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I'm just glad I see something other than blonde hair blue eyed in that convention.

Which means they're all getting deported.

Diam,
OK, so please find me the current article that lists the spending the pentagon has done in the last 4 years in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our budget is large and is running a deficit but lets not act like it has all been on local spending!!

Dude .. U asked me to prove the debt claim .. I used the article to show what the debt was when oBUMa took office ..

I need a recent article for that? *L* .. It's almost your turn ... Here's the last piece ...

It's an old article ... It's about something OBOMA said in 2006 so when the article was written is IRRELLIVENT!!!

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/polit...bt-unpatriotic/

We recently learned that during the Obama presidency — which hasn’t even reached its third year — America has increased its debt by $4 trillion. That is to say, Obama has achieved in two-and-a-half years what it took George W. Bush two full terms in office to achieve. All of which makes this clip particularly delicious.

On July 3, 2008, presidential candidate Barack Obama said this:


The problem is, is that the way Bush has done it over the last eight years is to take out a credit card from the Bank of China in the name of our children, driving up our national debt from $5 trillion for the first 42 presidents — #43 added $4 trillion by his lonesome, so that we now have over $9 trillion of debt that we are going to have to pay back — $30,000 for every man, woman and child. That’s irresponsible. It’s unpatriotic.

There's the last piece of proof ...

Now it's your turn lap dogs ...

OBUMA said bush was unpatriotic, irresponsible and putting a heavy burden on our children for increasing the debt by 4 trillion dollars all by his lonesome .. Well O has increased it by 9 trillion and it will be 10 by the time he gets out ..

Please explain how that's a good thing lap dogs? ...

We can go over the immagration stuff tomorrow ...

PS . After I get my links .. Be prepared to tell me why the border patrol agents endorsed trump? ...

As a young girl growing up in Slovenia,

- Michelle Obama

(Is there seriously a democrat named Marcia Fudge?) Shivver!

I figured out who Bernie is like.

Bernie is like the E.C.W.

Wrestling with barbed wires, hundreds of chairs thrown into a ring, and general carnage plus mayhem beyond the normal.

And he holds all the excitement the E.C.W brought it's first year too.

Bill Clinton has the look of a rock star who gets really skinny. Probably doctors.

DC - your turn dude .. I'm done jumping through hoops ..

PS. The defense budget has been going down and is about gutted ... I believe the pentagon is a part of that ..

Once again ... The FACTS SUCK!!!

Feel good about burying your kids deeper in financial debt ..

Here are 2 links that report the current national debt as 19 trillion:


http://www.usgovernmentdebt.us

http://www.usdebtclock.org

Watching that debt clock is scary. Looks like it increases by about a thousand dollars a second. Yikes!

Anyone who thinks that the Defense Dept is gutting is living in a bubble. Just look at a pie chart of US Gov spending. The big pieces are :

http://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_budget_pie


But i guess the military is gutted!!. Yea right, Nothing has ever gutted military spending. And that is the stuff that is on the books.

Why is Bernie telling people to support someone he said is not qualified to be president?

A large chunk of the current platform, ratified a week or so ago, comes from many of his ideas. Bernie's the best thing to happen to the democratic party.

Bernie = a sellout .. A complete and utter sell out ...

His slogan went from ... GRASS ROOTS MOVEMENT ..

To

GRASS ROOTS MEETS WALL STREET ...

I'M sure another SUCKY FACT that will be IGNORED ..

Like Bernie said in one of the debates ...

"Wall Street must have felt real bad after u scolded them" ..

U know Hillary has taken more money from big business than any other candidate in history ..

Swish - I remember a remark in one of your quotes being ... Paraphrasing here .. U were3 slamming 40 or maybe even me .. Here's what u said ..

"Your precious corporations" .. And I did a double take .. My precious corps? .. *L* .. I'm not even a little on boarde with how Americans companies have been run for about 20 years now ..

But that's not the point Swish .. The point is there HILLARY'S PRECIOUS CORPS .. and u lap dogs don't even know it .. She says she's for the little people and u guys cheer your asses off ... meanwhile she SUPPORTS everything big business wants because they give her more money than anyone ..

ANOTHR SUCK ASS FACT!!!!

TPP no good .... OOOOPSS ...

VP pick .. His ass should have started to get a little sore at this point .. But hey .. The good soldier rolls over once again and CRAPS ALL OVER HIS OWN VALUES .. Not my values, BUT HIS OWN VALUES ...

Then to top it off .. Bernie who screams about a rigged system .. Gets the proof and once again ROLLS OVER ...

What a fighter this dude is ... *LOL* ...

U guys can talk til your blue in the face .. EVERYTHING I JUST SAID IS TRUE ..

Bernie is the BIGGEST SELL OUT EVER!!!

DNC - here u go .. U haven't ANSWERED MY QUESTION ... WHY??? .. Cause u can't? .. PLEASE answer my question instead of ask another question .. If not, I wil KNOW U CONCEDED YOUR WRONG!

http://www.militarytimes.com/story/milit...berry/82416918/

During a recent trip to several Southern U.S. military bases, Marines told House Armed Services Committee Chairman Mac Thornberry, R-Texas, that they've been paying for their units' supplies like pens and paper towels, and were forced to raid decommissioned aircraft for parts.

“I have heard firsthand from service members who have looked me in the eye and told of trying to cannibalize parts from a museum aircraft … getting aircraft that were sent to the boneyard in Arizona back and ready to fly missions, pilots flying well below the minimum number of hours required for minimal proficiency,” Thornberry said.

Lawmakers are livid about the fiscal shortfalls, even if their budget infighting in Congress is partly to blame.

At issue are military readiness accounts stretched thin by more than a decade of war and four years of defense penny pinching. Earlier this month, chiefs from each of the four services told lawmakers that those two stressors have led to belt-tightening headaches for units across the military, in some cases deferring long-term needs in favor of short-term solutions.

Need more? .. Cause I can go get links showing that our # of aircrafts, ships, personal and key equipment levels are at there lowest numbers since pre WW2 ...

QUIT LOOKING AT WHAT U WANT AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHATS ACTUALLY GOING ON AND ADJUST YOUR THOUGHTS OF WHAT GOING ON INSTEAD OF JUSTIFING WHATS GOING ON TO FIT YOUR AGENDA ...

I couldn't agree more. If you want a good look a the state of humanity, civility and politics in this country, just peruse through the Trump thread that Rocket started (not blaming you, Rocket). Microcosm of how quick we are to succumb to buffoon-like tendencies.

Diam,
You have to put links up,I WORK HERE!! There is NO gutted of the pentagon or defense Dept. How the hell do you call 535 Billion living on a shoe string!!!

http://www.defense.gov/News/News-Releases/News-Release-View/Article/605365

And again, Thats discretionary budget money = money on the books. The defense dept probably has bunch as in Billions in NON-DISCRETIONARY spending. So not being able to buy paper, pens..etc.. SO WHAT!!. I gotta buy pens and paper where I work!! Get over it!!..

And as far as your article, it depends on what plane they are flying ..etc. Meaning, No one is going to a bone yard for some F-16,F-15 ..etc parts. Now if you have some older prop plane, you might be at the bone yard.

And for your further knowledge, ask a airline maintenance person about airlines going to Bone Yards, getting parts for older planes!

I'll just say this. I know a lot about Pentagon spending. The biggest problem is, first, the lobbying power of the largest defense contractors, and the fact that a lot of the contracts with them are sole source, as in, they charge what they want because they're the only ones making it. Most of the other waste dove-tails from that point.

The ear marks of the money given to the Pentagon is another huge problem. E.g. why do we spend so much on building tanks and then parking them in Nevada? Why did we procure a JSF that is aerially insuperior to the F-22? Why do we procure sensors for certain platforms where they have no business being?

The Pentagon has recently found ways to carry the dollar further, such as implementing contract types where a fixed price is eliminated and the government shares in cost savings with the defense contractor. The Pentagon can also request actual realized profit history for sole source prime contractors and subcontractors, and use that as leverage in negotiations.

So what happens when Lockheed's profit margin shrinks? Somehow an NDAA gets put through Congress that seeks to prevent the Pentagon from requesting the information it needs to carry out cost-saving measures.

Lockheed and Raytheon need their money.....

One other big problem is that generals crow like hell to close acquisition deals without doing due diligence on cost savings because "we have the money, and we need to spend it before it expires (defense spending funds expire, btw)."

Gee, I wonder where a lot of these generals all go to work when they retire? It's almost like they just had the position waiting for them...

I think you are being very generous. The simple fact that people vote and follow their party around like trained puppy dogs doesn't mean they are really paying attention.

Why is Liberal a bad name,, why is Conservative a bad name.

WE need them both for balance.

I've believed from the beginning that the best wayto find solutions to our problems is to start in the middle and work your way out both left and right until you find the balance that works for the majority of people,, Not just the ones with the biggest mouths and loudest voices.

By calling each other derogatory names, (or by making Liberal and Conservative sound derogatory) we are only feeding the beast that is the parties themselves.

Probably time to stop that nonsense.

So my take away from night one of the DNC... Democrats are absolutely appalled that Republicans are trying to divide us based on race, religion, or immigration status... when we should be divided based on income, occupation, and political affiliation.

My two bone chilling moments of the night last night, when Bernie said that we need a democrat in the white house, a democratic controlled congress and a democratic controlled senate... if we have learned anything in this country, it should be that no balance is never good.

Second bone chilling moment of the night, when Bernie said that Hillary will hand select Supreme Court Justices specifically to get certain laws reversed. That is so far removed from how the Supreme Court is supposed to work that it should give everybody reason to pause.

It's no different than what I heard in the RNC.

Conservative values blah blah blah.

Didnt hear you complain about that, though.

Bernie's movement has grown up and is no longer following his lead. The movement has grown to despise Hillary and Big Money in politics; they are not going to just fall in line no matter who takes the stage at the DNC.

Today there will be a roll call vote for the nomination (Hillary should win this vote, but I would love a surprise here). If Bernie supporters are as vocal tonight after losing the roll call vote, that is very bad news for Hillary. 43% (I think it's closer to 48%) of the Democratic party are tied to the Bernie movement and other than those in the public eye now backing Hillary, nobody knows what the rest will do.

This is getting very real people. The corporate media will deny and lie to cover this up, but Hillary needs these people in November and all the lying in the world won't change that.

After the DNC email leak and the dirty primary, I think the Dems are getting exactly what they deserve. You can't crap on half your base and expect them to support you, what the hell were you thinking?

Bernie is done. He has done what he could to bring them in and they are not listening to him, they even booed him yesterday when he called for them to back her. So a massive movement, now without a leader (at least for now) is the proverbial tail wagging the dog and Hillary and the DNC have no idea what to do about it.

This is going to be crazy.

Yes you did.

And in a very different way, Trump has had a very similar impact on the Reps.. he's alienated about half, some will still hold their nose and vote for him just out of disgust for Hillary, but they no longer view themselves as staunch supporters of the Republican party..

I could see some major realigning of our political parties over the next 10 years as people struggle to figure out where they fit in.

IMHO, At the end of the day FEAR will dictate the outcome of this election and that bodes well for Trump.

About the Robinhood green hats at the DNC:
http://www.idsnews.com/article/2016/07/sanders-delegates

What a mess. That entire party is a mess.

The cheers were pretty loud when he said to back Hilary.

Your boy laid out a nice case to get behind her. And he was right the whole night, the DNC and Clinton were forced to not only keep to their talking points, but they had to adopt his as well.

And she's gonna have to make those commitments or those same supporters will walk away come 2020.

I know I'm liberal, but the message of hope, peace and unity will always win me over the message of violence, destruction, racism and creepy as touching of daughters.

If we can get those people to vote Libertarian...
I would love to see this election end in a 3 way tie.
Then let the fun begin!

The Republicans are not trying to divide based on race lol (I know you are just passing along what they said-- this isn't directed at you). Even Trump himself has not said a single negative thing about any race. He is tough on illegal immigrants and radical Islam for sure. That much is true. I hear more race baiting and rhetoric from the Democrats though and it's not even close.

???

Trump literally said a judge can't do his job properly because "he's Mexican and I'm building a wall"

How freaking blind are you? How can I take you seriously when you blatantly disregard stuff like that?

The only viable excuse I can come up with is that it's because you agree with him. And if that's the case, then it makes sense.

Of course a racist doesn't think theyre racist.

You do realize that Mexican is not a race, right? You should do some research on the racial makeup of various Latin American countries. It varies wildly. Did you know that the genetic pool in the northern Mexican states of Sonora, Chihuahua, and Nuevo Leon is majority European? So who is Trump racist against exactly? Spanish? Europeans? Amerindians? Mestizos? Whites? Blacks? Asians? They all have their fair share of makeup in various Latin American countries.

Stop it. You're digging your hole even deeper.

Trump is racist as hell. Even other GOP leaders had to stand on stage and play damage control.

Paul Ryan said, and I quote "textbook definition of a racist comment".

This is why I say the trump supporters are worse than trump himself.

Haus is defending this dude no matter what crap he says. that tells me a lot about you.

"And I watch my daughters- two intelligent, black young women-"

- melania trump

You and many others keep on yelling racist but again, he has never mentioned any race in a negative manner. It seems as if your confirmation bias in matters like country of origin, immigration status, and religion that correlate somewhat with race is making you think that he says racist things, even though he doesn't.

Not at all.

And religion?

Religion isn't a race.

Lol I know. Read what I wrote. Religion does correlate with race, e.g. most Muslims are Arab or Black [edit: the correlation is there although those two alone don't make up a majority of Muslims in the world. Add Indian Muslims and you're there] I've seen times where he has said something negative about extreme Islam, and people have turned that around to be racist because of that fact. Strange I know. Labeling Donald Trump a racist is by far the most effective and brilliant strategy the Democrats have achieved this election cycle.

They have even managed to convince some people that anybody who votes for Trump must be a racist. Again this is very strange because even Donald Trump himself has not said anything negative about any race.

Swish - which is worse ... Plagerizing or lying?

If I may Diam, both appear to be unacceptable in my and your world, unless of course either come from a politician. Then of course, either/both are to be expected and are often accepted.

Disgusting isn't it?

It wasn't that bad, but no doubt it is harder to talk facts about where we stand as a nation then it is to promose bubble up and rainbow stew to everybody. People lap that stufff up...I want my free stuff.

The biggest problem we have in this country is our backbone has been replaced by a wishbone.