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Clinton corruption?

Shocking.

I think that these Republicans saying that they will not vote for Trump are Republicans who see their chance at power and glory going out the window if he wins.

Trump has run as an outsider. He has run as the "throw the bums out" candidate. Is anyone surprised when the bums say that they won't vote for him? I think that could actually wind up helping him. "If you want the insider, the candidate that all of the politically connected want .... the candidate who is joined at the hip with the same politicians who have got us into the situation we're in, then you should vote with the political insiders ..... for Hillary. However, if you want real change, and a real difference ..... if you want this country to win, and the middle class to win ... then vote for me." It's a subtle difference from his message ... but I think that it could work for him. He could also add that all of these politically well connected people are afraid that they will be out of jobs, out of luck, and out of opportunities to do milk their political connections for all of the taxpayer dollars they can lay their hands on.

It is well known on this board that I have been pretty fed up with the Republican Party of late. (at least the past decade) These Republicans coming out against a candidate, or even endorsing a Democrat? That makes me feel more comfortable with the guy they don't want, if he wins.

The Koch brothers hate Trump. The political insiders hate Trump. The Clintons hate Trump. Far left Democrats hate Trump. Somehow that makes me like him just a little bit more.

As far as the guy who is going to run for President as an independent ..... how?

It is too late for him to get on ballots on almost half the states. He would have to come up with all of the signatures required to get on the ballot of numerous other states by the 10th. (tomorrow) Unless he has been so completely under the radar that he has managed to do so without anyone knowing it ..... his campaign is over before it ever begins.

Here are the dates to qualify for the ballots in states:

Filing deadlines and signature requirements for independent presidential candidates, 2016 - Ballotpedia
https://ballotpedia.org/Filing_deadlines_and_signature_requirements_for_independent_presidential_candidates,_2016

Wise post Y.

What the numbskulls don't realize is Trump is becoming one of us. He is squashed by the Media, the Wealthy, and the Powers that be, just like the Middle Class in this Country.

He is the underdog and America loves an underdog.
He is the common man, crushed under the thumb of "the man".

By November, America will carry him on their shoulders into the White House!

Can somebody show me something, anything, from the DNC platform that does NOT call for the federal government to play an expanded role?

been looking for that on msnbc ,cnn, abc,cbs, nbc not a peep also haven't seen any libs on hear callin it right wing lies.....wonder why truth isn't in their dna I guess lol

Reducing the prison population?

The other day there was a video of Clinton saying something like she'd increase taxes on the middle class. Upon close listening, any fool could tell she didn't say that, but still, some made a big deal of it.

This is the same thing.. Except on this one, it really sounds as if someone purposely edited the word making it sound like the T word.

I'm 100% sure he didn't say the T world... this is nothing.

and Hillary is sincere about the plight of blacks, yea rite

Fox News has Clinton winning Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Thank God there's exactly 90 days left. That would be an absolute disaster.

https://mic.com/articles/151097/did-dona...ourt#.4UkU4R3Q6

Donald Trump seemingly joked about shooting Hillary Clinton during a speech Tuesday in North Carolina.

"If she gets to pick her judges — nothing you can do folks," Trump said, referring to Clinton getting to nominate Supreme Court justices if she were elected president. "Although, the Second Amendment people, maybe there is."

Everyone knows she wasn't attacking the middle class, she was attacking the rich.. just remember, Dems don't do class warfare.

That is why people are saying that Hillary screwed up and accidentally told the truth..

Donald Trump is not a disaster?

He didn't actually say to shoot her, but he made reference to 2nd amendment folks can do something about it. Clearly we know what he was referring to but he didn't say to shoot her.

Man, Trump is a train wreck.

Yeah dems never do class warfare,, nope never LOL

Did you watch the video? I did, several times and to be honest, if you took a quick listen it sounded like she was saying she'd tax the middle class, but listen closely and she didn't say it.

Sometimes, I think people are stupid,, or maybe political operatives think we're ALL stupid.. Take your pick LOL

The very first time I watched the video I could tell she meant to say the rich instead of the middle class.. which is why I think the whole thing is comical.

Media justify anti-Trump bias, claim he's too 'dangerous' for normal rules

The media’s legions of Trump-bashers are finally acknowledging the obvious.

And trying their best to justify it.

But there’s one problem: Tilting against one candidate in a presidential election can’t be justified.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/08/...rmal-rules.html

Where is a single example that article points out where something specific any media member did was wrong? If there's a sea of unfairness toward thine fuhrer, why not trot out an example or two?

Can somebody tell him to just shut the hell up? I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theories that he's a Hillary plant to get her nominated.

I've wondered that same thing myself. Was/is trump the nominee in order to hand the election to hillary? Hey, her foundation has the money to do it. Sometimes I wonder.......

Sometimes the unfairness is what is not reported.

Just went to CNN, searched under "Hillary Lied".. these are the CNN entries that appear on the front page:

CNN fact-checks Donald Trump's attacks on Hillary Clinton (Photo of Trump looking angry)

Donald Trump dismisses terror video, hits Hillary Clinton again (Photo of Trump)

What's missing from the 2016 race: Inspiration (Photo of both)

5 Things for Tuesday, August 2 (Photo of Trump throwing his hands in the air)

Washington Post hits Clinton with four "pinnochios" on e-mails (Photo of FBI Director James Comey)

Top house Republicans ask DOJ to investigate whether Clinton lied to congress (Photo of Hillary looking somberly into the distance)

Trump urges viewers to skip Clinton speech as Democrats rack up ratings win (Photo of Clinton smiling with Obama)

Republican convention: Donald Trump accepts presidential nomination (Photo of Trump with his mouth open looking crazed)

HIllary Clinton reiterates email use was a 'mistake' (Photo of Hillary looking somberly into the distance)

Day 1 of GOP convention speeches: CNN vets the claims (Photo of GOP Convention)



So, out of 10 first page articles on "Hillary lied".. there is exactly ONE article which addresses that she is a lying sack of crap.. the other 9 basically focus on Trump. Out of the 10 photos under "Hillary lied", there are 4 photos of Trump (most looking crazed and angry) and just 3 photos of Clinton (looking serious or happy in all of them), one of both looking serious, one of the FBI director and one of the GOP.. So the one article that actually accuses Hillary of getting caught in a bunch of lies, they don't use her picture, they use a photo of the FBI director.. Why? Because it helps the brain not make the connection of her picture, with an article accusing her of lying... it's simple psychology.

Now I won't bore you with the details.. but if you search "Trump lied" you get about 4 of the same articles, the other six are about lies they claim he told and almost every picture is of him..

Media bias isn't about lying, it's about how you tell "the truth".. from the subtle words you use to the photos that accompany your article.. the media is too smart to flagrantly do what they would prefer to do, they have much more subtle ways to let you know how they feel.. Hillary has lied for 40 years, it's all she knows how to do.. but CNN seems far more intent on dissecting that Trump accused her of lying, than the fact that she actually does lie.. a lot.

It does make me wonder. Trumps companies have had a habit of going bankrupt.

Hillary knew she was going to be unlikeable, so give her competition just as unlikeable.

Do you really think that Hillary Clinton was able to manipulate that many republican voters into voting for a manchurian candidate? And it completely escaped all the email hacking that it was going on (her own private server, the DNC email server, the democratic congressional campaign committee).

You guys, this is just pouting. It's not like Trump ran some sterling campaign then turned heel after getting the nomination. He's been the same guano-crazy xenophobe throughout the process and he's who the Republicans selected. And now that he's getting his hat handed to him (predictably, as the "evil" media had warned all you people coming up to the primaries) on a national stage for his exclusionary a-hole grandstanding and stubborness yo uwant to complain about Democrats or media conspiracies. "Oh well he's not really our guy... maybe it's Hillary's fault because... she's the devil." Give me a break.

For the record, I'm not complaining about media conspiracies as it relates to Trump, the mainstream media has been doing this to republicans and conservatives for decades.. it's nothing new, Trump is just an easier target than most.

Nah.

In the back of my mind though, I wonder if Clinton offered big bucks to trump IF he got the nomination.

That's her forte.

Lie. If lies don't work, buy. If buying doesn't work, kill.

So, I'm crazy for thinking trump may have been a clinton sham?

I don't think so. Look at her history. Abide by her/them, or die.

Trump likes money. Clinton loves money. Clinton has enough money to buy trump 2 times over.

If you call me crazy for pointing that out, well, sir, thats on you.

Conspiracy theory, I know. But for you to insinuate there is no chance in hell of it, well, I don't know.

Well, to be fair Dems typically view anyone with a job as rich, so it may have actually been the correct thing to say

Give me a break.

Hillary hasn't shown she's borderline nuts? Hillary hasn't lied out of her ass on anything and everything that could be considered illegal on her part.

Dude, you're letting your queen skate.

Trump this, trump that.


Try looking at hillary since you're so far up her pants. Pull your nose out to breathe once in a while.

Then, elect her and watch your bills go up. Unless you're living on the public dole. Yup, I said it.

Super tiny example here: Have a friend that was a die hard anti democrat. Till his business tanked. He thought he was a big shooter, too. His wife finally told him, as his business did nothing for well over a year - "get a job. We need money coming in." He's the biggest democrat you can imagine right now. Why? Because he see's free stuff.

Many other examples if needed.

Hey, hillary is second only to bill in bilking people of votes and money. But, he's giving her tips. It's hillary's election to lose. And trust me, no amount of money will stop her.

So you go on loving her. Status quo sucks us all down. But not the rich. Not bill and hillary. Not chelsea. Not buffet, not the koch brothers, not soros.

I won't vote for Hillary under any circumstances, but you trash her all the time and somehow defend Trump. That boggles my mind.

Nah - I counter the trashing of trump with snippets of hillary's ineptitude, which too many decline to mention.

For some reason, people feel free to bash, as long as it isn't clinton that gets bashed. They get up in arms about it.


Trust me, if Johnson starts polling well, the clintonites will be all over him as well.

Oh, and further, I don't trash her. She trashes herself, but somehow it goes ignored. So, really, I'm doing a PSA.

I don't know. As someone who never votes along party lines while voting for the best candidate and someone who would NEVER vote for either Trump or Hillary, the board seems pretty divided to me.

I will say that regarding my children's---and their children's--safety, Trump scares me tremendously. That doesn't mean I would vote for Hillary. It simply means that I think the guy is a walking time bomb and his platform is based more on hate, bias, and arrogance than anything else.

I'm voting for Johnson. He is the only sane candidate left.

Here's just one small, simple example.

[video:youtube]https://youtu.be/70bWmu3p8bo[/video]

But go ahead, bury your head in the sand about her life. It's ALWAYS been about her. She's "entitled", right?

Some of you definitely live in a different world if you think Hillary's stuff gets ignored.

Probably should broaden the way you get your news.

Sorry but I don't see it. There's articles everyday roasting her.

Mac hit it on the head. Y'all just can't admit that trump is simply worse. People are jumping ship, yet for some unholy reason, trump supporters thinks that is somehow a good thing.

You know why it FEELS like Hillary skates by?

Because trump says THAT much stupid crap on a daily basis.

So don't make excuses. Own it. No conspiracies. Nobody put trump up there except CONSERVATIVE voters. I didn't vote for him in the primaries. The majority of conservatives did.

Y'all better off owning this problem instead of making excuses. Ya know, being the ideology and party of personal responsibility and accountability, or something like that.

"Ya'll" again?

http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/....P5aSGPRoQ_.jpg

Because Hillary and Johnson are stepping up to the competition, and a trump isn't.

The guy is already lying about the election being rigged, already lying about the debates being rigged, already lying about the debate schedule and a non existent NFL letter.

Trump supporters fell for trumps competitiveness.

Where is it? I ain't seeing it. Right now he sounds like a baby back.... Making excuses. Mean while the dragon lady and the independent are bringing their A game, stepping up the Arena.

Never mind who I support, but just from a campaign strategy perspective, trump is simply not cutting it.

His economic plan announcement was lackluster at best, a laughing stock at worse.

Trump is getting killed right now, and trump and his supporters can only look in the mirror for the reason why.

Being pointless again?