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You are either off your rocker or you didn't comprehend.

Swish was upset and talking about being violent against cops.

Had nothing to do with what you accuse me of saying.

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Is Trump Obsessed With Putin and Russia?


Andrew Rosenthal JULY 20, 2016


In an interview on CNN on Tuesday, Senator Marco Rubio wondered why Donald Trump seems so obsessed with Vladimir Putin. It was an excellent question.

It’s not hard to guess at least some of what Trump sees in Putin: He’s a strong man (and a strongman) who says whatever he wants, does whatever he wants, and not only does Putin not have to woo the press, he controls it.

But Rubio’s right: There are many odd and mysterious points of connection between Trump and Russia.

Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, has a history of representing heinous dictators, including Viktor Yanukovych of Ukraine, a Kremlin puppet who was deposed by revolution in 2014.

Ukrainians think it’s funny. “We joke in Ukraine that it is a bad sign for Trump that he hired Manafort,” Oleg Kravchenko, a Ukrainian political analyst, told PolitiFact in May. “Because his client, Yanukovych, was ousted and fled to Russia, to the city of Rostov. So Trump could also end up in Rostov.”

Manafort has ties to Oleg Deripaska, who made a shocking fortune in the aluminum business through his Kremlin connections and, as Michael Isikoff, chief investigative journalist for Yahoo News, reported in April, “for years was barred from entering the United States over allegations of ties to organized crime.”

Isikoff wrote that investigators in the Cayman Islands questioned Manafort “in connection with” a $26.2 million investment from Deripaska for a failed telecommunications project in Ukraine. Isikoff said Manafort had “multiple business deals” with “another pro-Putin oligarch, Dmitri Firtash.”

Just to make this strange stew more pungent, along comes Michael Flynn, the retired Army general and Trump supporter, who reportedly was vetted by Trump as a potential running mate.

In an interview on Yahoo News on Monday, Isikoff asked Flynn why he had attended an anniversary celebration for RT, the Putin propaganda machine, last year, sat next to the Russian autocrat at the celebratory dinner, and delivered a speech.

The purpose of the trip, Flynn said, was to try to persuade the Russians to get the Iranians to stop meddling in the Middle East. Isikoff quite reasonably asked whether he had received a fee, and if so, why he accepted the money. “I didn’t take any money from Russia,” Flynn said.

Isikoff asked, “Who paid you?” and Flynn testily snapped: “My speaker’s bureau. Ask them.”

It would seem absurd at any other convention, but in Cleveland the idea that there is some nefarious undertone to Trump’s obsession with Putin — is the Russian leader flattering Trump to somehow gain control over him? — somehow does not seem entirely crazy.

Trump loves conspiracies. He was one of the original “birthers” questioning Obama’s citizenship and religion and he likes to hint darkly that Obama is in league with terrorists. Those are among the things about Trump that terrify ordinary people, but the Cleveland meeting is no place for ordinary people.

Trump’s former adviser, Roger Stone, who described his recent book about the Clintons as “a horrifying true story of rape, intimidation, cover-up, drugs, greed and power,” is using the convention to promote himself. So is Alex Jones, who runs the right-wing conspiracy website infowars.com.

“The establishment, George Soros and others have done everything they can to try to shut down our free speech,” Jones shouted at a tiny rally on the Cleveland waterfront on Monday, where he seemed free to say whatever he wanted, and Soros was nowhere in sight.

Conspiracy theories are contagious, like yawning. One person does it, and then everyone is doing it. James Carville, the Hillary Clinton booster, suggested on Tuesday that someone had actually set up Melania Trump by slipping phrases lifted from a speech by Michelle Obama into her convention address on Monday night.

I’m not sure there is more to Trump’s interest in Putin beyond the similarities in their personalities. But I couldn’t help but think of the 1980s, when I covered the Soviet Union, a place where no coincidence was considered benign and all motivations were considered suspect.

Evil intent was at the core of Soviet paranoia. As Lenin said in his April 11, 1913, letter to Pravda: “in politics, it is not so important who directly advocates particular views. What is important is who stands to gain from those views.”

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The Democrats can try as hard as they like to take this release of damning emails and make it a Trump is a commie issue but I hear more emails are coming out soon. This is beginning to look like the Mit Romney 47 percent speech which was his undoing.

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Why I’m Resigning My Position As A Republican Committeeman



Chris Ladd
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Last week, I resigned my position in the York Township Republican Committeemen’s Organization. Below is the letter I sent to the chairman explaining my decision.

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Chairman Cuzzone:

We come together in political parties to magnify our influence. An organized representative institution can give weight to our will in ways we could not accomplish on our own. Working with others gives us power, but at the cost of constant, calculated compromise. No two people will agree on everything. There is no moral purity in politics.

If compromise is the key to healthy politics, how does one respond when compromise descends into complicity? To preserve a sense of our personal moral accountability we must each define boundaries. For those boundaries to have meaning we must have the courage to protect them, even when the cost is high.

Almost 30 years ago as a teenager in Texas, I attended my first county Republican convention. As a college student I met a young Rick Perry, fresh from his conversion to the GOP, as he was launching his first campaign for statewide office. Through Associated Republicans of Texas, I contributed and volunteered for business-friendly Republican state and local candidates.

From his fairy-tale wall to his schoolyard bullying and his flirtation with violent racists, Donald Trump offers America a singular narrative: a tale of cowards.
Here in DuPage County, I’ve been a precinct committeeman since 2006. Door to door I’ve canvased my precinct in support of our candidates. Trudging through snow, using a drill to break the frozen ground, I posted signs for candidates on whom I pinned my hopes for better government. Among Illinois Republicans I found an organization that seemed to embody my hopes for the party nationally. Pragmatic, sensible and focused on solid government, it seemed like a GOP Jurassic Park, where the sensible, reliable Republicans of old still roamed the landscape.

At the national level, the delusions necessary to sustain our Cold War coalition were becoming dangerous long before Donald Trump arrived. From tax policy to climate change, we have found ourselves less at odds with philosophical rivals than with the fundamentals of math, science and objective reality.

The Iraq War, the financial meltdown, the utter failure of supply-side theory, climate denial, and our strange pursuit of theocratic legislation have all been troubling. Yet it seemed that America’s party of commerce, trade, and pragmatism might still have time to sober up. Remaining engaged in the party implied a contribution to that renaissance, an investment in hope. Donald Trump has put an end to that hope.

From his fairy-tale wall to his schoolyard bullying and his flirtation with violent racists, Donald Trump offers America a singular narrative: a tale of cowards. Fearful people, convinced of our inadequacy, trembling before a world alight with imaginary threats, crave a demagogue. Neither party has ever elevated to this level a more toxic figure, one that calls forth the darkest elements of our national character.

With three decades invested in the Republican Party, there is a powerful temptation to shrug and soldier on. Despite the bold rhetoric, we all know Trump will lose. Why throw away a great personal investment over one bad nominee? Trump is not merely a poor candidate, but an indictment of our character. Preserving a party is not a morally defensible goal if that party has lost its legitimacy.

Preserving a party is not a morally defensible goal if that party has lost its legitimacy.
Watching Ronald Reagan as a boy, I recall how bold it was for him to declare ‘morning again’ in America. In a country menaced by Communism and burdened by a struggling economy, the audacity of Reagan’s optimism inspired a generation.

Fast-forward to our present leadership and the nature of our dilemma is clear. I watched Paul Ryan speak at Donald Trump’s convention the way a young child watches his father march off to prison. Thousands of Republican figures that loathe Donald Trump, understand the danger he represents, and privately hope he loses, are publicly declaring their support for him. In Illinois our local and state GOP organizations, faced with a choice, have decided on complicity.

Our leaders’ compromise preserves their personal capital at our collective cost. Their refusal to dissent robs all Republicans of moral cover. Evasion and cowardice has prevailed over conscience. We are now, and shall indefinitely remain, the Party of Donald Trump.

I will not contribute my name, my work or my character to an utterly indefensible cause. No sensible adult demands moral purity from a political party, but conscience is meaningless without constraints. A party willing to lend its collective capital to Donald Trump has entered a compromise beyond any credible threshold of legitimacy. There is no redemption in being one of the “good Nazis.”

I hereby resign my position as a York Township Republican committeeman. My 30-year tenure as a Republican is over.

Sincerely,

Chris Ladd

Postscript: Needless to say, the response to the letter has been stunning and overwhelming. I want to express my gratitude to the people who have shared so many kind thoughts. It was my intention to reply to each of the emails I’ve received, but I was snowed under by late last night and they keep piling up.

Some of the warmest regards have come from right here in suburban Chicago. When I posted this letter I was prepared to face some anger here at home from fellow Republicans. Nothing of the kind has materialized. The only official response from the local GOP so far has been support, for which I am immensely grateful. It gives me hope. We may all come out of this debacle in better condition.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Your link proves Trump is a good businessman, expanding his businesses worldwide.

You guys are funny. rofl

Or perhaps desperate. saywhat


Not for nothing, but if Putin wants Trump to be President, that should be enough for any of us to want to go the other direction.

Of course, if there is nothing to it, then never mind


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People keep on writing all these nasty things about Trump. The word racist comes up a lot. Yet, Donald Trump hasn't mentioned any race in negative terms. Prove me wrong.

I hear about his 'horrible' speech at the RNC, and yet when I watched it, I heard many uplifting messages and him sticking up for many groups of people who have been ignored by politicians for far too long. He does mention some problems, from terrorism to police officers being violently targeted. He does so in words that are quite blunt which is both startling and refreshing. Mainstream media can get away with calling it a doomsday speech because it is over an hour long and they know most people won't watch the whole thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CVTuOyZDI0

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/elec...s-to-dead-heat/

cliffs: The race is very close right now. If the elections were held today, fivethirtyeight predicts 57% chance that Trump would win. The DNC will give Hillary a bounce, how much of a bounce is up for debate.

I personally think relying on polls understates Trump's chance of winning due to a sort of Shy Tory Factor.

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Originally Posted By: Haus
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/elec...s-to-dead-heat/

cliffs: The race is very close right now. If the elections were held today, fivethirtyeight predicts 57% chance that Trump would win. The DNC will give Hillary a bounce, how much of a bounce is up for debate.

I personally think relying on polls understates Trump's chance of winning due to a sort of Shy Tory Factor.


I probably wouldn't hold much faith in polls right after a convention. I'd imagine that if the DNC doesn't totally self destruct, we'll see a bump in the other direction next week.

Just the way it works.


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I guess I just assume that all candidates are funded through a variety of nefarious channels.

Thankfully, Hillary is going to take the $30 million she has raised so far from Wall Street, win the white house, and put a stop to that.


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I personally don't believe the Russian backing of Trump theory being peddled. I think Trump is a fascist and likely to get in bed with Putin, but I don't think Putin is pulling any strings to get him elected; My reasoning? I don't think Putin fears Hillary.

Not backing either candidate let's me look at things with a little less bias (not zero bias) and I think this is mostly smear on Trump. If 30 years from now when it is actually documented history, it turns out to be true; then it is terrible.

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I would think that Putin probably loves Hillary. She wants to gouge our coal production and our oil drilling and refining.. this will make us more dependent on global energy, Russia's biggest export is oil.. Hillary could be very good for Russian business.


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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Do people really think that Putin had no part in leaking these emails? Since the breach in June everyone has been saying it was the Russians. Even the metadata of the leaked documents are in Russian. I just wished they hacked it around the debate that never happened. Could you imagine reading the slander that happened then? There's a reason I'll never be a democrat. There's a reason Bernie always ran as an independent. It's because the Democrats are snakes. And so is Russia for doing this. How are we going to address this? Is a Hillary email hack going to be another real talking point during the debates? Obama just can't let his girl get owned like this and his party.

Putin almost certainly did not have any part in leaking these emails. The hacker was someone who goes by the name of Guccifer 2.0 (Google him), not to be confused with the original Guccifer who is in U.S. custody. Guccifer 2 is on record as saying he is Romanian and has nothing to do with Russia. Of course, this these facts are not exactly easy to verify as we don't know his true identity. He's also likely not the only person to hack into the DNC server (or Hillary's private server for that matter)

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Vers ... Let's talk bud .. We'll start with a few things .. I'll ask questions .. U answer them and ask me some if u like .. You know I'll answer them .. Cause I truely need some help here .. I don't UNDERTAND .. And please .. Just focus on me .. Ignore the others .. They will distract U .. smile ..

BTW .. Turning my life upside down for my nephews .. Putting together an offer on a house in Greensboro SC that should be done by tommorow close of business .. How far away from u will I be? ..

OK .. Let's talk ..

U happy with the financial direction of the country? .. U OK with being 20 trillion in debt and the fact it's continuing to grow at an incomprehensible pace .. U OK with how the future looks for your kids and/or grandkids? ...

Do u think continuing down the same path is a good thing? ..

Were in DEEP ASS TROUBLE FINANCIALLY? .. No? .. U don't agree .. Please explain how we're not if u disagree ...

What about our borders ... Do u think they should remain open so people can illegally enter our country while we at the same time JUST IGNORE OUR LAWS? ..

WE'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE ILLEGAL ...oops .. Sorry about the caps bro .. We' list focus on the illegal side of it ..

So your OK with continuing to allow people to enter this country at will .. Just coming across the border like you or cross the street ...

Your ok with that? ..

Please answer my questions and feel free to ask me any u like in any direction ..

Hopefully we can talk Vers .. And hopefully when we're done we don't go 3 months without talking like we have in the past .. *L* ..




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You still haven't responded to me in the other thread.

I did what you asked, and now you're nowhere to be found.

Interesting.


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*L* ... OK .. On my way now .. THEN U HAVE LOTS OF QUESTIONS TO ANSWER ...

Like I said .. I'm a man of my word .. Are u ..




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Yes, which is why I responded to your post in a timely manner.

So far you're blowing hot air. Still waiting.

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Wait no longer ... We'll take it a chunk at a time .. So we can STAY FOCUSED ...




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I gave up on the Republican Party when they nominated McCain, and then Romney.

It makes no difference.

Also, it's far too late to "Dump Trump." He fought hard, and won the nomination. I suspect that he won't roll over like McCain did against Obama 8 years ago, and he seems to be invulnerable to the stupid statement syndrome that sank Romney.

Oh brother ...... in the past 3 Presidential election cycles, the 2 main Parties have (or will have following the DNC Convention) nominated Obama, McCain, Romney. Trump, and Clinton. banghead Democracy is a great thing, until you look at the people voting, and their level of knowledge and understanding about the issues facing the nation, and the filth on so many of the candidates nominated to run for office.

"Is this the best we can do?" Yep. We have a largely uninformed electorate who have little or no sense of the history of the country, and little or no sense of what the candidates actually stand for, outside of a few sound bytes. I remember in the last election, where they polled younger voters, (25 and below, IIRC) and a huge percentage of those voters got their news from a comedy show that didn't even attempt to pretend that were unbiased.

While the host of te show that was the biggest offender has retired, we have people like Seth Myers, who might as well be employed by the DNC based on how he treats Clinton and Trump on his show.

He excuses everything Clinton does, and blasts Trump for everything he does. (and many against Trump are deserved, but there is not even a pretense of unbiased opinion here)

He even blasted Bernie Sanders supporters. Here is what he said about Sarah Silverman blasting away at Bernieites .....

He also showed the clip of comedian Sarah Silverman telling "Bernie or Bust" supporters that they were "ridiculous" directly from the podium. "I love Sarah and I'm glad she said something," he said. "Because Bernie supporters are known to respond positively to strong, independent women."

Wow, nothing like implying that the only reason one would not support Clinton is that she is a "strong, independent woman". rolleyes Surely her record, her innumerable lies and scandals, and so forth, have nothing to do with it.


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a huge percentage of those voters got their news from a comedy show that didn't even attempt to pretend that were unbiased


I love this narrative that got preached against Colbert, and Stewart. Both personalities took each party to task on a routine basis. CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews got lampooned on a regular basis.

But, I doubt you truly ever watched either program on a regular basis. Stewart and Colbert spoke more truth than any politician ever did in the past 20 years.

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Don't forget John Oliver.


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Everyone should watch his deconstruction of the Republican National convention on youtube. I'd link it here, but there's cussing. Truly highlights this "My feelings outweigh the actual facts" argument showing up in this very thread.

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a huge percentage of those voters got their news from a comedy show that didn't even attempt to pretend that were unbiased


I love this narrative that got preached against Colbert, and Stewart. Both personalities took each party to task on a routine basis. CNN, MSNBC, and FoxNews got lampooned on a regular basis.

But, I doubt you truly ever watched either program on a regular basis. Stewart and Colbert spoke more truth than any politician ever did in the past 20 years.


Only fools get their News from comedians. Just spout out anything and they will follow you off the cliff.

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nobody gets their news from comedians.

the things they talk about are issues we've already witnessed on any news article or channel you wish to view as credible.


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Not sure you'll ever understand the point of satire, but that's okay.

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BTW .. Turning my life upside down for my nephews .. Putting together an offer on a house in Greensboro SC that should be done by tommorow close of business .. How far away from u will I be? ..

Probably about 3 hours from Vers, only about 1 hour from me. Let's do lunch.


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nobody gets their news from comedians.

the things they talk about are issues we've already witnessed on any news article or channel you wish to view as credible.

If you don't think that the constant mocking of anything conservative by the likes of John Oliver, Samatha B, et. al... isn't influencing how younger people think and view things.... you are nuts.

Those types of shows and Twitter are how the vast majority of... I'll say the under 25 crowd... gets their information. And everything on those shows isn't just liberal slanted, it's just flat out, unapologetically, conservative hating, liberal... and Twitter they only see those who they follow.. many of them wouldn't know real news if you rolled it up and beat them with it.

That's why they need safe zones on campus and they fight to block any conservative speaker who comes on campus... they absolutely DO NOT want to hear any opinions that challenge their own preconceived notions..


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....but Stewart, Colbert, Oliver, Trevor Noah, and Larry Whitemore routinely lampoon the democrats.

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did i say that?

at all? link?

you're overblowing the safe space. i haven't seen one at my campus at all. i'm willing to wager the vast majority of campuses don't have "safe spaces".

if you're gonna take selective examples, then you're setting the standard.

when i start blasting all conservatives because of a handful of dumbasses all the time, don't say one damn word. you set the standard, remember that.

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....but Stewart, Colbert, Oliver, Trevor Noah, and Larry Whitemore routinely lampoon the democrats.


Oh so they are GOOD News sources.

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Fantastic satirists, with underrated writing teams, that expose more truth by commenting on the news, and current events.

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....but Stewart, Colbert, Oliver, Trevor Noah, and Larry Whitemore routinely lampoon the democrats.

If by routinely you mean 80% to 20%.. then yea, you might be right.


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BTW .. Turning my life upside down for my nephews .. Putting together an offer on a house in Greensboro SC that should be done by tommorow close of business .. How far away from u will I be? ..


Did you mean Greensboro, NC? If so...about 2.5 to 3 hrs.

Or, did you mean Greenville, SC? If so, a little less than an hour and a half.


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U happy with the financial direction of the country? .. U OK with being 20 trillion in debt and the fact it's continuing to grow at an incomprehensible pace .. ...


No. Our national debt has been my biggest concern for the longest time. Heck, I think I ranted about it when I visited you almost a decade ago. Problem is...........I don't hear anyone talking about how to fix that problem. I just hear a bunch of crap from "sides."


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What about our borders ... Do u think they should remain open so people can illegally enter our country while we at the same time JUST IGNORE OUR LAWS? ..


I am not as concerned about "illegals" entering the country as you and many others are. And I think that if Trump gets his way.......we'll be even farther in debt.


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Nope.


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U OK with how the future looks for your kids and/or grandkids?


Nope. And I believe that if Trump is elected, the future will look even worse. I don't believe in fighting hate w/hate. I don't believe in taking sides. I don't believe in discrimination. I don't believe in targeting groups of people and assigning all-encompassing labels to them. I don't believe in taking sides.

I come on here and all I see are sides. Blacks against whites. Liberals vs conservatives. Religious zealots vs non-believers. They hurl insults and blame the other SIDE for every single problem.

I see a lack of personal accountability and people working harder to further the divide than bridge the proverbial gap that exists between us.

I think Trump moral flaws are a real danger to a country that is already divided.

Fighting hate w/hate doesn't work. Categorizing entire groups of people is ignorant and dangerous.

Btw---------I don't like Hillary, either.

Peace, bro!

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BTW .. Turning my life upside down for my nephews .. Putting together an offer on a house in Greensboro SC that should be done by tommorow close of business .. How far away from u will I be? ..


Did you mean Greensboro, NC? If so...about 2.5 to 3 hrs.

Or, did you mean Greenville, SC? If so, a little less than an hour and a half.


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U happy with the financial direction of the country? .. U OK with being 20 trillion in debt and the fact it's continuing to grow at an incomprehensible pace .. ...


No. Our national debt has been my biggest concern for the longest time. Heck, I think I ranted about it when I visited you almost a decade ago. Problem is...........I don't hear anyone talking about how to fix that problem. I just hear a bunch of crap from "sides."


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What about our borders ... Do u think they should remain open so people can illegally enter our country while we at the same time JUST IGNORE OUR LAWS? ..


I am not as concerned about "illegals" entering the country as you and many others are. And I think that if Trump gets his way.......we'll be even farther in debt.


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Do u think continuing down the same path is a good thing? ..


Nope.


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U OK with how the future looks for your kids and/or grandkids?


Nope. And I believe that if Trump is elected, the future will look even worse. I don't believe in fighting hate w/hate. I don't believe in taking sides. I don't believe in discrimination. I don't believe in targeting groups of people and assigning all-encompassing labels to them. I don't believe in taking sides.

I come on here and all I see are sides. Blacks against whites. Liberals vs conservatives. Religious zealots vs non-believers. They hurl insults and blame the other SIDE for every single problem.

I see a lack of personal accountability and people working harder to further the divide than bridge the proverbial gap that exists between us.

I think Trump moral flaws are a real danger to a country that is already divided.

Fighting hate w/hate doesn't work. Categorizing entire groups of people is ignorant and dangerous.

Btw---------I don't like Hillary, either.

Peace, bro!



U think we're done .. *L* .. Not by a long shot ..

Oooops .. Meant Columbia SC... The home of the SC Gamecocks .. U know how I LOVE my college sports bro ..

I keep telling everyone Geensboro .. Not sure why .. *L* ..

Let me know how far away ..

DC - lunch, dinner, Browns game .. Actually how's about I see if I can get us tix to a Duke/Maryland game .. Your choice where .. And I'm serious about that .. I may be able to get us tix in either spot ... Let me know if u want me to see what I can do ..

I'll be driving back and forth from NY quite frequently until at least next spring .. If u don't wanna try for the game .. Depending on where your at .. We'll set something up for one of my drives ..

Vers - gotta run .. Nephews wanna go play ball ..




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he will tell you SC. so he bashes whites

before it was east cleveland, so he feels he knows blacks and bashes them.

so right now he's probably in mexico city, mexico. that way he can tell latino's that they are cool with rape and murder.

give it 10 years, he will move to Dubai to do the same with the arabs.


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Vers - where r u ..if u don't wanna say it out here ... PM please ..


he will tell you SC. so he bashes whites

before it was east cleveland, so he feels he knows blacks and bashes them.

so right now he's probably in mexico city, mexico. that way he can tell latino's that they are cool with rape and murder.

give it 10 years, he will move to Dubai to do the same with the arabs.

I know that Vers has been a teacher for many years, and has a wide variety of experiences. Maybe it would be better to listen to what he says instead of just trying to discredit him out of hand. That doesn't mean you should automatically agree with everything he or anybody else says, but he actually does a pretty good job of trying to see both sides in these silly political debates.

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when somebody goes "blacks are cool with gangs and rape and murders"

that doesn't sound like somebody who is credible.

i expect way more from a teacher. the guy goes around and doesn't even practices what he preaches.


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when somebody goes "blacks are cool with gangs and rape and murders"

that doesn't sound like somebody who is credible.

i expect way more from a teacher. the guy goes around and doesn't even practices what he preaches.


Well I don't remember him saying anything like that. I'm sure that something was said remotely along those lines, but I would have to see the wording and context for myself. No offense, but I have seen the way a few members on this board have manipulated things that I have posted into things that I never said or even implied. If you could provide a link and some background, that would be helpful.

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