After losing backup center Timofey Mozgov to the Los Angeles Lakers, the Cleveland Cavaliers are close to adding veteran center Chris Andersen.
The news comes from head coach Tyronn Lue, who says that the Cavs have already signed the center.
Follow Chris Haynes ✔ @ChrisBHaynes Tyronn Lue went on NBATV, saying #Cavs signed free agent Chris "Birdman" Andersen. I'm told a deal isn't complete, but team hopes to close. 6:47 PM - 8 Jul 2016 301 301 Retweets 198 198 likes However, some sources are claiming that the news is a bit premature.
Follow Dave McMenamin ✔ @mcten According to a team source, the Cavs are "working on" signing Chris "Birdman" Andersen, as Ty Lue alluded to on @NBATV 6:59 PM - 8 Jul 2016 317 317 Retweets 342 342 likes Andersen, who turned 38 on Thursday, averaged 4.6 points and 4.5 rebounds in 20 games with the Memphis Grizzlies last season. The veteran has played for the Denver Nuggets, New Orleans Hornets, Miami Heat and Grizzlies over the course of his 15-year career.
One key component that may have led to “Birdman’s” arrival in Cleveland is his relationship with superstar Finals MVP LeBron James. The two spent a couple of years together in Miami, including the Heat’s 2013 championship season.
Heat beat reporter Ira Winderman of the Sun Sentinel immediately pointed to the close relationship after the news broke out.
Follow Ira Winderman @IraHeatBeat Birdman to the LeBrons makes all the sense in the world. Loved playing alongside him with Heat. 6:56 PM - 8 Jul 2016 39 39 Retweets 55 55 likes Although Andersen is 38, the center will likely play a solid role off the bench in the absence of Mozgov. His high energy and prior experience with James will come in handy for a Cavs team looking to defend their reign next season.
hopefully we get JR signed though. We can't afford to lose anything
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
Isn't it odd that a bunch of nobodies got a ton of FA money and JR wasn't offered a contract by anyone yet?
As I've heard many people say, it's all about timing in FA.
He likely could get a little more, but I think he's waiting on CLE
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
Isn't it odd that a bunch of nobodies got a ton of FA money and JR wasn't offered a contract by anyone yet?
As I've heard many people say, it's all about timing in FA.
He likely could get a little more, but I think he's waiting on CLE
Maybe there is a reason that Cleveland is waiting to re-sign him. Perhaps there are cap considerations to take into account.
I also think that JR's past still follows him. He has been a great teammate here, but how many teams have Lebron James to keep him in line? Further, Smith has said that the lack of a NY style nightlife has helped him here. I would think that teams from places like NY, Chicago, LA, and so forth, would take this into account.
I think that it's likely that JR really wants to stay here, and that it's also possible that we have an agreement on the general shape of a deal, but have not hammered out all of the details.
One thing seems certain. JR turned down his $5.4 million player's option, and I would think that he doubles that salary, at the least. I think that he returns to Cleveland on something like a 3 year deal, worth somewhere around $35-38 million ... maybe with an option for a 4th year. That's just my guess.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
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Isn't it odd that a bunch of nobodies got a ton of FA money and JR wasn't offered a contract by anyone yet?
As I've heard many people say, it's all about timing in FA.
He likely could get a little more, but I think he's waiting on CLE
Maybe there is a reason that Cleveland is waiting to re-sign him. Perhaps there are cap considerations to take into account.
I also think that JR's past still follows him. He has been a great teammate here, but how many teams have Lebron James to keep him in line? Further, Smith has said that the lack of a NY style nightlife has helped him here. I would think that teams from places like NY, Chicago, LA, and so forth, would take this into account.
I think that it's likely that JR really wants to stay here, and that it's also possible that we have an agreement on the general shape of a deal, but have not hammered out all of the details.
One thing seems certain. JR turned down his $5.4 million player's option, and I would think that he doubles that salary, at the least. I think that he returns to Cleveland on something like a 3 year deal, worth somewhere around $35-38 million ... maybe with an option for a 4th year. That's just my guess.
I agree. I think he re-signs here for about that too. Around $10 million per year.
IIRC, his salary would basically be tacked on to our luxury tax number, not necessarily our cap number. So it's basically what Gilbert is willing to pay him?
I also agree about his past following him. He doesn't have a large market because he's still viewed as somewhat unreliable and a headcase. JMO
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
I also agree about his past following him. He doesn't have a large market because he's still viewed as somewhat unreliable and a headcase. JMO
Walking around without a shirt after and the days after winning the title didn't exactly help his case. LOL.
haha yeah good point
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
Well I've been in ohio the last week dealing with crap, been hit or miss keeping up with all the FA stuff going on. Looks like the cavs arent doing much in the first go round. Not surprised about Delly/mosov, i said they'd be gone for sure, especially with all the money getting thrown around. Not sure I would have wasted money on dunleavey, dude was bad last year and just coming off a back surgery. We needed to get younger on the bench. I guess we'll see how it plays out, not alot of money we can play with, I think thats the biggest reason GS has been able to get all the good FA, they managed their cap well and were withing 1 game of a repeat, the safe money is on them this year. But there is only one ball, i'm not sure how well that will work out with 4 people needing the ball. Looks like we lost quinn cook too, that kinda sucks, i thought he'd be the natural successor to be backup PG, hopefully the drafted kid plays well, i also like McRae too. We have a ton of PGs
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Colin Cowherd made an interesting comment. He said Durant chose the Warriors and not an eastern conference team because he wanted to avoid Lebron. It'd make sense considering Lebron is the boogeyman of the eastern conference.
He isn't avoiding Lebron at all. With the East being weak, LeBron will be waiting for him in the Finals. Assuming that's what Durant is doing, he's only delaying the inevitable.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
Not sure I would have wasted money on dunleavey, dude was bad last year and just coming off a back surgery. We needed to get younger on the bench.
We can't really get younger though. We have no money and no draft picks. So our options are: Guys we can draft in the backend of the second round (Felder) or D-League level guys that we hope can contribute (McRae).
Not sure I would have wasted money on dunleavey, dude was bad last year and just coming off a back surgery. We needed to get younger on the bench.
We can't really get younger though. We have no money and no draft picks. So our options are: Guys we can draft in the backend of the second round (Felder) or D-League level guys that we hope can contribute (McRae).
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yeah we need to find our whiteside, felder looks promising though but I dont think he will contribute much this year, i think it will be kyrie/mo, unless an injury happens and McRae comes up, who sparked some last year. I really think we'll see a small trade or two. i think we have some trade exceptions left. I'd like to find another 5 and some backup for Lebron, I don't think we can count on RJ giving big minutes this year, and i'm not sure I'd want him to, i'd like to rest him to give us meaningful minutes in playoffs.
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
The problem is that he really doesn't have market value elsewhere, so it's not like he can really threaten to leave. The Cavs can lowball him and they know he has no other options.
He works for the Cavs because he has a role, the winning keeps him happy, and Lebron and the other Vets can keep him on the straight and narrow. Just about everywhere else, he's at risk for being a loose cannon.
Evidently "Chuck" has been traded 3 times by NBA teams despite never having been on an NBA team.
He is a 25 year old PF, who was originally a late 2nd round pick by the Lakers.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Kind of a random thought about Lebron. Richard Jefferson showed glimpses of the elite athleticism he used to have and he's currently 36. At what age does a guy like Lebron look average by NBA standards? I honestly think he won't be average athletically until his 40's. Now I'm not suggesting he'll play that long, but I think the reports of his athletic demise have been exaggerated over the years. Just watch his block on Iggy. That was NOT normal NBA play.
Lebron keeps himself in such great shape, and his body is not a normal NBA body. His muscle mass appears to be so dense, but he is still incredibly flexible. He can still take off from downtown to "throw the hammer down". (sorry, I was having an AC moment) Plus, and this is so important, Lebron loves this game with all of his heart. He is the greatest player of his generation, and he still puts in the work. He doesn't get lazy. He knows how to take care of his body. He is a SF who can physically impose his will on opposing PF.
He really is one of a kind, and I think that he'll play, at a high level, for as long as he wants.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
was hoping the cavs could win last night in the summer league so I could watch them again. Bulls were very tough the past few weeks and pulled it out
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
I feel like people place too much emphasis on the regular season. Just let Lebron do what he wants during the regular season. This team just proved they can flip the switch when they need to. They did some things that have NEVER been done before in the playoffs.
Jordan McRae made All-NBA First Team for the Summer League ... and he's on the end of the bench for us.
I can see him getting some minutes this year. He can really shoot/score. Not a great defender or versatile, but he can score
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday. -John Wayne
And if we really need to lock down an opposing PG while Kyrie is on the bench, we can bring Shump in and Lebron can handle the "point forward" spot.
One of the things I really like about this team is that we have a ton of versatility with these guys.
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
Considering that's what Mozgov got, it's not a bad deal. My only worry is that if he gets paid, he'll get complacent. The Cavs have a bit of leverage in knowing that JR probably isn't going to get anywhere close that anywhere else. And if he does, he's probably going to be in a situation where he's losing more than he's winning.
Shump got $10 million, and JR has completely outplayed him.
Delly got $13 million/year. Mozgov got an average of $16 million/year. Wade got $47 million over 2 years. Tyler Johnson, with all of 68 games experience, got 4 years and $50 million. Austin Rivers got 3 years and $35 million. Harrison Barnes got 4 years and $94 millions. Dwight Howard got $70.5 million over 3 years. Evan Turner got 4 years and $70 million. Allen Crabbe got $75 million over 4 years. Tyler Johnson got 4 years and $50 million, for Pete's sake. There were a ton of really insane deals this off-season. (and I am not saying that every one of these examples is insane ..... but most are pretty close)
JR at $15 million/year is probably about right, and maybe even a bit of a bargain. (though I think that we'll be able to get him for slightly less than that) Hopefully we don't go more than 3 years, though. (or a team option for a 4th)
Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.
John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
whatever JR's salary is going to be is straight from the luxury tax, so I don't really care what he's paid ... I anticipate him getting 15
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Jeudy is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Tillman is flanked out wide to the right. Judkins and Ford are split in the backfield as Flacco takes the snap ... Here we go."
At what age does a guy like Lebron look average by NBA standards? I honestly think he won't be average athletically until his 40's.
LeBron's game is going to need to evolve and they are going to have to use him wisely, reducing his minutes when they can.
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Just watch his block on Iggy. That was NOT normal NBA play.
There are 50 guys in the NBA who could have physically made that block. LeBron's advantage on a play like that is his instincts to be in the right place and to time his jump correctly and his will in that moment to not give up on the play.
I agree, just pay JR and move on. Compared to Delly and other recent contracts, ~$15/yr is a good amount for him and us. Hopefully it's only 2 year with an option for a 3rd, but we'll see.
My phone just buzzed an update that LeBron notified the Cavaliers that he intends to re-sign. I know he said he wasn't going anywhere else during the parade, but I guess he never formally told the team. Maybe he was just trying to make Gilbert sweat it out a little (and waiting to see if they'll pay JR too).
On a side topic, anybody have any cool Cavs related merchandise purchases? I bought this shirt the night they won:
I got this one from Homage.com just recently:
That's it so far.
“...Iguodala to Curry, back to Iguodala, up for the layup! Oh! Blocked by James! LeBron James with the rejection!”
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