taking over for PDR as the person who drops in zingers and mocks and belittles the Christian faith in all of the religious threads. Except this isn't a religious thread, and you brought it up first in here. I take it you're the day time version of YTown, dropping religious talk in every thread. Don't supply me the ammo if you don't want me firing it. Yea, that's me, dropping religious talk in all of the threads, that's what I do.. Only thing you are firing is blanks bro.. Judging by my two kids, I rate that statement as incorrect. So you were suggesting earlier that I gave you the ammo to fire to make your two kids? Glad I could help. 
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40.
If you were hoping to beat Hillary up with it, just pick up any other stick she has provided for you. The email stick looks pretty hard, the Clinton Foundation stick might be a killer... take your pick. Benghazi is a pool noodle though, just saying.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40.
If you were hoping to beat Hillary up with it, just pick up any other stick she has provided for you. The email stick looks pretty hard, the Clinton Foundation stick might be a killer... take your pick. Benghazi is a pool noodle though, just saying. Another poster closes his eyes to the truth. Beating up on Hillary is unnecessary because she does that well enough on her own.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40.
If you were hoping to beat Hillary up with it, just pick up any other stick she has provided for you. The email stick looks pretty hard, the Clinton Foundation stick might be a killer... take your pick. Benghazi is a pool noodle though, just saying. I agree with you. Funny thing is that Hillary almost benefits from all of the lies and the scandals and the crap that she has been at the heart of.. those who support her look at her almost like a victim of the evil right going after her.. when she is as guilty as anything in a bunch of it. I also find it funny that most people, especially on the left, like to remind you that the rich and powerful are above the law and never held accountable... then when you throw out myriad of Hillary scandals they always come back with, "Has she ever been convicted of anything?"... she is the personification of rich white privilege.
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Closing my eyes to what exactly? I think Hillary's State Department made a mistake in Benghazi. Hell I think even going into Libya was a huge mistake. I still don't think there is a cover up more than covering their own butts. Just like I don't think Bush really had anything to do with 911, jury is still out on Cheney though. 
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I'm totally sick of all the Bengazi talk and the Email talk.
If they got proof she did something, then charge her...
If you can't do that, then you got nothing. She's probably guilty of something, but until they prove it and actually charge her, this is a distraction. Nothing more.
When the Justice Department allows the FBI to release the facts, you will have what you are looking for. In the mean time you can keep your eyes closed tightly, very tightly. Yeah Yeah Yeah... Blah Blah Blah When they charge her, we'll know what's going on. Until then it's political.... Like I said, I'm pretty sure she's guilty of something, but what, I don't honestly know. I don't see how you can be so sure. There isn't any proof that they've allowed out.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40. Like we are asked to let it go when it comes to... -White Water -the Clinton Foundation -Her husband raping subordinates -Vince Foster Close your eyes, all is well, no pattern to see here.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40. Like we are asked to let it go when it comes to... -White Water -the Clinton Foundation -Her husband raping subordinates -Vince Foster Close your eyes, all is well, no pattern to see here. Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed? No you say? Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, then it's all political Show me the proof.. Having said that, she is as crooked as a windy road.. I know that in my heart. I just can't prove it. Neither can you apparently.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40. Like we are asked to let it go when it comes to... -White Water -the Clinton Foundation -Her husband raping subordinates -Vince Foster Close your eyes, all is well, no pattern to see here. Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed? No you say? Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, they it's all political Show me the proof.. Having said that, she is as crooked as a windy road.. I know that in my heart. I just can't prove it. Neither can you apparently. I apologize for suggesting you are closing your eyes as you talk out of both sides of your neck.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40. Like we are asked to let it go when it comes to... -White Water -the Clinton Foundation -Her husband raping subordinates -Vince Foster Close your eyes, all is well, no pattern to see here. Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed? No you say? Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, they it's all political Show me the proof.. Having said that, she is as crooked as a windy road.. I know that in my heart. I just can't prove it. Neither can you apparently. I apologize for suggesting you are closing your eyes as you talk out of both sides of your neck. Resorting to insults only lets me know who the kind of person I'm speaking with
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Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed?
No you say?
Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, then it's all political God I hope you are not that naive. Hillary is guilty of probably dozens of felonies down through the years.. the Republicans know that none of their investigations will ever stick and in reality they don't want them to because if some start to stick, then they might come looking to see what they can make stick against Republicans.. but they have to make a show of it for their constituents.. none of that changes the fact that Hillary is as guilty as OJ on a variety of things.
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The truth about Benghazi is that it was a terrible thing. Sometimes you have to let it go 40. Like we are asked to let it go when it comes to... -White Water -the Clinton Foundation -Her husband raping subordinates -Vince Foster Close your eyes, all is well, no pattern to see here. Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed? No you say? Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, they it's all political Show me the proof.. Having said that, she is as crooked as a windy road.. I know that in my heart. I just can't prove it. Neither can you apparently. I apologize for suggesting you are closing your eyes as you talk out of both sides of your neck. Resorting to insults only lets me know who the kind of person I'm speaking with When a man stands twirling on his head and I say you are twirling on your head, it is not meant as an insult.
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Chapter 11....Making America great, By Donald Trump. "The Four Bankruptcies Where and when: 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009 Four times in his career, Trump’s companies have entered bankruptcy. In the late 1980s, after insisting that his major qualification to build a new casino in Atlantic City was that he wouldn’t need to use junk bonds, Trump used junk bonds to build Trump Taj Mahal. He built the casino, but couldn’t keep up with interest payments, so his company declared bankruptcy in 1991. He had to sell his yacht, his airline, and half his ownership in the casino. A year later, another of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, went bust after losing more than $550 million. Trump gave up his stake but otherwise insulated himself personally from losses, and managed to keep his CEO title, even though he surrendered any salary or role in day-to-day operations. By the time all was said and done, he had some $900 million in personal debt. Trump bounced back over the following decade, but by 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was $1.8 billion in debt. The company filed for bankruptcy and emerged as Trump Entertainment Resorts. Trump himself was the chairman of the new company, but he no longer had a controlling stake in it. Five years later, after the real-estate collapse, Trump Entertainment Resorts once again went bankrupt. Trump resigned from the board, but the company retained his name. In 2014, he successfully sued to take his name off the company and its casinos—one of which had already closed, and the other of which was near closing." http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/
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Isn't that Fauxcahontas?
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Have either of them been charged with anything surrounding those items listed?
No you say?
Has it hit you yet that these may simply be political attacks? I mean, until they are proven and the Clintons Charged, then it's all political God I hope you are not that naive. Hillary is guilty of probably dozens of felonies down through the years.. the Republicans know that none of their investigations will ever stick and in reality they don't want them to because if some start to stick, then they might come looking to see what they can make stick against Republicans.. but they have to make a show of it for their constituents.. none of that changes the fact that Hillary is as guilty as OJ on a variety of things. I'm not even close to that naive at all.. Like I said, she's probably guilty of a bunch of stuff... But the word PROBABLY that you used and that I've used doesn't get it done. Look I'm not a lawyer, But I do understand that in America, we are considered innocent until proven guilty. They haven't even been charged with anything yet. All we got is a bunch of blowhards feeding the masses what they want to hear. At this moment, that's all it is. Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that? I was listening to the GOP mouthpiece on the net today,,, B I'll boil it down for you.. Hillary Guilty, read the report... LOL If she's guilty show me and please,,, I WANNA SEE A PERP WALK with her in Cuffs.. I'd like that... ALOT. So would Donald Trump and I bet Bernie Sanders would love it also..
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It’s one thing for a businessman to conduct hard-nosed dealings with other corporate giants. But these stories are distasteful because they suggest Trump hurting hard-working Americans—including small-business owners, one of the more hallowed classes in U.S. politics. Hurting the little guy is one characteristic this story shares with Trump University, the allegedly fraudulent, allegedly educational institution Trump created to deliver seminars on getting rich in real estate.
Trump and his company are being sued by former students who claim that the only people making money from the scheme were Trump and his cronies, and that “students”—really customers—learned nothing useful. (Trump was previously forced to drop the “university” designation after New York state pointed out that he had no license to operate a school.) A set of documents released last week painted a damning picture of Trump U. as a bit of a scam. But the presumptive Republican nominee has managed to make an embarrassing story much worse.
First, he blasted Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge overseeing two lawsuits. It’s unwise to attack a judge who will be ruling on you, but Trump further argued that Curiel was biased against him, because he was “Mexican” (in fact, he’s of Mexican descent but born in Indiana), given Trump’s comments about Mexicans and a border wall. The reaction was harsh, but Trump—taking a lesson from the campaign so far—decided to amplify his remarks, rather than dial them back. That hasn’t gone over well. The attacks on Curiel have been denounced across the board, even by Republicans who had recently endorsed Trump, and might be ruing the decision. Some conservatives have called for Trump’s endorsers to rescind their backing, and Senator Mark Kirk of Illinois has done so.
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She'll trade her DNA for copies of Trump's 2013-2015 tax returns.
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I find it interesting that Trump supported Brexit while Obama, Hillary and the almighty Press rejected it and the Press presented Polls showing Brexit would go down in defeat.
Once again Trump was right, just like his call on Terrorism in Belgium, and the Brits agreed.
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"The breadth of Trump’s controversies is truly HUUUUGE, ranging from allegations of mafia ties to unscrupulous business dealings, and from racial discrimination to alleged marital rape. The stretch over more than four decades, from the mid-1970s to the present day. To catalogue the full sweep of allegations would require thousands of words and lump together the trivial with the truly scandalous."
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Chapter 11....Making America great, By Donald Trump. "The Four Bankruptcies Where and when: 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009 Four times in his career, Trump’s companies have entered bankruptcy. In the late 1980s, after insisting that his major qualification to build a new casino in Atlantic City was that he wouldn’t need to use junk bonds, Trump used junk bonds to build Trump Taj Mahal. He built the casino, but couldn’t keep up with interest payments, so his company declared bankruptcy in 1991. He had to sell his yacht, his airline, and half his ownership in the casino. A year later, another of Trump’s Atlantic City casinos, the Trump Plaza, went bust after losing more than $550 million. Trump gave up his stake but otherwise insulated himself personally from losses, and managed to keep his CEO title, even though he surrendered any salary or role in day-to-day operations. By the time all was said and done, he had some $900 million in personal debt. Trump bounced back over the following decade, but by 2004, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts was $1.8 billion in debt. The company filed for bankruptcy and emerged as Trump Entertainment Resorts. Trump himself was the chairman of the new company, but he no longer had a controlling stake in it. Five years later, after the real-estate collapse, Trump Entertainment Resorts once again went bankrupt. Trump resigned from the board, but the company retained his name. In 2014, he successfully sued to take his name off the company and its casinos—one of which had already closed, and the other of which was near closing." http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/donald-trump-scandals/474726/ And? This was old news 2 years ago.
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I find it interesting that Trump supported Brexit while Obama, Hillary and the almighty Press rejected it and the Press presented Polls showing Brexit would go down in defeat.
Then when the almighty press supports your agenda your fickle finger of fate points another way.
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What you fail to realize, even if all you say were true, is that Trump was not a political figure or employed by the public during his lifetime, he was a private citizen.
Hillary on the other hand was a Senator and Secretary of State and paid by us while she did her dirty deeds.
HUUUUUUUGE Difference!
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Almost as old as the Bengazi attacks and the Senator Pochahantas story
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So if somebody murders someone in say... Ukraine, and then becomes a US citizen, it means they didn't murder anybody, and is absolved of all fault?
You guys logic. At least I gave up on Hilary until Gary Johnson decides to drop. Trump was right: he could shoot somebody, and y'all would defend him like he's a saint.
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Hillary on the other hand was a Senator and Secretary of State and paid by us while she did her dirty deeds.
What dirty deeds? And who do you think ends up paying for all the bankruptcies of Trump? Hint, U.S. Tax payers workers, middle class. Robbing students behind the guise of a faux university is so commendable.
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Hillary on the other hand was a Senator and Secretary of State and paid by us while she did her dirty deeds.
What dirty deeds? Eyes wide shut.  Shouldn't you be peeking thru the blinds at your neighbors with guns about now?
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Trump was right: he could shoot somebody, and y'all would defend him like he's a saint. He would still be responsible for far fewer deaths than Hillary... but at least he'd be tied with Ted Kennedy. 
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As much as I have opposed Trump, I have to admit that he was very compelling today when he spoke about the trade deals this country has entered into, and why/how these deals are killing the US.
I think that we must have trade among nations, but we really are at a huge disadvantage in most of these deals, and they do need to be reopened. The deals that are still in negotiation need to be amended greatly before they are agreed to and/or ratified.
I think that this is a real winner for Trump, if he stays on it. No one can really develop an argument that says that manufacturing, and other similarly good paying jobs, are increasing in the US. Is the middle class in the US growing? Are ordinary people doing better, under the policies espoused by Obama and Clinton? Are we seeing an increase of good paying, full time jobs, which can allow a person to raise a family?
I think that this is an issue that can really gain support for Trump, if he stays on it, and stays on message. No matter what the distractions, keep coming back to the basics of how our current trade policies and treaties are really hurting so very many living in this country.
Trump needs to drop all of the "goofy", and "crooked" stuff, and stay on the concerns of ordinary people, and keep bringing everything back to this same starting point ..... that these trade deals are killing the US, and hurting her people. People don't care that Hillary lied, and that people died as a result. People don't care that Warren lied about being Native American, and that she, essentially, stole a spot allocated for people who were truly Native American. People just don't care about these things. Well ... some people do, but those in the middle are not moved by such things. It's not an issue that moves undecided voters. Unfortunately, character matters little to today's voters, and Trump has at least as many character concerns as Clinton does. He needs to get off of this track, and onto a winning track, and I think that trade can be it. If he gathers together all of Hillary's statements about all of these trade deals, I think that he can really hurt her a great deal, and can do so without making himself look bad at the same time.
If he does that, I think that he can win. While that's a scary thought, if he stays on the basics, of trying to make life better for ordinary people, maybe even I could support him. Clinton is, and has been, in favor of every one of these lousy trade deals we have in place today. I think that this is a real winner for Trump. He is going to have to get off the rest of the garbage he has spewed, though.
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First, he blasted Gonzalo Curiel, the federal judge overseeing two lawsuits. It’s unwise to attack a judge who will be ruling on you, but Trump further argued that Curiel was biased against him, because he was “Mexican” (in fact, he’s of Mexican descent but born in Indiana), given Trump’s comments about Mexicans and a border wall. Actually, that may turn out to be brilliant. If Curiel rules against him, which I see as a probable, Trump will turn around and say, "See, I told you so, I told you that he would do that and he's doing it because of my comments about Mexicans and he's a Mexican." That will further outrage Trump supporters.. Any bets? LOL
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So, Benghazi was a tragedy, but looking over multiple reports of the final release from the committee.
There was never any stand down order. That's from republicans own mouths.
Hilary was engaged with the White House and CIA during the incident. From the republicans own mouths.
And she never denied any request for assistance. From the republicans own mouths.
Here's something I found hilariously sad and disappointing though:
Republicans said that the biggest issue was that security was inadequate at the embassy prior to the incident.
Anybody wanna take a wild guess as to which party was responsible for cutting funding for embassy security?
So since we love witch hunts, can we put republicans on trial for cutting embassy security funding, which if they had the proper resources, could've prevented the deaths? Or the millions they wasted for 9 committees who didn't find anything time and time again?
Or does witch hunts only work one way?
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So what did she lie about? Republicans just essentially cleared her of any wrong doing. So she's a typically political liar, but it ain't from Benghazi anymore.
It's also funny how you've gone from "I'll never vote for him" to "eh... Well, ya know".....
That tells me whatever moral high ground you thought you have is gone. I guess you was never really serious about your takes on morals and Christianity and all that other nonsense you said prior to this post as it relates to trump. As a matter of fact, I fully expect you to be on the trump train about a month or two before Election Day.
At least other people didn't dance around the topic, and made it clear they would vote for trump regardless of all that.
Can't say I'm surprised though, the more nasty and racist he gets, the more supporters he gets.
Anyway, his trade agreement arguments are ok, if it wasn't for the fact that he himself uses foriegn labor. Also, let's not forget that tariffs he plans on using as leverage, which ultimately might be used. What was it, 35-45%?
Except those foreign businesses don't pay that, we do.
I'll take trump seriously when he decides to get his stuff made in America. I'm not gonna listen to a guy who doesn't practice what he preaches.
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