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Several dead in Munich shopping centre shooting

Munich (Germany) (AFP) - Several people were killed on Friday in a shooting rampage in a Munich shopping centre and the attacker or attackers are still at large, police said.

The Bild newspaper reported that a gunman ran through the mall near the Olympic stadium in the southern German city, firing on several people before fleeing in the direction of a nearby metro station.

"There are several dead and injured," a Munich police spokeswoman told AFP, adding that the shooting had started shortly before 1600 GMT at a McDonald's restaurant.

"The attacker, or several attackers, are apparently still at large."

Europe has been on alert for terrorism in the wake of a string of attacks including bombings in neighbouring France and Belgium.

The OEZ shopping centre was surrounded by armed police who were hunting for the attacker, while a helicopter flew overhead.

"There is a major police operation under way in the shopping centre," Munich police said on Twitter, urging people to avoid the area.

Emergency vehicles were seen in the streets outside, as shoppers rushed away from the mall, some carrying children in their arms.

"Attention -- avoid the neighbourhood around the OEZ. Stay in your homes. Leave the street," the Munich police tweet said.

Germany has so far escaped the kind of large-scale jihadist attacks seen in neighbouring France.

- Axe rampage -

But the shooting comes just days after a teenage asylum seeker went on a rampage with an axe and a knife on a regional train in Germany on Monday, injuring five people, two of them critically.

One victim is still fighting for his life, the hospital treating him said Friday.

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere said the teenager was believed to be a "lone wolf" attacker who appeared to have been "inspired" by the Islamic State group but was not a member of the jihadist network.

Authorities said he shouted "Allahu akbar" (God is greatest) three times as he ran through the carriage slashing passengers on the train near the southern city of Wuerzburg.

The attacker is believed to be either Afghan or Pakistani and investigators are still trying to determine his identity.

The train rampage triggered calls by politicians in Bavaria, of which Munich is the capital, to impose an upper limit on the number of refugees coming into the country.

The assailant had arrived as an unaccompanied minor in Germany in June 2015 and had been staying with a foster family in the region of the attack for the last two weeks.

A record 1.1 million migrants and refugees were let in to Germany last year, with Syrians making up the largest group followed by Afghans.

In the latest attack in France, 31-year-old Mohamed Lahouaiej Bouhlel used a truck to mow down 84 people, including children, in the Riviera city of Nice last week.

It was the third major attack on French soil in the past 18 months, after the jihadist carnage in Paris in November and the shootings at satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and a kosher supermarket in January 2015.

In March, Islamic State-claimed suicide bomb attacks at Brussels airport and a city metro station left 32 people dead.

In May in Germany, a mentally unstable 27-year-old man carried out a knife attack on a regional train in the south of the country , killing one person and injuring three others.

Hopefully everybody who's injured makes it.

I hope the injured are ok... but just so I'm clear, there is no current link between these events and jihadist terrorists, but 2/3 of the article is about other jihadist terrorist attacks? Am I reading that correctly?

I'm not saying it's true or proven, but, one most wonder if the allowing all the Syrian refugees is making attacks like this easier to plan and execute?

This is most likely a terrorist attack. We'll likely know for sure by end day.

This is just getting crazy now..

An eyewitness told CNN that a shooter yelled "Allahu Akbar" and targeted children.

https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/756576588020473856

What a crazy, messed up world we live in.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/22/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

So it was an Iranian German who did the attack.

Something I've kind of wondered about, how long before other terrorist groups start "upping" their game to steal support from ISIS?

Good question.

What I'm noticing is that a lot of smaller terrorist groups are trying to actually get endorsed by ISIS.

It's interesting seeing the other "established" terrorist groups beefing with ISIS.

Just a complete cluster.

You know how those "Gangs" are always having turf wars.

Yep. which is why more and more are starting to view these groups as more political than religious.

Who controls the land, resources, people, money flow, government.

Religion is the back drop. It's definitely part of the problem.

As far as this incident

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/23/europe/germany-munich-shooting/

Born and raised in Germany. Zero ties to any refugee group. No group like ISIS has claimed responsibility.

And apparently this kid was bullied a lot. Police are noticing the correlation in the victims, all between the ages of 14-21.

Still a terrorist incident, but doesn't look like it's tied to anybody.

Its probably just a weird coincidence that he was of Iranian descent and shouting "Allahu Akhbar" while shooting.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1489631/wi...hopping-centre/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/explosion-near-minority-hazara-demonstration-kabul-police-103714746.html

Ugh. This is the part where there is the potential "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"

We're already fighting the taliban. That ISIS rolled up into Afghanistan on their turf and did this?

War.

If I'm a us commander, I'm falling back. Taliban Vs ISIS? It's gonna get ugly. Fall back, let them go at it, then start picking they asses off after the battle.

I thought Germany had tough gun control as does France.

We need to get out of there and let them all fight it out. Six months in the terror attacks on the US and Allies would stop. Only downside is the innocent deaths to their civilians and dealing with whatever group eventually comes to power. Since the US is exporting oil, we apparently don't need their oil so what interests are left to protect? The Saudis?

We draw the line at Israel and get the hell out. That's what they want anyway.

I told you already bro.

People think I'm out of line saying this. But I really believe it's true. American government is one of the biggest supplier of drugs on the planet.

And Afghanistan is one of the biggest supplier of opiates.

I couldn't believe when we had soldiers on detail guarding poppy fields.

So we're there for Big Pharma to get cheap opiates? That makes sense too. It would also explain why the heroin epidemic has exploded and expanded into suburban/rural areas so fast.

I must have missed you pointing this out.

I almost made a 'tin foil hat' comment like that when I was responding to your comment about heroin in the RNC thread.

Apparently, no Reynolds Wrap needed...

Wouldn't it be great if no government was needed?

It would be utopia if we didn't need government.

Unfortunately, too many people and companies who won't do the right thing without it.

Many others who served over there told me they guarded Poppy fields because it was the cash crop of the Taliban and we didn't want them cashing in to buy weapons to kill us.

It's a cash crop for everybody.

Instead of the taliban using it for drug money, we are.

Yes, I think it was Swish who told us that. What gives? Do only the Islamic Extremists in those countries own guns?

Sigh.

If people in different countries don't want guns around them like western movies, then who are you to say anything?

Different cultures.

I agree. Let them slug it out and thin the ranks much like we do with gang volience. As long as it is contained and it is bad guy against bad guy sit back and watch.

That may have been what they were "told", but if that were the case, why not just burn it instead of guard it?

Aren't poppies used in production of pharmaceuticals like morphine and other opiates? I'm asking - I think they are, but not sure those meds aren't made synthetically nowadays.