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Don't do it NDC!!! That's how they get you to convert!! Don't answer the door to guys like him on bicycles!!

Peen,
How have you been doing? Man, before inviting Anthony Sabado Jr to talk, the repubs should have called you up there!!

Hell, think about it, Anthony Sabado Jr??? What rock did they dig him up from?? I mean you have to really be checking under alot of rocks to find him!!

BTW - I always thought Kasich SHOULD have gotten in earlier because he would have had a chance. He was the one repub I thought could easily win if people heard him. But he got in TOO LATE. By that time the crazy train was in full effect.

I think it's a bit disrespectful that kasich didn't show up ONLY because this is his state.

LOL.. you are TOO Funny!!.. But one thing I have learned in my years is that I can come to an agreement with people who atleast are willing to listen!

If you gave me 10 repubs who will listen, 9 dems, and myself, I could do the work of 435 congressmen/women and get some things done!

Swish....I go out of my way to see the views of people. DC and I go back long before you were ever here. I consider him a friend who doesn't show up enough. I trust he feels the same. We have at minimum been able to have honest conversations and gained, IMO, mutual respect.

Look, Swish....I don't agree with everything about the conservatives. I have no problem with gays. The "trans" hold some problem, because there are freaks out there who can slide in to womens changings rooms, claiming to be a trans.

I am against illegals.....do it legal.....I do think abortion is wrong, but it is what it is....men should be give the right to abort just as womwn can.....a different discussion.

I do agree with Trump, as it stands today, we need to put a hold on Muslimns entering the country. You served. You know a enemy...the problem is they aren't in uniform anymore. We need to get a grip on the situation or we end up like France.


If I have my way, we don't end up that way.


As far as economics and jobs, the dems don't have a clue. You can't mandate wages. It doesn't work. It might work for 10-20 years, but after that, your done. Why did the USSR fail and we didn't?

Before we start, i want to clarify that the bicycle comment was a joke. anyway, here we go:



Thats cool. whatever. It was a joke. NDC got it, i apologize that i didn't make it clear enough. i never had a problem with you peen.



that's cool. i already said my peace about trans. let's not get into again before i start seeing bible verses.



you should already know my stance on illegal immigration, even though its more center right than right like you. abortion, again you already know my stance.

the only thing i have to say is you better be talking about these illegal eastern europeans, who are also decently populated in this country, as well as asians.

because your ideology never mentions those kinds of people. just the brown ones.

(in before YTown starts defending the illegal whites with the "overstay passport" excuse)



and this is where we differ. I hope you understand, even if you dont agree, why i can't possibly support a stance like that. you're basically saying i shouldn't be allowed to protect my family in Turkey and bring them here if something goes down simply because of their religion. even though they are a country that has a really good system, and no complaints about vetting could possibly be made.

how about this: i'll support a ban on muslims when Trump and other republicans start deporting the westboro baptist members and other hardcore religious nuts who practice christianity. deal?



your way? i disagree. thats your opinion. your way will create even more hate and attacks. IMO of course. but if that's your goal, sure, lets ban muslims.



right. because kansas, Louisiana, Winsconsin, and other states ran by republicans are bright shining examples on how economies should work, right?

mandate a minimum wage isn't a bad thing. i don't understand how you could be opposed to the minimum wage rising with the cost of living in this country. 15 bucks an hour is dumb. 10, where it's suppose to be, isn't dumb.

the USSR failed for a crap ton of reasons. you're smarter than the try and give a simple solution to a complex problem.

please don't fall into that trap.

Because I believe in what he wants to do to level the playing field.

I believe in smart EPA Laws (not every one), spending on Education, Prison reform, Medicare for all (would save a bunch of money), and taxing the rich/wall street more.

I don't think we need a military ten times bigger (more expensive) than every other country in the world. I'd happily cut that spending in half.

I don't think we should throw so much money at other countries in "foreign aid" (most of it is like blackmail for favors).

I hate the trade agreements and want strong tariffs to level the playing field.

I'd like to see serious reforms to welfare. I think welfare should be a hand up, not a hand out. I'd like to see veterans and the elderly get more in benefits.

I'd cut the budget for the war on drugs (national funding, not international).

I'd like to see every able bodied adult go through basic military training (as reservist) and do two years of community or military service to pay for their educations.

I'd like to revisit every law on the books and determine if they serve "the people" or the few and eliminate or rewrite any law that does not serve the people.

I'd like laws to limit the influence of money in politics at every level. I'd like special laws to govern the greed of corporations and wall street that would with strict enforced criminal punishments for all involved when the laws are broke.

heeeeeeelllllllll no.

I don't agree with Paul Ryan's beliefs or politics, but he is giving a very good speech at the RNC. He's killing the left on some points.

Just as a talking point, I don't want illegal Canadians( they are mostly white folks) to be here....do it legal. My point is I don't think I have ever simply pointed out dark skinned people.


We are all people of color. Some of us are as dark as my unlit cell phone screen, some as white as the styrofoam cup I now have in my hand.


I did say we need to get a grip on the issue of Muslim immigration..not stop it....simply not just take in thousands without a firm vetting process. We can't do it man. We can't let in tens of thousands of people without knowing who we are letting in the gate.

still a sell out.

my problems with him use to be pure policy based.

now that he sold out his morals with Trump, i can't even.

Thats fine. but say syrian refugee then. i don't know why thats like trying to pull teeth. Syrian refugee's.

but your boy is saying all muslims.

so i find it funny how you guys tell me on this board that i'm not suppose to lump all cops together, but less than what? .05 percent of muslims commit terrorist acts, yet you're cool with stopping the entire demographic?

my problem, specifically with conservatives- including you bro, straight up- is that i have to play by some set standard, yet you can turn around and support a policy that places everybody in the same sheets.

So if you only meant syrian refugee's. cool. i have my own idea about it, but i can't really argue that.

but you literally just said you support trump with banning all muslims earlier. i can't get behind that. i will not ban any broad demographic, regardless of skin tone or religious belief, based off fear.

i said this last year and in 2014 and in 2013 when i joined this board. when we start changing our way of life, our constitution, and our american values off of fear, the terrorist win.

so far, they have been winning.

so you can say you don't want to turn into france. But right now, their leader shows more patriotism for his country compared to that of ours. he said that french people will not give up their values for terrorist.

if that's what you're willing to do, then we have nothing further to discuss.

Chris Christie...blah blah blah. Tell us about Trumps policies. We all know Hilliary is a crooked liar, we dont need reminding.

Evidently we do because a lot of people plan on voting for her.

Those people probably arent watching the rnc.

Y'all boy Carson sounds like he wants a theocracy.

What is with the soap opera people?

That drama.

Republican Party should rename themselves TNT.

American Muslims For Trump.

Wat.

I thought they knew comedy.

Uhm, I'm not sure this even is a Muslim prayer?

Also, a woman says a man knows more how to fix women's problems more than an actual woman?

What is this train wreck? Anymore plagiarism today? I've been riding roller coasters all day.

Yo this is hilarious. I really should've smoked before watching this.

I should have smoked with you because I dont know what I just saw.

I dont think you can compare Melania to Michelle. One is a mail order bride, one is not.

Eve yo you HAVE to see these memes on social media. It's a straight roast fest.

Oh I am sure people are having fun with that one lol

Aside from her hair, she looked good back then. And yeah she's quite a bit smarter than Donald's latest airhead wife.

Damn. I'm done with the internet lol

Ok I am feeling bad for the Muslims for Trump guy. Fox News pretended to interview him and totally railroaded him and wouldnt let him speak. They went off on a tangent with some rhetoric. Disgraceful.

I agree with this, especially when he was one of those who insisted that Trump pinkie swear to support the nominee. I get it that it stung that he lost pretty badly. I get it that an outsider won. but still, if you are part of the Republican Party, then support your party. I don't see how he can ever run on the national level ever again.

I am not a Trump fan, but Kasich not showing up for the convention of your party, held in your state, is really disrespectful to both the party and his state.

Donald Jr. forgot to attribute a source to a metaphor about American education being broken. I wonder if Trump got to where he is by stealing other people's work? Heck, his "university" stole money.

What plagiarized statements will come tomorrow?

Top 10 Cases of Plagiarizing Democrats




by Joel B. Pollak 19 Jul 2016




Melania Trump — or her speechwriters — stand accused of plagiarizing several lines from First Lady Michelle Obama’s 2008 Democratic National Convention speech (which was itself accused of lifting lines from Saul Alinsky).
When Democrats do the same — or worse — the political damage tends to be far worse, since a significant proportion of the media can be counted upon to distill the “larger truth” of whatever it was they are trying to say. Even for Democrats, however, excuses do run out.





Here are the top 10 most serious cases of Democratic plagiarism, among contemporary political figures:


10. Rep. Ami Bera (D-CA). The California doctor and congressman admitted borrowing lines in an op-ed in the Sacramento Bee pushing for fast-track negotiating authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP). Buzzfeed, which made the initial catch, noted that Bera had borrowed heavily from Obama administration talking points and from pro-business sources.

9. Sen. John Walsh (D-MT): Walsh retired in 2014 after youthful plagiarism was uncovered. The New York Times reported: “His withdrawal from the race comes about two weeks after The New York Times reported that in 2007 Mr. Walsh plagiarized large sections of the final paper he completed to earn his master’s degree at the prestigious Army War College in Carlisle, Pa.”

8. Mary Burke, candidate for WI governor. The Democrats’ 2014 nominee against incumbent Republican Scott Walker was caught by Buzzfeed: “Large portions of Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial candidate Mary Burke’s jobs plan for Wisconsin appear to be copied directly from the plans of three Democratic candidates who ran for governor in previous election cycles.”

7. Susan Wismer, candidate for SD governor. In another catch for Buzzfeed‘s Andrew Kaczynski, South Dakota’s 2014 Democratic nominee was caught borrowing campaign materials — including, ironically, biographical material from Mary Burke of Wisconsin (#8 above), who herself faced plagiarism accusations in the same election cycle, just days before.




6. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA). The liberal firebrand from Harvard, whose claims to Native American ancestry have never been authenticated, contributed several recipes to a cookbook called Pow Wow Chow in the 1980s. In 2012, it emerged that several of those recipes appeared to have been stolen from the New York Times — and were French, not Native American.

5. Sen. John Kerry (D-MA). The current Secretary of State faced several accusations of plagiarism during his 2004 presidential campaign, including the claim that he copied several passages in his 2007 book from other sources, and speculation that he may have stolen a campaign trail “memory” from Hillary Clinton’s memoir of the 1992 election.

4. Michelle Obama. Though the accusation never found traction in the mainstream media, the aspiring First Lady appeared to have lifted phrases from Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radical — a classic primer on community organizing — and attributed them to her husband. It is conceivable that Obama, an accused plagiarizer himself (see below), passed them off as his own.

3. Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE). Biden’s 1988 presidential aspirations were destroyed after it emerged that he borrowed heavily from British Labour Party politician Neal Kinnock — not just Kinnock’s words, but his biographical details. He was also found to have plagiarized in law school. Biden still made it to the top — or near the top — on charm and sheer perseverance.

2. Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY). The 2008 and 2016 presidential candidate was accused, both times, of plagiarizing others’ lines — and her own. Most recently, she was accused by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) of stealing his talking points, partly in an effort to convince left-wing voters that there was no distance between the two. Her effort inspired a hashtag: #StealtheBern.

1. Barack Obama. The supposedly great orator was caught lifting the major refrain, “Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” from Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, his friend and fellow Harvard Law graduate. The irony of arguing for the importance of words, and then borrowing those words without attribution, was a sign of just how empty so many of those words really were.

Kasich... The only man that ran who made both Trump AND Hillary look good.