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Iggy Azalea might be available too. I didn't even know she played basketball! 
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How does Wade even fit? I'd use him as an overqualified sixth man. The Cavs need guys who can space the floor and Wade is an atrocious three point shooter. That's actually something I was thinking as well. At this point I think keeping JR is more important that signing Wade, even if it were possible. If somehow they both were here, I'd still have Smith start and have Wade run the second team. Save wear and tear on his body and he "should" be able to light up the other team's #2's. Hell, have Love come off the bench too. Starting lineup: Kyrie JR Smith Shumpert LeBron Thompson Second Unit: Williams Wade Jefferson Love Frye I know basket ball rotations aren't like hockey lines, but I'd think that, that would be a pretty potent plan, with the second line suffering defensively but they should be able to score with most team's first lines (assuming old age doesn't hit them all at once)...
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windy is ADAMANT that cleveland can't/won't sign Wade
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A few more thoughts:
--?David West going to Golden State was big for them and bad for us. He gives them a low post scorer and another rebounder.
--I think Wade is a long-shot to come here, but if he does come here, that means we won't have JR.
--Wade would fit in Cleveland. The Cavs are almost assured of winning the East. He would be extremely valuable in the Finals against Thompson and the Warriors.
--I wonder if we could bring in someone like Mario Chalmers, Tim Frazier, Jarret Jack, or Jason Terry?
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I just don't see this deal happening. If it did, it would mean the following scenarios. (1) Lebron would need to make a huge pay cut, which he already said he won't. (2) Wade would need to accept our mid-level exception (about $4M). I don't see that happening unless he wants a ring that bad and want to give Pat Riley the middle finger. (3) If option 1 and 2 are out, you'd have to trade Kevin Love. That's how you'd make the money work. Personally, that's not something I want to do to get 1/2 years from a 35 year old guard. He's slowed down dramatically and his defense, which would be critical against a team like GS has dropped significantly. Maybe Tristan Thompson would be another trade target but I'm not sure the money fits unless you add someone else?? Still, as much as I'm not a fan of the TT contract, it still makes sense to keep that over a Wade rental, IMO. I could be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but I think these are the only realistic scenarios Cleveland has to pick up Wade. And collateral damage could see JR leaving the team. I don't see this happening.
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I think it is more about JR than Love or TT. Here is one article that speculates about the situation: Miami Heat Rumors: Dwyane Wade, LeBron James Could Reunite If JR Smith Leaves Cleveland Cavaliers
Miami Heat stalwart Dwyane Wade has agreed to meet with a bevy of suitors while contract negotiations with the Heat have stalled. One very intriguing option for the three-time NBA champion is a reunion with his banana boat buddy LeBron James in Ohio.
The Cleveland Cavaliers are fresh off their first NBA title, but Cavs general manager David Griffin and company aren’t taking their collective foot off the gas pedal. Rumor has it, the team is looking to strengthen its roster by adding Wade.
Forbes noted that Wade could see the Cavaliers as his only real shot at winning another championship or two before he retires from the NBA. The 34-year-old Chicago native is approaching his 14th season in the league and isn’t getting any younger.
Dwyane Wade to Replace JR Smith in The Land?
Numerous knee problems slowed down the All-Star guard in the past, but showed a resurgence in the 2015-16 season. He averaged 19.0 points, 4.6 assists and 4.1 rebounds per game.
Despite Wade’s age and attrition, the Cavaliers would no doubt be a scarier team with him aboard. However, the Dwyane Wade to Cavaliers scenario still depends on what will happen to JR Smith in free agency.
For his timely contributions during the team’s successful championship run this past season, the sharp-shooting guard is groomed for a large pay increase this offseason. Many expect Smith to re-sign with the Cavaliers, but there’s still a chance the mercurial scorer may choose to leave.
Smith might leave the Cavaliers to play for a team who will offer him more playing time and a bigger paycheck. There’s no guarantee Smith will be have the same minutes he had last year once Iman Shumpert returns healthy next season.
As of the moment, the Cavaliers have many mouths to feed and aren’t as financially flexible as the Sacramento Kings and Philadelphia 76ers. Both teams are in dire need of an explosive shooting guard and are eager to pay handsomely for Smith’s services.
If Smith decides to leave, the Cavaliers must act quickly to lure in Wade. Miami Herald reported that aside from Cleveland and Miami, other teams that have been granted a meeting with Wade. The Chicago Bulls, Denver Nuggets, Milwaukee Bucks and the Dallas Mavericks are also eyeing the veteran guard.
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Before any of that happens, barring a sign-n-trade that Miami would facilitate for us, money needs to match up because Wade isn't on this team as he goes into FA, unlike JR. I don't think we can just sign Wade to whatever deal we want to (outside the mid-level) without moving contracts, regardless of what JR Smith does.
I don't think Forbes is even addressing that issue, which seems ironic. But again, my assessment of the situation could be wrong.
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To do that, however, Wade would have to take a massive pay cut, even from what the Heat is offering, given that the Cavs currently have just a salary slot worth about $3.5 million to offer him. Miami, on the other hand, has recently raised its offer to $40 million for two seasons, while Wade is seeking (per ESPN’s Brian Windhorst) a $50 million deal. Here's one snippet from an article that mentions one of the scenarios. I'm assuming the $3.5 is the exception. So it's not closer to $4M.
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Ray Allen's reps recently reached out to Warriors about possibility of Allen joining Golden State, per @Chris_Broussard. Come one, come all. Of course he did. His ass is just chapped he decided to stay home and not sign with Cleveland during the playoff run. OR Chris Broussard is just getting trolled again by his sources.
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Allen's Rep reaches out to Warriors AND Cavs Ray Allen may soon be making his long-awaited return to the NBA. The 40-year-old's representatives have reached out to the Golden State Warriors and Cleveland Cavaliers, according to multiple reports, informing both teams that their client is interested in a comeback.Allen would reportedly also listen to offers from the Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio Spurs. While Allen has not played in two years, he never officially retired, and is technically still an unrestricted free agent. Allen spent time with the Milwaukee Bucks, Boston Celtics, Seattle SuperSonics, and Miami Heat over 18 NBA seasons. The UConn product has averaged 18.9 points, 4.1 rebounds, and 3.4 assists throughout his career, and owns the record for the most 3-pointers made all time. It remains to be seen what Allen has left in the tank, but the word around the league is that he's remained in great shape since last playing for the Heat.
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I just don't see this deal happening. If it did, it would mean the following scenarios. (1) Lebron would need to make a huge pay cut, which he already said he won't. (2) Wade would need to accept our mid-level exception (about $4M). I don't see that happening unless he wants a ring that bad and want to give Pat Riley the middle finger. (3) If option 1 and 2 are out, you'd have to trade Kevin Love. That's how you'd make the money work. Personally, that's not something I want to do to get 1/2 years from a 35 year old guard. He's slowed down dramatically and his defense, which would be critical against a team like GS has dropped significantly. Maybe Tristan Thompson would be another trade target but I'm not sure the money fits unless you add someone else?? Still, as much as I'm not a fan of the TT contract, it still makes sense to keep that over a Wade rental, IMO. I could be wrong, and please correct me if I am, but I think these are the only realistic scenarios Cleveland has to pick up Wade. And collateral damage could see JR leaving the team. I don't see this happening. It doesn't matter if Lebron takes a paycut or not. We are well over the cap. There are really only TWO scenarios where we get Wade: 1) He signes the $3.5M taxpayer's mid-level exception. He's currently asking for $25M/2yr from Miami, so the only reason he does that is because it's a big eff you to Miami. I really don't see him doing that. 2) Miami does some sort of sign and trade with Cleveland to facilitate the trade, where salaries match up. This gets a little trickier. Wade would have to essentially say, "I'm going to sign the MLE with Cleveland, so either you facilitate a sign-and-trade, or you get nothing." In which case, Miami can just as easily say, "Fine, enjoy your $3.5M, we're not doing it". But if Miami does agree to do something, then it boils down to who or what we trade and the value of their contract. We could technically trade our Trade Exception, worth $10M with a couple of draft picks or something. In that case, Wade would get a $10M a year contract (another huge paycut). We could trade them Kevin Love at $20M a year, and Wade could sign at $20M. Or we could throw in a few other players with Love and get closer to the $25M Wade wants. If the salaries match up, and Miami wants to do the deal (big if), then it could happen.
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We're not going to trade Kevin Love for Dwyane Wade. wtf. Even Ray Farmer would know that's a bad trade.
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I know you guys are just going through the technical possibilities on the Wade thing. I just have no interest in giving up much to get him. If he signed for the MLE I'd be ecstatic, but that's a huge long shot.
Ray Allen: his opportunity to come back was during the 14-15 season, heck maybe even last season. He'll be 41 soon and having sat out two full seasons, I don't see how he can contribute much anymore.
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Thanks for providing the clarification. I should have been more clear in my original post. Mentioning the trade of Kevin Love was assumed to be a part of any sign/trade deal.
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What about a sign snd trade :
Wade $20 million per year
Trade exemption (assuming the $10 million is correct)
Shumpert ($10 million)
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What about a sign snd trade :
Wade $20 million per year
Trade exemption (assuming the $10 million is correct)
Shumpert ($10 million)
You can't combine the trade exemption with anything else to get a player of higher value. The TE can only be used for a player of equal or lesser value. That's why I say if he signs for $10 mil, we could use the TE straight up. If he wants $20mil+ then we'd be looking at trading Kevin Love as he's the only one outside of Lebron that has a contract close enough to match that.
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I hope Wade signs with the Nuggets. Get him to the West to make the East even weaker.
I wouldn't mind him coming off our bench, but I just don't see it happening. $20-25M is a lot of money.
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If Wade wants to sign on for the MLE. Sure, go ahead..
Beyond that? No thanks.
We actually have a solid core of younger players. Please don't ruin that trying to "catch up" with GS who could lose KD (maybe more) after this season..
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What about a sign snd trade :
Wade $20 million per year
Trade exemption (assuming the $10 million is correct)
Shumpert ($10 million)
You can't combine the trade exemption with anything else to get a player of higher value. The TE can only be used for a player of equal or lesser value. That's why I say if he signs for $10 mil, we could use the TE straight up. If he wants $20mil+ then we'd be looking at trading Kevin Love as he's the only one outside of Lebron that has a contract close enough to match that. Love for Wade: Cavs say no TE for Wade: Miami says no This isn't even getting into what salary Wade would be willing to take in Cleveland vs Miami. This is a dead end IMO.
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Love for Wade: Cavs say no
TE for Wade: Miami says no
This isn't even getting into what salary Wade would be willing to take in Cleveland vs Miami. This is a dead end IMO. Probably right. However, Wade does have a little bit of leverage with the MLE. He can technically sign that and Miami would be left with nothing. If they agree to sign-and-trade for the Exception, then they would at least get a trade exception, and possibly some draft picks for their troubles. It wouldn't cost them anything extra. The only reason they wouldn't do that would be to spite Wade and make him take the MLE. Even when Lebron bolted to Miami, we ended up doing a sign-and-trade to give him a little better deal in Miami. We ended up getting a few draft assets and a Trade Exception (I believe).
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What about a sign snd trade :
Wade $20 million per year
Trade exemption (assuming the $10 million is correct)
Shumpert ($10 million)
You can't combine the trade exemption with anything else to get a player of higher value. The TE can only be used for a player of equal or lesser value. That's why I say if he signs for $10 mil, we could use the TE straight up. If he wants $20mil+ then we'd be looking at trading Kevin Love as he's the only one outside of Lebron that has a contract close enough to match that. Bummer but thanks for the information.
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Love for Wade: Cavs say no
TE for Wade: Miami says no
This isn't even getting into what salary Wade would be willing to take in Cleveland vs Miami. This is a dead end IMO. Probably right. However, Wade does have a little bit of leverage with the MLE. He can technically sign that and Miami would be left with nothing. If they agree to sign-and-trade for the Exception, then they would at least get a trade exception, and possibly some draft picks for their troubles. It wouldn't cost them anything extra. The only reason they wouldn't do that would be to spite Wade and make him take the MLE. Even when Lebron bolted to Miami, we ended up doing a sign-and-trade to give him a little better deal in Miami. We ended up getting a few draft assets and a Trade Exception (I believe). meh Miami has offered Wade 2 yrs/$40 million. Wade wants 2 yrs/$50 million. If signing with another team for 1 yr/$3.5 million is leverage, it is a really, really small amount of leverage. I don't think anybody has ever left that much money on the table on a per season basis-- not Tim Duncan, Dirk Nowitzki, or David West. Also it's debatable whether Miami would even want the Trade exception. The cap just spiked more than 30% since last season and teams are scrambing to spend insane money on average players. One of the reasons the Heat lost LeBron in the first place is that the owner did not want to go deep in the luxury tax and that is when they had a super team in place. I doubt he would want to spend the extra money when neither LeBron nor Wade are there (this is in addition to trading away the face of the franchise and perhaps the most important player in franchise history to their Eastern conference rivals). For the sign and trade for Lebron, the Cavs received two first round picks and two second round picks, the right to swap picks in another draft, along with a traded player exception at a time when that exception was more valuable. It was under very different circumstances. He also could have just signed outright with Miami and wouldn't have given up much money on a per-year basis although I don't remember the exact details on that.
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Looks like Wade is off the table for us. It was too far fetched from the start.
But we do need to figure out some other options. Based on reports we are trying to get better, longer wings (tried to get Trevor Ariza)
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 41m41 minutes ago
Sources: Dwyane Wade is pushing for a resolution on his future tonight: Miami, Chicago or Denver. Pat Riley wants an answer too.
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 13m13 minutes ago
Pending Chicago's belief they have deal to clear cap space, Dwyane Wade is nearing commitment to sign with Bulls, sources tell @TheVertical
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 9m9 minutes ago
Dwyane Wade has informed the Bulls he plans to sign a deal with them, sources tell @TheVertical. Bulls sending out contracts now.
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 8m8 minutes ago
Sources: The Bulls are working to complete deals to trade Jose Calderon and Mike Dunleavy to help clear space for Wade.
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so wade says screw Pat Riley
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Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 13m13 minutes ago
Pending Chicago's belief they have deal to clear cap space, Dwyane Wade is nearing commitment to sign with Bulls, sources tell @TheVertical
Rondo, Wade, Butler That's the worst 3 point shooting back court I've ever seen,
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but they go hard in the paint. They're gonna have to, because teams are gonna run a 2-3 zone against them all season.
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Cavs are in talks to acquire Dunleavy & Calderon is likely to land in Brooklyn. (via @ESPNSteinLine, @WindhorstESPN) pic.twitter.com/4AUPkGS3Pa 6m
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