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DiamDawg #1134876 07/26/16 06:17 PM
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yea my dad is pretty proud of me. he was pissed when i traded in the bimmer, though.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Originally Posted By: Swish
Good luck making Mexico pay for that.

That koolaid you're drinking. Cherry or trap flavor?



I didn't say Mexico. I said the Mexicans, and went in to detail had you read what I said.


If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.

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Stay focused stoner .. Your mixing up the conversations ..

This is the ENTIRE ARTICLE I posted and u responded to .. Will get the response after I show this ...

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By Stephen Dinan - The Washington Times - Friday, April 22, 2016
Illegal immigrant families are streaming across the border at record pace, according to new Border Patrol statistics released Friday morning that show more than 32,000 have been caught trying to sneak into the U.S.

That’s nearly 40 percent higher than the previous record of 2014, and it’s well more than double last year’s pace, suggesting that the government’s relaxed enforcement policies have backfired and invited a new wave of illegal crossers.

There’s somewhat better news when it comes to children traveling alone. The record pace has slackened slightly — though an uptick in March suggests that the warmer months could once again see a massive wave at the southwest border.
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson had thought he’d licked the problem two years ago, after surging manpower to the border. And indeed the numbers did drop in late 2014 and early 2015.
But the pace of both families and unaccompanied children picked up last summer, just as Mr. Johnson announced new relaxed rules for detaining illegal immigrants, and it has remained high ever since.


U took this line ...

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And indeed the numbers did drop in late 2014 and early 2015.


And drew this conclusion .. YOUR WORDS FROM YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS ...

" Interesting.

So there's an uptick in families coming over, even though the overall immagrant issue is down.

That's from your article, BTW."

I said no it's not .. CAUSE THATS NOT WHAT THE ARTICLE SAYS ..

FOLLOW THE BOUNCING BALL STONER .. In the article it says ..

In 2014 we had record numbers coming across ... PARAGRAPH 2 LINE 1 ...

Then your line comes in about the numbers going down in LATE 14 and 15 ...

WELL THEY CAME DOWN FROM THE RECORD HIGHS ... That does not mean immagration is down overall under oBUMa it means in late 14 and 15 it was DOWN FROM THE RECORD HIGH OBUMA SET IN 14 ...

UNDERSTAND now? ..

Hence your argument is NOT ACCURATE ...


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By the way, Vers, didn't you call me out for saying the police should be kept in soft shelled uniforms because it was too dangerous for the police? You want to take back those words since the police stayed safe and kept everyone safe?

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Late 2014 early 2015.

Your article says that.

And then I posted MY sources and proof to further show that Obama has deported a lot of illegals.

Anything else? Or should I be expecting comments about my mom next time?


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Hmmm .. What military was your dad in? .. Not many military dads are proud of there stoned, liberal, lap dog kids ..

Is a bimmer some sort of weed smoking apparatus U and your dad shared? ..

OK .. I'm gonna quit with the childish stuff now ..

Will behave like an adult now .. Even though that's no fun ..

Go ahead and whack away at me .. I will respond without reciprocating ..




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Originally Posted By: Swish
Late 2014 early 2015.

Your article says that.

And then I posted MY sources and proof to further show that Obama has deported a lot of illegals.

Anything else? Or should I be expecting comments about my mom next time?


Apearantly u don't understand stats ... The stats u posted are useless .. I even gave a pretty simple football example so u would easily be able to see ...




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My dad was in the army for 20 years.

He's actually really proud of me, as I joined the army for 8.

And we smoke together sometimes after heavy workout sessions.

Should I talk about my mom, too? Maybe my feelings? Go ahead and ask about my childhood.

The bimmer did cause a lot of smoke, yes. Went through 3 sets of tires.


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By the way, Vers, didn't you call me out for saying the police should be kept in soft shelled uniforms because it was too dangerous for the police? You want to take back those words since the police stayed safe and kept everyone safe?

Seems like the classic, "hindsight is 20/20"

Yes the police stayed safe and more or less kept the situation under control. It still doesn't mean it was a great call. Like if it was a 50/50 shot that there would be overt violence directed at the police, it would be hard to justify if it indeed happened. Luckily it didn't (and I'm proud of the city that it didn't, just trying to acknowledge the possibilities here).

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Even though I can take care of myself, I like how people can blast me about what I say about their post.

Yet nobody has said a word to Diam about bringing my parents into this.

Knowing this biased ass refs, you probably won't even get suspended.

But I'll get suspended for combining God and damn together.

It's cool though. Let's continue.

Your article sucks. I posted hard facts. Suck it up.

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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
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Except the conversation was how soft shelled gear have shown to promote peaceful protests, while hard shell protection just exacerbates violence. But yeah, evaluating things that happen in the past is hindsight. And I guess if you are correct it's 20 20.

But if you're wrong and attack people in your wrongness are you man enough to admit when you're wrong? That's really what this is.

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The cost .. Ya .. We can't afford to build it .. Cause not building it is WORKING REAL WELL FOR US ...

AND THESE ARE FROM 2013 AND 14 ... Guess they've gone down even though oBUMa has hit record highs in crossings in 14 and then again in 16 ...

http://www.fairus.org/issues/publications/state-cost-studies

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013)
The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on United States Taxpayers (2013) Illegal immigration costs federal and local taxpayers $113 billion a year. That is an average cost to native-headed households of $1,117 a year. This pioneering study, revised for 2013 brings together data and estimates of the fiscal cost resulting from federal, state and local expenditures on illegal aliens and their U.S.-born children. Separate estimates are available for each state.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on California Taxpayers (2014)
The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on California Taxpayers (2014) Californians bear an enormous fiscal burden as a result of an illegal alien population estimated at almost 3 million residents. The annual expenditure of state and local tax dollars on services for that population is $25.3 billion.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on North Carolinians (2014) Illegal immigration cost North Carolina taxpayers more than $2 billion annually. That amounts to $578 annually for every North Carolina household headed by a native-born or naturalized U.S. citizen. The taxes paid by illegal aliens — estimated at less than $300 million per year — do not come close to paying for those outlays, and are not a true offset in any case.

The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on Texans (2014) In 2013, illegal immigration cost
Texas taxpayers about $12.1 billion annually. That amounts to more than $1,197 for every Texas household headed by a native-born or naturalized U.S. citizen. The taxes paid by illegal aliens — estimated at $1.27 billion per year — do not come close to paying for those outlays, but we include an estimate of revenue from sales taxes, property taxes, alcohol taxes, and cigarette taxes.

Me thinks we have no choice but to BUILD THAT WALL .. BUILD THAT WALL .. BUILD THAT WALL!!!




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Originally Posted By: Swish
Even though I can take care of myself, I like how people can blast me about what I say about their post.

Yet nobody has said a word to Diam about bringing my parents into this.

Knowing this biased ass refs, you probably won't even get suspended.

But I'll get suspended for combining God and damn together.

It's cool though. Let's continue.

Your article sucks. I posted hard facts. Suck it up.


*LOL* .. Your like Hillary playing the victim ... You been insulting me since post 3 ... Like u .. I could care less ... At least I don't cry about it ..

Funny ... I post I will take the high road and u start whining .. *LOL* ...




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My article sucks cause u don't like the ACTUAL NUMBERS ..

And if your definition of hard facts is USELES STATS ... Then u got me ..

Do u have any clue how stats work? .. Cause if you think your articles are any good ... Well .. I promised to take the high road ..

smile ..




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I'm not really crying about it. jus stating the obvious.

Anyways, the wall is a solution to a symptom. Hell, it might not even work. Trump doesn't even know how much his wall will cost.

Some say 25 bill, some say way more.

But it isn't just the wall. The wall itself will cost billions. Then you're talking billions to do all the other things he wants to do.

You're talking about an annual cost Just to maintain the wall, one that could easily rival that of the cost you just posted for immigrants being here.

You're doing all this, yet why aren't you offering solutions like I have to actually FIX the immigration problem?

You're talking all symptoms, yet no root problems and solutions.

That's very short sighted of you.


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I did ...

- BUILD THE WALL ..
- use technology and surveillance along with the border patrol ...
- use e-verify and hold employers accountable ... Then the illegals will have no reason to stay .. Get the illegals out of our schools and off our Medicare/Medicaid rolls ..

That will STOP them from coming and GIVE THEM NO REASON TO STAY ...

Is there something I'm missing?

What was your solution? .. U don't seem to think there's a problem ..




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I gave you my solutions.

You were too busy grand standing and running your mouth to even read them.

Those solutions will not stop illegal immigration. It will not stop people from wanting to come here.

If you actually would read my solutions, you'd know.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

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Ummm .. They stil may want to come here ..

Please explain to me why though if we have no job, medical or schooling for their kids ..

Why are they coming?

They still may want to come here .. Good luck getting over the wall and past our border patrol who will have u on video ...

Ummm .. This will be a wall that u can't go get a ladder from wal mart to scale .. Just so u know .

IT WILL BE A REAL WALL!!!




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And I don't mind if they come vacation here .. CAUSE I'm not sure why else there coming here ..




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You're severely underestimating the ability of humans to get through whatever it is they want to get through.

They dig under ground, they go AROUND by boats and such.

You HAVE to address WHY they are coming over here.

I offered those ideas and solutions, and you still haven't said a word about it.


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Dude .. There coming over to WORK and get MEDICAL and get there KIDS EDUCATED and GOOD MEDICAL ..

Why else are they coming over? .. What do u think there coming over for Slurpees? ..

And I ain't looking up your post .. You're very disrespectful .. Unless u change your behavior .. I won't be do u any favors ...




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You're the one talking about my dad. You have no room to talk when it comes to disrespect.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
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Pssssst .... TEHNOLOGY for underground ...

Were SMART ... Someone in this country can FIGURE IT OUT ...

Don't underestimate the ability of humans to figure out what ever it is they want to figure out ..

smile ...




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Originally Posted By: Swish
I'm not really crying about it. jus stating the obvious.

Anyways, the wall is a solution to a symptom. Hell, it might not even work. Trump doesn't even know how much his wall will cost.

Some say 25 bill, some say way more.

But it isn't just the wall. The wall itself will cost billions. Then you're talking billions to do all the other things he wants to do.

You're talking about an annual cost Just to maintain the wall, one that could easily rival that of the cost you just posted for immigrants being here.

You're doing all this, yet why aren't you offering solutions like I have to actually FIX the immigration problem?

You're talking all symptoms, yet no root problems and solutions.

That's very short sighted of you.


The cost of the wall is nothing compared to what Sanders wanted to spend (20 trillion)


It's supposed to be hard! If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great!
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Seeing as I'm not s Bernie supporter, nor is Bernie the nominee, I don't really understand the point bro.


“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”

- Theodore Roosevelt
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Originally Posted By: Swish
Even though I can take care of myself, I like how people can blast me about what I say about their post.

Yet nobody has said a word to Diam about bringing my parents into this.

Knowing this biased ass refs, you probably won't even get suspended.

But I'll get suspended for combining God and damn together.

It's cool though. Let's continue.

Your article sucks. I posted hard facts. Suck it up.


You are right that there has been a lot of name calling on this thread. The rules should be evenly applied.


Micah 6:8; He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.

John 14:19 Jesus said: Because I live, you also will live.
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