DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Everything Else... Presidential Election Campaigns 2016 part 2

Seems to me the point was already made.

From your link...

"Our materials, materials we released are pristine," Assange said. "We have a tenure, perfect record of having never got it wrong in relation to the integrity that we release. There are no allegation, even from Debbie Wasserman Schultz or any of these people, that any of this material is not completely valid or true."
Assange did not confirm the source of the hack as Russia but instead said "We know the source of the material, everyone knows the source of what we published, the Democratic party."
"The source is Luis Miranda, the source is Wasserman Schultz," he said.

Look at 40 speaking sense for once.

So you expect some shady things about trumps tax returns?

Speaking sense to the senseless is often void of any sense.

To those of you who worry about Trump with the Nuke Button I will present this scenario...

President Trump and his cabinet are in the war room because something bad has happened internationally that could threaten America.
Trump turns to his Generals and asks what they can do for him to solve the problem. They reply, Launch the Nukes!
The Secretary of State says, Mr. President if you Launch the Nukes they will Launch their Nukes and kill your family and mine.

Trump will consider the advice, he will think of the costs vs the benefits, he will mull it over and then he will announce...

THE WHEEL!!! SPIN THE WHEEL!!!

For Hillary it is much simpler, She would say, "Are you nuts, we can't Nuke them, they are good Donors and Bill and I have money in their banks!"

Bill Maher asked him why they haven't done that, he just said we're working on it jokingly. Non-story.

Why would Trump ask them? After all, he said he knows more than the generals.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hLpE1Pa8vv...icy=3&rel=0

Hope this works. Not sure if this works in this thread or perhaps it would be suited best in one of the "music" threads. :-)

Thought of "Feel the Bern" people.

Hilarious, maybe.

ok.....

whats going on

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/pres...-melania-trumps

anybody familiar on if The Hill is even a credible news source?

'The Hill' is a fairly reputable publication that comes our of Wash DC. It's mostly a collection of op/ed blogs from established pundits based on current events in and around Congress, although they do report straight political/business news. They lean R, usually get their facts straight.

Notable contributors: Dick Morris and Juan Williams

Yes and if you read my post and the politico article you would already know this. The Hill is just rehashing it.

I read it.

I'm just wondering if there's anything seriously to it. This just smells of a hit piece by the media but there looks to be some viable questions.

Issues like this is why the women vote is probably going to Hillary:

Rubio: No abortions for Zika-infected women

http://www.politico.com/states/florida/s...ed-women-104555

Hillary now lying about lying...

Hillary: “James Comey said my answers were truthful and what I have said is consistent with what I have told the American people.”

Chris Wallace: “… James Comey said none of those things you told the American public were true.”

Yep. She lied, the FBI director said, several times, that she lied, and yet those who love the Clintons refuse to accept that she lied.

This is a big piece of why this country is in the mess it's in. People back the party, no matter how corrupt or inept they are.

Obama swears up and down the $400 million, paid to Iran, at the exact same moment that they released 4 hostages to us, was not a ransom. The plane carrying the hostages could not leave until the plane carrying the cash had landed. (and presumably, been verified) So, we have one plane carrying a lot of cash landing, and only after that was the plane carrying the hostages allowed to leave. If it walks like a duck ... swims like a duck ..... and quacks like a duck ..... there's a good chance it's a duck.

Of course, Obama says "Nothing to see here!", and the media and half the country turns the other way and says "nothing to see where???" I am willing to bet good money that if this were a Republican President that this would be the lead story for weeks. If nothing else, it looks bad. However, the media just drops it, because Obama says that it's all fine.

You know this happened to a Republican president before? In fact, it turns out that Republican President sold crack to inner city Americans to fund the ransom. Yet that gets overlooked all the time.

It's funny how you cry about lies and such even though I had to put you on blast for lying and being deceitful

Stop it. Look in the mirror the next time you whine about our politicians. They are nothing more than a reflection of yourself.

Trump offered Kasich VP? That would have been an incredible pick for Trump.

Yea it's nuts.

The story came out a while ago, trump and his captain denied it, but Kasich just confirmed that they did indeed offer him the spot.

I'm disappointed.

If Kasich would have been the actual guy running the country, I would have been thrilled.

Eyes wide open YTown, eyes wide open.

Kasich, like Cruz, can't back that dude. Hey, I get it. It could've been a decent ticket, but I get why he can't just stand by trump.

. Have you forgotten about Iran Contra Ollie North and that sordid mess.

I don't think he trusted Trump at all or Trump's claim to make him the most important VP ever.

Yeah... that story broke just before the RNC. Kasich turned sonny boy down flat, then "no-showed" the convention hosted by his own state.

I suspect that his reason for both decisions were because of this:

I think this--and how other Republicans--view Trump would also work well in the thread I started about No Experience Needed.

How are things going to be accomplished?

Not at all. The press crawled all over that story .... and rightfully so ......

Ollie North was found guilty of a court of law on some counts, and not guilty on others.

In this case, it appears that the press's level of investigation was: "Mr President, what do you say about charges that this was a ransom?" Obama answers with a convoluted and circular answer, and the press says;"Oh, OK."

I know where Kasichs reps were during the convention because I personally saw them. However, I have ZERO clue where Kasich was during the convention. His reps had a legitimate reason not to be at the actual convention, but not sure on Kasich.

He was holed up somewhere crying bitter tears that he was not to be Vice President.

I just wanted to add that I went to the website for CBS News, MSNBC, CNN, and ABC News.

You would never know that there was a $400 million payment to Iran when the hostages were released, if you only went by those sites. If it is on their sites, it is pretty well buried, because I took a look.

If this were a Republican President, I have no doubt that it would be a lead story, with headlines like "Ransom?", "Did we pay Iran off?", and so forth. However, it's Obama, so they don't even mention it.

And was pardoned very soon afterwards and then began his new job as an analyst for Fox News...

Yeah, they really held the coals to their feet. I bet Ollie thought he was in a Sauna with the heat they created.

you know what?

you all are peasants!!! you guys are constantly pointing out how those losers McCain, Romney, Kasich, and Cruz won't endorse trump.

well it doesn't matter, lib thingys. Trump gets endorsement from the only people that MATTER:

Top Nazi leader: Trump will be a ‘real opportunity’ for white nationalists

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post...m=.50404b76dbbf

The effort to plant the seeds of white nationalism in the political mainstream, where they might blossom into pro-white political coalitions that appeal to a broader swath of Caucasian voters, will not be easy, according to the chairman of the American Nazi Party.

But Rocky Suhayda thinks there is one political figure who presents a “real opportunity” to lessen the load.

Who is it? Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president.

“Now, if Trump does win, okay, it’s going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists, acting intelligently to build upon that, and to go and start — you know how you have the black political caucus and what not in Congress and everything — to start building on something like that,” Suhayda declared on his radio program last month.

“It doesn’t have to be anti-, like the movement’s been for decades, so much as it has to be pro-white,” he added. “You know what I’m saying? It’s kinda hard to go and call us bigots if we don’t go around and act like a bigot. That’s what the movement should contemplate. All right.”

[How America’s dying white supremacist movement is seizing on Donald Trump’s appeal]

Audio from the radio program was posted Saturday by BuzzFeed’s Andrew Kaczynski, who noted that Suhayda has in the past avoided making statements about Trump out of concern that he might harm the businessman’s candidacy. Yet, Kaczynski reported, in an American Nazi Party report from September, the chairman argued that Trump’s rhetoric revealed the secret popularity of the party’s messages.

“We have a wonderful OPPORTUNITY here folks, that may never come again, at the RIGHT time,” Suhayda wrote, according to BuzzFeed. “Donald Trump’s campaign statements, if nothing else, have SHOWN that ‘our views’ are NOT so ‘unpopular’ as the Political Correctness crowd have told everyone they are!”

Suhayda is far from the first avowed white supremacist to publicize his support and enthusiasm for Trump.

Earlier this year, Rachel Pendergraft — the national organizer for the Knights Party, a standard-bearer for the Ku Klux Klan — told The Washington Post that the KKK had begun using Trump’s candidacy as a new conversation starter to recruit followers.

She said this has been discussed on a private, members-only website and in “e-news, stuff that goes out to members.”


In addition to opening “a door to conversation,” she said, Trump’s candidacy had electrified some members of the movement.

“They like the overall momentum of his rallies and his campaign,” Pendergraft said. “They like that he’s not willing to back down. He says what he believes, and he stands on that.”

On his radio show in February, David Duke — a former Ku Klux Klan leader and a current U.S. Senate candidate from Louisiana — encouraged listeners to cast their ballots for Trump, saying that “voting against Donald Trump at this point is really treason to your heritage.”

This week, Duke told NPR that he is “100 percent behind” Trump’s political agenda.

“As a United States senator, nobody will be more supportive of his legislative agenda, his Supreme Court agenda, than I will,” Duke said.

“Donald Trump is not a racist,” he added. “And the truth is — in this country, if you simply defend the heritage of European American people, then you’re automatically a racist.”

Duke told NPR that polls among Trump supporters in Louisiana showed that “75 to 80 percent” would back his Senate run.

What Donald Trump has said about David Duke Play Video1:50
Here's what Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has said about white supremacist David Duke in several interviews in the past 15 years. (Sarah Parnass/The Washington Post)
“You think Trump voters are your voters?” asked Steve Inskeep, the host of NPR’s “Morning Edition.”

“Well, of course they are!” Duke replied. “Because I represent the ideas of preserving this country and the heritage of this country, and I think Trump represents that as well.”

Jared Taylor, editor of American Renaissance, a white-nationalist magazine and website based in Northern Virginia, told the New Yorker magazine that Trump may be in denial about the makeup of his base.

“I’m sure he would repudiate any association with people like me,” Taylor told the magazine, “but his support comes from people who are more like me than he might like to admit.”

In January, Taylor’s voice could be heard in a robo-call that encouraged Iowa voters to throw their support behind Trump.

“I urge you to vote for Donald Trump because he is the one candidate who points out that we should accept immigrants who are good for America,” Taylor says on the recording, which was paid for by the American National super PAC. “We don’t need Muslims. We need smart, well-educated white people who will assimilate to our culture. Vote Trump.”

Taylor told The Post in February that he finds Trump’s rhetoric on immigration appealing, even though he does not particularly care for the candidate’s brash style.


“I think what he’s done is a very important thing,” Taylor told The Post. “He’s the first candidate in decades to say almost explicitly that immigration should be in the interest of Americans and not just immigrants.”

He added, “He’s attractive to many Americans who see their country slipping through their fingers. You don’t want to end your days living in an outpost of Haiti or Guatemala, do you?”

During his radio program last month, Suhayda said he was confident that Trump would emerge victorious in November’s election.

Trump, he noted, has tapped into the frustrations among a large segment of white voters who have been forgotten.

“I think it’s gonna surprise the enemy, because I think that they feel that the white working class — especially the male portion of the working class and with him his female counterparts — have basically thrown in the towel,” Suhayda said. “Given up hope of any politician again standing up for their interests.”

Let me try to remember the whole Ollie North affair ...... with some help from the internet.

North was found guilty of a couple of the charges against him in the Iran Contra affair. He appealed that conviction, and the conviction was overturned.

Oliver L. North, Appellant v. Lawrence E. Walsh, in His Official Capacities As"independent Counsel" and "independent Counsel:iran/contra," et al, 881 F.2d 1088 (D.C. Cir. 1989) :: Justia
http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/881/1088/93831/

I don't recall North being pardoned, because he was never convicted of any crime that was not overturned on appeal.

I know that Bush (the father) pardoned Casper Weinberger, Claire George, Duane Clarridge, Alan Fiers Jr., Elliot Abrams, and Robert McFarlane on the final day of his administration. Who pardoned North?




Bill Clinton (using the politics of "gotcha") pardoned Mark Rich, who was a fugitive from the law. Even Barney Frank condemned that one.

Your internet is better than my memory. He was found guilty of 3 felonies, which got overturned due to his congressional immunity for helping them. Not even a decade after this affair, Oliver North came in 2nd place during a congressional race.

Again, that mainstream media sure brought the heat against him and Reagan. I'm sure if the President was a Democrat, he would have had the same glossed over look from the mainstream media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/veteran-raises-money-send-trump-175411147.html

I donated.

WikiLeaks Founder Promises More Clinton Emails, Dems Fear 'October Surprise'



Aug 07, 2016 // 8:15am


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has promised to release more damning emails regarding the Clinton Foundation, and many Democrats are fearing it could lead to an "October surprise" for the Hillary Clinton campaign.

Assange has been saying for some time that he has more emails that he will release before Election Day, but in a new interview with RT, he gave some hints at what information those emails might contain.





In particular, Assange mentioned the ties between Clinton and Sauda Arabia.

"Saudi Arabia is probably the largest single donor to the Clinton Foundation, and you can see Clinton’s arms export policies when she was a secretary of state favoring extensively Saudi Arabia," Assange said.

He also suggested Clinton had a reason for attacking rival Donald Trump over his ties to Russia: She has her own ties she's trying to conceal.

“There is a much deeper connection on record with Hillary Clinton and Russia than we are presently aware of with Donald Trump," Assange said. "Hillary Clinton did quite well strategically to draw a connection between Trump and Russia because she has so many connections of her own."

Politico reported that top Democratic officials see these emails leaks as one of several curveballs that could swing the election in favor of Trump.

“We may be headed into uncharted waters, and this has the potential to spiral out of control,” longtime Democratic operative Jim Manley said.


http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/08/07/wi...ctober-surprise

You're gonna have to help me on this one, Vers.

If I am the Republicans, I am disconnecting any email server they have from the internet, and blowing it up into tiny, little pieces. If I am the Democrats, I am doing the same, and calling for a prohibition on any stupid comments viz email.

Bro, have you noticed the top two supremacy groups backed Trump?

I have a question for the board:

The Republican Party is by no means racist. But why is it that the supremacy groups are conservatives who vote republican?